18:09:42 #startmeeting 18:09:42 Meeting started Fri Aug 23 18:09:42 2013 UTC. The chair is jwb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:09:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:09:47 yay 18:09:54 #meetingtopic Fedora Kernel 18:10:07 #meetingname Fedora Kernel 18:10:07 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_kernel' 18:10:12 #topic init 18:10:15 who all is here 18:10:22 * nirik is lurking around. 18:10:29 it appears zodbot is here this time 18:11:34 i'm guessing davej will show up at some opint 18:11:45 let's get rolling. release overview first 18:11:51 at some pint? 18:11:57 #topic F18 18:12:03 jforbes, possibly! 18:12:24 jforbes, wanna tell us about the awesomeness that is f18? probably f19 at the same time 18:12:26 So, F18 and F19 can really be put into one topic at this point 18:12:29 hah 18:12:31 #topic F18/F19 18:12:50 Right now, both are on 3.10.9 18:13:34 #info Currently on 3.10.9 18:13:38 We have a new issue now in pushing updates (which is better than the old issue). The last couple of updates I have pushed have received stable karma before they even got into updates-testing 18:14:36 While this is much better than never getting enough karma for the older release, this is also suboptimal. I think the solution at this point is to turn off auto karma for the initial push. Wait until it gets to updates-testing for a day, then turn on auto karma to let it push out to stable 18:15:28 yeah 18:15:32 So basically people should still be testing and giving karma as always, but we give it a day with the broader audience to make sure there is nothing big that impacts a large number of users who just don't bother to follow bodhi 18:16:22 #info Updates to be filed with auto-karma off to ensure at least one day in updates-testing 18:16:42 #info Lots of testers have shown up all of a sudden. Yay badges? 18:16:54 As a side note, I really do appreaciate those who are actively testing and giving karma. I hope the trend continues 18:16:55 could be. ;) 18:17:35 jforbes, definitely 18:18:02 I think that is all of note for 18/19 18:19:29 the biggest issue i know of there is the S/R problem on a variety of thinkpads 18:19:35 400 and 500 class 18:19:49 i think we've established that the mei mei_me drivers are crap here 18:19:57 blacklisting them "fixes" things at least 18:20:13 Right, there was talk at flock abotu disabling them all together 18:20:16 so right now i have a scratch build going with all the currently queued mei patches for people to test 18:20:36 if that fails, then yeah we might disable 18:21:16 But I don't know that it's the best option either. Fedora may not have a lot of people actively using the functionality, but I am sure there are some, and shaking out the bugs is the better thing to do 18:21:45 yeah... but i guess i'd rather point them at f20/rawhide to do the shaking instead of breaking people that don't care on stable releases 18:21:54 Very true 18:22:02 to be determined i guess. i hope the scratch build works 18:22:20 ok, moving on 18:22:27 #topic F20/Rawhide 18:22:45 #info F20 and Rawhide are kept in sync for now. both at 3.11-rc6-gitX 18:23:00 things are mostly smooth there, but that's likely lack of testers too 18:23:17 working ok here, aside a gpu hang this morning. 18:23:35 at the moment, F20 looks to be released with 3.11.y kernels. unless we slip again, just not enough time to squeeze in 3.12 18:23:43 anyone disagree at this piont? 18:23:52 why can i not type p o i n t today 18:23:58 unless there's mad slippage, yeah 18:24:14 I think it would have to be major slip considering a rebase before release 18:24:42 hopefully the rebase will be in decent shape, since 3.12 should start up within the next few weeks 18:24:52 but... requires testers ;) 18:25:05 #info F20 to be released with 3.11.y 18:25:21 anything else on these? 18:25:56 ok. wanted to briefly highlight some of the stuff we're going to focus on next month 18:26:03 #topic next month 18:26:50 jforbes and i are going to be at LPC at the end of the month. we'll be doing secure boot stuff and i plan on attending the coreOS talks too 18:27:01 mostly mingling, hallway track, etc 18:27:25 in addition to that, jforbes is going to start packaging up the kernel-tests we have to make them easier to install and run 18:27:34 reviewers welcome :) 18:27:43 huh, still no schedule published for lpc 18:27:43 Also, the kernel test suite will be packaged next month, possibly with badge integration (optional) 18:28:05 davej, the referred tracks are avaiable. uconfs aren't yet other than "these are the one's we're doign" 18:28:32 er, referreed 18:29:02 davej will be doing more trinity work as well as coverity scans 18:29:10 and holding down the fort while jforbes and i are gone 18:29:52 the intention here is to start focusing on upstream testing, bug finding, and bug fixing 18:30:07 so hopefully those bugs don't ever make it to our users, with the exception of people running rawhide 18:30:11 * jwb waves at nirik 18:30:21 :) 18:30:51 i'll be poking at secure boot stuff and diving into f20 release/blocker meetings as needed 18:31:01 and then doing bug triage stuff 18:31:22 anything i missed or any questions? 18:32:26 #info Justin and Josh at LPC 18:32:37 #info kernel test suite being packaged up 18:32:53 #info trinity and coverity scans 18:33:11 ok, we'll open floor it for a minute or two 18:33:16 #topic open floor 18:33:29 18:34:41 * nirik has nothing really. 18:34:59 nirik, threebean: if we wanted kernel specific badges, just open a ticket in trac requesting them and describing how to earn them? 18:35:12 yep. There's a process/guide on the trac instance. 18:35:21 * threebean nods 18:35:24 yes, please :) 18:35:25 ok, cool 18:35:31 they could be for something we can award based on fedmsg messages, or one-offs for one time things... 18:35:45 yeah, i have a few ideas 18:35:53 threebean: more importantly, I need to get with you next week to see how we can push test messages to the bus. 18:36:13 jforbes: sounds great. 18:36:34 there's been more of that kind of thing since badges went live. someone from qa is working on getting their stuff on the bus too. 18:36:44 nice to see 18:37:10 ok, let's close it out for the week. thanks for coming everyone 18:37:18 #endmeeting