15:00:49 <coremodule> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
15:00:49 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 12 15:00:49 2021 UTC.
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15:00:50 <coremodule> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton tdawson puiterwijk coremodule
15:00:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton coremodule pbrobinson puiterwijk pwhalen tdawson
15:00:50 <coremodule> #topic roll call
15:01:00 * pwhalen is here
15:01:06 <coremodule> good morning/afternoon all, who's ready for IoT fun today?
15:01:12 <bcotton> .hello2
15:01:13 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
15:01:45 * pbrobinson o/
15:03:06 <coremodule> let's get started
15:03:07 <coremodule> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
15:03:07 <coremodule> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/
15:03:42 <coremodule> per bcotton's suggestion last week, I have opened a ticket for documenting the IoT lifecycle: https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/iot-docs/issue/66
15:04:13 <coremodule> perhaps I can pick pbrobinson and pwhalen's brains after the meeting about this write up a page about this?
15:04:17 <pwhalen> I started to look at the docs last week, got a little distracted but will continue again this wek
15:04:34 <bcotton> coremodule++
15:04:34 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for coremodule changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:06:23 <pwhalen> coremodule: sounds good
15:06:39 <coremodule> alright, moving on
15:06:40 <coremodule> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 34 status ====
15:06:40 <coremodule> #info Fedora-IoT-34-20210512.1
15:06:40 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?build=Fedora-IoT-34-20210512.1&distri=fedora&version=34&groupid=5
15:06:55 <coremodule> looks like most is passing in openQA for F34
15:07:13 <coremodule> just clevis is failing
15:07:34 <pwhalen> https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?build=Fedora-IoT-34-20210512.1&distri=fedora&version=34&groupid=5&groupid=1
15:07:35 <coremodule> pwhalen, do you think this is because of the old needles?
15:08:18 <pwhalen> clevis on aarch64 is failing because it gets a black screen
15:08:51 <pwhalen> Hopefully get it fixed this cycle, I set up openqa locally again to add some tests
15:09:54 <pwhalen> I was looking at the f35 issues this morning and saw this bug - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1949825
15:10:25 <pwhalen> we test that rebase in openqa, it doesnt fail there on either arch
15:11:13 <pwhalen> Not sure what went wrong, but I think we can close it
15:11:55 <coremodule> i remember seeing this bug a while back too, but could not reproduce it on hardware
15:12:12 <coremodule> i think this was brought up at the first go/no-go? or was it here?
15:12:12 <pwhalen> or ask for more info.. this came out of the test iirc
15:12:22 <pwhalen> I think here
15:12:55 <coremodule> I can ask lily for more testing with the latest image to see if she still hits it
15:13:43 <pwhalen> Sure. Anyone aware of any other issues in f34?
15:14:32 <coremodule> #info ask lnie for testing with the latest image regarding 1949825
15:15:01 <coremodule> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 35 (Rawhide) status ====
15:15:01 <coremodule> #info Fedora-IoT-35-20210508.0
15:15:01 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=35&build=Fedora-IoT-35-20210508.0&groupid=1
15:16:22 <coremodule> how about F35, any issues to report?
15:16:38 <pwhalen> coremodule: you can show both arches by adding the other group at the end - ie   https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=35&build=Fedora-IoT-35-20210508.0&groupid=1&groupid=5
15:17:07 <pwhalen> so here we had some needle issues
15:17:08 <coremodule> ahhh, cool. thank you
15:18:55 <coremodule> #info issues with old needles are causing tests on F35 in openQA to fail
15:19:28 <pwhalen> in rawhide we have a couple issues, redboot-auto-reboot.service is failing
15:19:37 <pwhalen> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959861
15:20:43 <pwhalen> and rpm-ostree overlay isnt working.. not sure if they're related.. install seems ok, then on reboot it rollsback. Still looking at that one
15:21:54 <pwhalen> also during the boot I see "[FAILED] Failed to start PARSEC-encrypted DBus secrets daemon." , but when I check the service after boot, its running
15:23:28 <pwhalen> needle issue - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959160
15:24:22 <pwhalen> the needle issue also affected generic F34 installs (not just IoT)
15:24:51 <coremodule> #info some issues are affecting F35 right now, redboot-auto-reboot.service is failing: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959861
15:25:10 <coremodule> #info there is a needles issue for F35: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959160
15:26:38 <coremodule> anything else for F35?
15:27:08 <pwhalen> that's it for me
15:27:43 <coremodule> #topic 4) ==== Open Floor ====
15:29:00 <coremodule> wondering what people think about a fun magazine article regarding Fedora IoT to get more people interested (I know bcotton, I *will* finish the astrophotography article :P)
15:29:21 <bcotton> +1 to that
15:29:30 <coremodule> like a small project-type of thing that can be done with Fedora IoT that can be documented and posted up to generate some interest
15:30:01 <coremodule> anyone have any ideas for a project?
15:30:51 <pwhalen> sounds great
15:33:16 <pwhalen> project might be the harder part..maybe whatever you're using the other pi for?
15:33:25 <pwhalen> you mentioned it had a job
15:33:28 <coremodule> well, if anyone has any great ideas that could be turned into an article, please send them my way!
15:33:57 <coremodule> ah yeah, its just controlling my NAS, but not with iot...
15:34:38 <coremodule> but that could be a good article!
15:34:53 <coremodule> anything else for the open floor, or should we adjourn for this week?
15:35:03 <bcotton> ooh
15:35:05 <pwhalen> I was also looking at rewriting or adding to our existing podman test, to have something running rootless.. but wasn't sure.. what
15:35:21 <bcotton> does someone else want to open the "please help us" ticket for the PgM team, or do you want me to?
15:36:10 <coremodule> lol, I can do that bcotton. okay to ask specifically for help tweaking/adding to/fixing the docs?
15:36:37 <bcotton> um... i suppose
15:36:38 <bcotton> :-)
15:36:49 <bcotton> i can't promise anyone on the team has that skill at this point
15:37:00 <bcotton> but at least they can do more to help than i've done in the last year :-)
15:37:21 <coremodule> maybe you should open the ticket then and custom-tailor it to the pgm team's skillset?
15:37:55 <bcotton> well it depends what the iot team wants help with :-)
15:38:11 <bcotton> i was thinking things like bug triage and keeping up with the kanban board
15:38:21 <bcotton> you know, program managementy stuff :-)
15:38:37 <coremodule> ah yes, the great iot conundrum
15:38:38 <pwhalen> I can definitely use help with bug triage.. general testing
15:38:58 <bcotton> or maybe everything is going fine and adding someone from the pgm team wouldn't be valuable
15:40:09 <bcotton> you can take a look at https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_team/#_duties and decide if that's valuable or not
15:40:40 <pwhalen> thanks
15:40:47 <bcotton> if we have someone with docs and/or testing skills they can help with that, too. or maybe someone would like to learn those
15:42:00 <coremodule> I wouldn't mind passing some docs hacking knowledge around. or at least standing by in case there are questions...
15:42:55 <coremodule> I'll open a docs ticket and see what happens. I'll offer my support should anyone become interested...
15:43:04 <bcotton> cool. it'd defintiely be good to get more of that around Fedora generally :-)
15:43:31 <bcotton> i gotta run for now, but if you want to talk about it more, i'll be in #fedora-iot or #fedora-pgm :-)
15:43:38 <bcotton> (or like....a billion other channels)
15:43:49 <coremodule> sounds good! let's end this meeting...
15:44:02 <coremodule> thanks for the attendance. see you all next week!
15:44:06 <coremodule> #endmeeting