14:09:43 <chinosoliard> #startmeeting Fedora LATAm
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14:09:52 <chinosoliard> #chair bt0
14:09:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0 chinosoliard
14:10:03 <chinosoliard> #chair x3mboy itamarjp
14:10:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0 chinosoliard itamarjp x3mboy
14:10:19 <x3mboy> .hello2
14:10:20 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
14:10:40 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja
14:10:41 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
14:10:42 <chinosoliard> wait 4 minutes for me, please
14:10:48 <chinosoliard> #topic Roll Call
14:10:53 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard
14:10:53 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <me@chinosoliard.com>
14:10:57 * chinosoliard from Argentina
14:10:58 * bt0 from Mexico
14:11:02 <bt0> ok
14:11:14 * chinosoliard is going to smoke a cigar. Waiting for a long meeting today :)
14:12:48 <alexove> .fas alexove
14:12:49 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
14:12:51 * alexove = Peru
14:13:01 * x3mboy from Chile
14:13:19 <itamarjp> .hello2
14:13:20 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
14:15:45 * chinosoliard is back
14:15:49 <chinosoliard> ok...
14:15:57 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, bt0, itamarjp, you're chairs
14:16:05 <chinosoliard> #chair alexove
14:16:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove bt0 chinosoliard itamarjp x3mboy
14:16:17 <x3mboy> Ok
14:16:18 <x3mboy> #topic Announcements
14:16:33 <x3mboy> === FLISoL is Coming! ===
14:16:52 * chinosoliard still have to move FLISoL wiki tree to /events/latam
14:16:58 <x3mboy> #link https://flisol.info/
14:17:05 <bt0> i do it
14:17:15 <bt0> i did it
14:17:32 <chinosoliard> seriously?
14:17:35 <bt0> :D
14:17:36 <bt0> yeah
14:17:53 <chinosoliard> I'm sorry, I've the compromise, but ParanaConf didn't let me time to do that :(
14:18:21 <bt0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/FLISOL
14:18:40 <x3mboy> Oh cool!
14:18:45 <x3mboy> I'm about to cry!
14:19:23 <chinosoliard> wait. bt0, you created a new or you move?
14:19:32 <bt0> move it
14:20:17 <chinosoliard> mmm, there's a lot of work to do there
14:20:21 <chinosoliard> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=flisol
14:20:37 <chinosoliard> a lot of "not indexed" FLISoL pages...
14:21:17 <chinosoliard> and, for example, FLISOL 2017 links to "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FLISOL/FLISOL2017"
14:21:43 <chinosoliard> I'll work on that. Now we need to explain people that they need to create events inside the new tree
14:21:50 <chinosoliard> ok?
14:22:01 <x3mboy> Ok
14:22:04 <bt0> ok
14:22:23 <x3mboy> Just an email, at this point we can just reject tickets if the wiki page is not in the right place
14:22:32 <chinosoliard> I'll work on that when finish updating paranaconf site
14:22:40 <chinosoliard> x3mboy++
14:22:52 <chinosoliard> let's use the mail list! we don't use it
14:23:03 * x3mboy apologizes if he sounds hard, but we gives a lot of time for adjusting to the "new" tree (It's not new anymore)
14:23:27 <bt0> so rude
14:23:32 <chinosoliard> you're right, x3mboy
14:23:46 <bt0> it's fine for me too
14:24:49 <chinosoliard> so... another announcement?
14:24:50 <x3mboy> #agreed Tickets will be rejected if wiki page is not in the new tree https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/FLISOL For Flisol https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/<country> for particular Events
14:25:13 <x3mboy> Not from me
14:25:35 <chinosoliard> example:  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/FLISOL/2018/Argentina/{cityName}
14:25:42 <chinosoliard> did you like it?
14:25:49 <x3mboy> Better!
14:25:52 <x3mboy> chinosoliard++
14:25:57 <chinosoliard> <3
14:25:58 <x3mboy> #undo
14:25:58 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by x3mboy at 14:24:50 : Tickets will be rejected if wiki page is not in the new tree https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/FLISOL For Flisol https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/<country> for particular Events
14:26:48 <x3mboy> #agreed Tickets will be rejected if wiki page is not in the new tree https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/FLISOL/{Year}/{CountryName}/{CityName} For Flisol https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/{countryName} for particular Events
14:27:07 <x3mboy> Like this ^^?
14:27:37 <chinosoliard> mmmm...
14:28:09 <chinosoliard> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/{countryName}/{eventName}/{edition} for particular Events
14:28:25 <bt0> edition??
14:28:55 <chinosoliard> bt0, let me explain
14:29:15 <x3mboy> #undo
14:29:15 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by x3mboy at 14:26:48 : Tickets will be rejected if wiki page is not in the new tree https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/FLISOL/{Year}/{CountryName}/{CityName} For Flisol https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/{countryName} for particular Events
14:29:22 <chinosoliard> for example, SASOConf, ANDSec, and maybe ParanaConf, will take place every year...
