15:00:40 #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting 15:00:40 Meeting started Wed Jul 12 15:00:40 2023 UTC. 15:00:40 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:40 The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:00:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:40 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_iot_working_group_meeting' 15:00:40 #chair pwhalen pbrobinson coremodule idiez saypaul djachimo 15:00:40 Current chairs: coremodule djachimo idiez pbrobinson pwhalen saypaul 15:00:40 #topic roll call 15:00:52 Good morning, who's here today? 15:01:31 hey pwhalen 15:01:32 * coremodule is here 15:01:37 howdy coremodule 15:02:08 * miabbott is here 15:03:38 Looks like we have a quorum! 15:03:45 #topic 1) ==== Working Group ==== 15:04:34 As I do some debugging of FDO and simplified installer on Fedora, making some notes to add to our docs 15:05:37 Anything else for admin? 15:05:45 * coremodule has nothing 15:05:54 #topic 2) ==== Fedora 38 - stable ==== 15:05:54 #info OpenQA testing - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=38&build=Fedora-IoT-38-20230711.0&groupid=1&groupid=5 15:06:44 The usual failures, likely Ok after rerunning 15:06:54 base_reboot_unmount is new? 15:08:21 Worked ok on the 7th, so if rerunning doesn't help it might need a closer look 15:08:25 I spent some time with the clevis test and got to the same point I got to the time before: I don't have any way to virtualize an aarch64 system with a TPM to make the test.. And I don't have a hardware one. I did test on x86 just to see, but it worked fine. 15:09:02 pwhalen, can you think of a way to test clevis on aarch64 w/o hardware? 15:09:40 It should work with an emulated tpm? As the x86_64 test does 15:10:42 for x86, I used virtualization to add a virtual TPM, but I don't have a system that can emulate an aarch64 system, at least not without taking several days to get anything done... 15:10:56 iirc, the emulated TPM didn't work for aarch64 when I looked 15:10:59 RPi4? 15:11:10 yeah, I'm using the rpi400 15:11:18 Or hardware in beaker 15:11:42 the rpi400 was slow with the emulated tpm? 15:12:04 never tried, but definitely some beefy hw in beaker to try 15:12:27 no, I didn't know I could emulate a tpm with hardware, I thought it was only available in virtualization... 15:13:32 coremodule: sorry, not understanding- I am talking about virt as well 15:14:29 oh, I think I see what you're saying. use the rpi4 to host a virtual aarch64 iot image and use the emulated tpm there. I can try that. Or like you said, try some of the beefy stuff in beaker. I never use beaker, so it doesn't cross my mind. 15:14:31 there's `swtpm` builds for aarch64...should work to install that and pass it to a virtual machine? 15:15:03 I can assist if needed 15:15:40 miabbott: right, I dont think we had that, or there was a bug there previously 15:15:47 Okay, let me try that way. I didn't even consider it, so let me see... I'll write a workstation image now and report in channel later today. 15:16:13 thanks! 15:16:35 Anything else for F38? 15:17:10 that's all from me 15:17:15 #topic 3) ==== Fedora 39 - Rawhide ==== 15:17:15 #info OpenQA testing - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=39&build=Fedora-IoT-39-20230711.0&groupid=1&groupid=5 15:19:39 looks similar, the rebase test has been failing for a long time, 15:21:25 Does anyone recall why the rebase test is failing? 15:22:03 https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/2012538#step/rpmostree_rebase/19 15:22:17 I don't... 15:23:02 ok, I'll try that one as I look at other stuff 15:23:31 there was an action from june 7 for coremodule to look into that failure, i believe 15:23:43 https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-06-07/fedora_iot_working_group_meeting.2023-06-07-15.00.html 15:24:17 ah! well. I definitely didn't do that! I'll add it to my list here and see what I can find. 15:24:55 thanks coremodule, I feel like I should know as well, so its bothering me and I'll try too 15:25:23 For f39 there are some changes that affect us 15:25:31 cool, I'll be in and out of the iot channel today, we can talk there if we find anything 15:25:34 #info Fedora 39 Change - EnableFwupdRefreshByDefault 15:25:34 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFwupdRefreshByDefault 15:25:34 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/issue/52 15:26:11 pbrobinson updated the iot issue, with no concerns on his end. Does anyone have anything to add? 15:26:52 We have it installed by default, so its just enabling it. Sounds good to me. 15:28:03 i agree that it is useful...given that we are an iot platform where devices have limited resources, i wonder if the size of the update metadata from LVFS would ever be a problem 15:29:25 Right, not sure either. Or how often it polls to an update 15:30:56 #info List of changes for Fedora 39 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/39/ChangeSet 15:31:11 Anything else for F39? 15:31:51 #topic 4) ==== Open Floor ==== 15:32:02 pwhalen, will you be at flock this year? 15:32:22 I might! Just trying to work out the details 15:32:26 Yourself? 15:32:50 Cool! Yes, I will be. We should get together at some point. 15:33:14 coremodule: definitely 15:34:04 Anything else for open floor? 15:34:52 #endmeeting