14:29:29 <chinosoliard> so... as example:
14:29:40 <x3mboy> #agreed Tickets will be rejected if wiki page is not in the new tree https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/FLISOL/{Year}/{CountryName}/{CityName} For Flisol and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/{countryName}/{eventName}/{edition} for particular Events
14:29:47 <chinosoliard> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/Argentina/ParanaConf/2018
14:29:54 <chinosoliard> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/Argentina/SASOConf/2017
14:30:06 <chinosoliard> bt0, understand?
14:30:09 <bt0> yeah
14:30:28 <chinosoliard> that's because we need to make reports, and explanations...
14:30:57 * x3mboy recommends to read https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Latam/EventOrganizationGuideLine
14:31:00 <chinosoliard> bt0, do you think that we can attach reports to a single event page and make a year division?
14:31:09 <itamarjp> I think fedora should create an small events app
14:31:37 <chinosoliard> itamarjp++... that sound awesome... but, how much time it will take?
14:32:20 * chinosoliard forgot to tell you, guys, that he made a Fedora stand at ParanaConf, but he only put some stickers, and a flyer...
14:34:33 <chinosoliard> anything else here?
14:34:48 <bt0> not from me
14:34:49 <x3mboy> itamarjp, chinosoliard that's supose to be coming with hubs
14:34:52 <x3mboy> Buuuut...
14:35:00 <x3mboy> It's taking too much time to be done
14:35:02 <chinosoliard> it's a hard work, x3mboy
14:35:34 <x3mboy> Yeah, I know
14:36:00 <x3mboy> We should move to tickets, right?
14:36:23 <x3mboy> Can we start with #406?
14:38:12 <bt0> it's ok for me
14:39:15 <chinosoliard> ok
14:39:37 <x3mboy> #topic Tickets
14:40:01 <x3mboy> #info #406 Swag for Latam
14:40:17 <x3mboy> AFAIK this Swag is done, waiting for shipping
14:40:36 <x3mboy> But now, that we have the FLISoL around, I'm not sure how will proceed
14:40:56 <x3mboy> I remember I gave some guidance on how I think it should work, but I'm not sure
14:41:43 <chinosoliard> so... what's the actual status?
14:41:58 <chinosoliard> approved? can we... I don't know... close it?
14:42:32 <bt0> no
14:42:39 <chinosoliard> until...?
14:43:07 <chinosoliard> new tag: "waiting" (?)
14:43:15 <bt0> maybe
14:43:18 <chinosoliard> hahaha
14:43:31 <chinosoliard> welcome, freddy_
14:45:06 * chinosoliard is with electricity problems
14:45:19 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, are you there?
14:45:31 <x3mboy> Yes
14:45:35 <chinosoliard> ok...
14:45:46 <chinosoliard> do you have something to add to that ticket?
14:45:53 <chinosoliard> or we can move on?
14:45:55 <x3mboy> The status is: Swag is done, we should start shipping
14:46:25 <x3mboy> But we supose to do a massive shipping to a "representative" in each country, and be delivered by country?
14:46:32 <x3mboy> Or just get shipped per event
14:46:35 <chinosoliard> #info Issue 406 - Swag for LATAm = Status: Swag is done, we should start shipping
14:46:40 <bexelbie> ship per event is fine :)
14:46:51 <bt0> awesome
14:46:53 <bexelbie> just give me notice and the informatoin for who it goes too
14:46:53 <chinosoliard> But we supose to do a massive shipping to a "representative" in each country, and be delivered by country? <- +1 for this
14:47:00 <bexelbie> then if we see problems we can do a big shipment if needed
14:47:40 <bexelbie> I feel like shipping to each country may just recreate the shipping problems of the past
14:47:44 <bexelbie> why warehouse things twice
14:47:50 <bexelbie> also that requires good guessing about needs
14:47:51 <chinosoliard> mmm, ok
14:48:01 <bexelbie> but I am open to what works best for you all
14:48:03 <bexelbie> not making a requirement
14:48:13 <x3mboy> I prefer that you ship directly per event
14:48:18 <x3mboy> If not too many work for you
14:48:30 <chinosoliard> I'm so sure that I (only representative in .ar) don't need SWAG yet...
14:48:31 <x3mboy> To don't have the warehouse problem
14:48:42 <x3mboy> I will need some for FLISoL
14:48:48 <x3mboy> But not too much
14:48:50 <bt0> me too
14:48:55 <itamarjp> shipping per event won't arrive on time, unless you ship with alot of time in advance.
14:48:56 <x3mboy> Probably villadalmine will need more
14:49:19 <chinosoliard> but my doubt is: how much time will take the shipment? because, If I get invited to an event, I don't know, next month, I'm totally sure that shipment is not going to arrive before
14:49:22 <bexelbie> itamarjp, then lets have good planning
14:49:45 <x3mboy> Also, there are special cases like Brazil, where shipping is so long and expensive that warehouse will be preferred
14:49:49 <bexelbie> let's figure out what shipping times are like before hand.  I would expect not postal service (i.e. Fedex, etc.) to arrive in less than a month
14:49:54 <bexelbie> but sure
14:49:54 <itamarjp> I asked for Brazil and Paraguay together, if chinosoliard attends latinoware you can add argentina in same shippment.
14:50:19 <x3mboy> Because today is 6, FLISoL is on 28, will we have time to get shipped on time?
14:50:26 <chinosoliard> here in .ar, I've been waiting for a package from China for at least 3 month... And a friend of mine have waited more than 7 month (I've photos of that)
14:51:00 <bexelbie> x3mboy, I can ship as soon as I know how much and to where (name, full address, phone number)
14:51:14 <bexelbie> chinosoliard, by postal service or by courier service?
14:51:25 <bexelbie> mail service from China is slow everywhere
14:51:31 <x3mboy> I will create mine  today
14:51:31 <bexelbie> DHL/Fedex/UPS not so much
14:51:42 <chinosoliard> ohh, I just don't know, it was my first time
14:52:15 <chinosoliard> bexelbie, the problem was in .ar, china package arrive on time, but import rules here sucks!
14:52:26 <bexelbie> this group needs to decide how swag shipping is approved.  i.e. I am not going to decide if someone has a legitimate need for swag.  So you all approve it (informally, beause of event ticket, whatever) and then assign to me with the information I need please
14:52:30 <bexelbie> chinosoliard, ahh
14:52:46 <bexelbie> As I said in the production ticket - we need to do the first shipments as soon as possible
14:52:56 * bexelbie is waiting on the pens to arrive, but everything else should be in
14:53:04 <bexelbie> and they should be here probably monday
14:53:17 <bexelbie> they  went slow slow slow for reasons unrelated to anyone on this chat or RH
14:53:46 <chinosoliard> it's ok, bexelbie
14:53:47 <x3mboy> Ok, so action
14:54:07 <x3mboy> #action request FLISoL Swag ASAP to get it delivered
14:54:43 <x3mboy> #info needs for the shipping are: full name, full address, phone number, email
14:54:43 <chinosoliard> excelent
14:54:44 <bexelbie> let's be more specific pleaes
14:54:46 <bexelbie> yes
14:54:50 <bexelbie> and what they need
14:55:00 <x3mboy> #info needs for the shipping are: full name, full address, phone number, email, Swag requested
14:55:01 <bexelbie> #info and exactly what and how many items you need
14:55:05 <bexelbie> #undo
14:55:17 <bt0> #undo
14:55:17 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by bexelbie at 14:55:01 : and exactly what and how many items you need
14:55:27 <bexelbie> bt0, thank you
14:55:32 <bt0> ;)
14:55:47 <itamarjp> bexelbie, I already added these info on the google docs, about quantities it's up to you,
14:55:51 <x3mboy> Ok, that's all I have
14:55:54 <bexelbie> itamarjp, no it isn't
14:56:04 <bexelbie> I will not make a decision about quantity for this region
14:56:14 <bexelbie> you all need to know what you want where
14:56:22 <bexelbie> because once something ships it is probably "gone forever"
14:56:35 <bexelbie> so if you warehouse swag in Country X and it is later needed in Country Y - that may not be easy or possible
14:56:37 <x3mboy> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_latam
14:57:10 <x3mboy> That is a little old, but it's a good guidance
14:57:51 <x3mboy> Ok, so something else to discuss?
14:58:08 <chinosoliard> yes
14:58:11 <chinosoliard> your ticket
14:58:18 <chinosoliard> and a lot of other tickets
14:58:21 <chinosoliard> *issues
14:58:24 <x3mboy> Sorry? What?
14:58:34 <chinosoliard> and one ticket I've posted today earlier
14:58:40 <x3mboy> I have no ticket with meeting tag (I edit one just before starting)
14:58:41 <itamarjp> bexelbie, lets start with these quantities, https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/438
14:58:53 <chinosoliard> Sessions to improve ambassador skills
14:58:53 <chinosoliard> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/423
14:59:38 <chinosoliard> F27 schedule 27 ambassador team tasks : https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/428 <- That shouldn't be a pagure issue, I think
15:01:10 <chinosoliard> guys... noon is comming here... I don't have problem to stay online for more time, but... can we move on or something?
15:01:22 <bexelbie> itamarjp, can you update that with the other required shipping informatoin, and then if LATAM is good, I'll ship it
15:01:26 <x3mboy> Oh! it depends on too many things, and now I don't have the time to plan this anymore
15:01:31 <bexelbie> I am going to assume that assignment to me means ship it
15:02:58 <bt0> sounds easy, many thanks bex :)
15:03:25 <bexelbie> bt0, that is the goal :)
15:03:35 <chinosoliard> <bexelbie> I am going to assume that assignment to me means ship it <- Excelent
15:04:31 <x3mboy> Ok, let's just do a quick pass on voting tickets, and I will close the #423 (or keep it in pause)
15:04:49 <chinosoliard> ok
15:05:16 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issues?status=Open&tags=Meeting
15:05:21 <chinosoliard> keep it in pause, lets crean NOW because with flisol comming, issues will increase!
15:05:36 <x3mboy> +1
15:06:16 <chinosoliard> <chinosoliard> F27 schedule 27 ambassador team tasks : https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/428 <- That shouldn't be a pagure issue, I think
15:06:39 <x3mboy> Not for latam at least, that's a global schedule
15:07:05 <chinosoliard> (was)
15:07:28 <x3mboy> Also that, but we shouldn't have this ticket each release, IMHO
15:07:30 <chinosoliard> but, It should be posted in mail-list, not in pagure...
15:07:39 <x3mboy> +1
15:07:49 <chinosoliard> ok... I'll close it. Should I?
15:07:50 <bt0> +1
15:08:13 <chinosoliard> done!
15:08:35 <chinosoliard> itamarjp,
15:08:41 <chinosoliard> #431 usb stickers for IFTM SNCT ITUIUTABA 2017
15:08:45 <chinosoliard> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/431
15:08:48 <chinosoliard> what about it?
15:09:18 <itamarjp> I did it, I will close the ticket
15:09:26 <chinosoliard> I do it
15:09:37 <chinosoliard> but wait
15:09:44 <chinosoliard> did you get the reimbursement?
15:10:03 <itamarjp> at the end I don't used the usb
15:10:04 <chinosoliard> itamarjp?
15:10:12 <chinosoliard> ok
15:10:18 <chinosoliard> closed as closed
15:10:40 <chinosoliard> x3mboy,
15:10:44 <chinosoliard> Countries Landing Pages
15:10:47 <chinosoliard> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/437
15:11:04 <chinosoliard> x3mboy
15:11:05 <chinosoliard> 3 months ago
15:11:05 <chinosoliard> Please remember to create the pages from your countries. This ticket can be closed, but at the moment only 5 countries have created their pages.
15:11:10 <x3mboy> Well, people don't want to create their country page and I'm not going to do the work for everybody
15:11:16 <x3mboy> I just tell them last meeting
15:11:21 <chinosoliard> people are inactive...
15:11:34 <chinosoliard> I'll close that, but...
15:11:42 <x3mboy> So, my next move will be to sent an email, and then close the ticekt and erase countries without landing page
15:11:48 <chinosoliard> #action chinosoliard will send mail asking people to create country landing pages
15:12:25 <chinosoliard> itamarjp,
15:12:26 <chinosoliard> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/438
15:12:30 <chinosoliard> #438 Swag for Brazil / Paraguay.
15:12:39 <x3mboy> People will appear next week, now that FLISoL is coming
15:13:05 <chinosoliard> ¬¬
15:13:09 <chinosoliard> nice people... nice
15:13:13 <x3mboy> You know how it is
15:13:27 <chinosoliard> let's remember how we are working since last July...
15:13:56 <chinosoliard> *let's remember they [...]
15:14:25 <chinosoliard> itamarjp, what about it: #438 Swag for Brazil / Paraguay.
15:14:32 <chinosoliard> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/438
15:16:04 <x3mboy> Sorry, I really, really need to run
15:16:22 <itamarjp> chinosoliard, waiting for shipment
15:16:28 <x3mboy> I will vote on current tickets (FLISoL tickets) on Pagure itself
15:16:41 <bt0> +1 for that
15:16:45 <x3mboy> And +1 to this Brazil Swag ticket
15:16:46 <x3mboy> :D
15:17:01 <chinosoliard> #info FLISoL Tickets MUST be voted and discussed on pagure (to move on quickly)
15:17:11 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, when you have some time, please ping me on telegram
15:17:35 <chinosoliard> ok. I'll do it tomorrow
15:17:41 <chinosoliard> I've to go too...
15:17:51 <bt0> ok
15:17:54 <chinosoliard> should I close the meeting?
15:17:59 <bt0> please
15:18:03 <bt0> +1 for close
15:18:04 <chinosoliard> (we don't have quorum)
15:18:08 <chinosoliard> ok
15:18:11 <chinosoliard> closing meeting
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15:18:28 <chinosoliard> #endmeeting