14:02:18 <chinosoliard> #startmeeting Fedora LATAM 14:02:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Apr 13 14:02:18 2018 UTC. The chair is chinosoliard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:18 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:02:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam' 14:03:10 <chinosoliard> ping yn1v[m] x3mboy potty bt0 freddy__ itamarjp 14:03:16 <chinosoliard> #topic RollCall 14:03:19 <x3mboy> .hello2 14:03:20 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard 14:03:22 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com> 14:03:25 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <me@chinosoliard.com> 14:03:26 * chinosoliard from Argentina 14:03:34 * x3mboy from Chile 14:03:36 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, o/ 14:06:15 <chinosoliard_> #chair x3mboy alexove yosef7 bee2502 14:06:17 <chinosoliard_> #undo 14:06:19 <chinosoliard_> #chair x3mboy alexove yosef7 bt0 14:06:41 <x3mboy> #unchair bee2502 14:06:46 <x3mboy> No? 14:06:47 <x3mboy> Ok 14:07:01 <bt0_> .fas bt0dotninja 14:07:02 <zodbot> bt0_: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com> 14:07:11 <yosef7> .fas josereyesjdi 14:07:11 <zodbot> yosef7: josereyesjdi 'Jose A. Reyes H.' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com> 14:07:11 * bt0_ from Mexico 14:08:20 <chinosoliard_> #chair x3mboy 14:08:26 <chinosoliard_> me leen? 14:08:29 <x3mboy> Sip 14:08:31 <x3mboy> Claro y fuerte 14:08:31 <bt0_> si 14:08:35 <chinosoliard_> miercoles... 14:08:41 <x3mboy> No, viernes 14:08:42 <bt0_> yo no más claro 14:08:58 <yosef7> yeap 14:09:00 <alexove> .fas alexove 14:09:01 <chinosoliard> #chair x3mboy bt0_ alexove yosef7 14:09:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove bt0_ chinosoliard x3mboy yosef7 14:09:01 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com> 14:09:13 * alexove = Peru 14:09:13 <chinosoliard> I'm sorry, guys... 14:09:27 <x3mboy> No problem, let's just jump in 14:09:38 <chinosoliard> ok 14:10:00 <chinosoliard> #topic Announcements 14:10:16 <chinosoliard> anyone have an announce? 14:10:47 * chinosoliard is accessing pagure 14:11:09 <chinosoliard> mmmm 14:11:28 <chinosoliard> why there are a lot of approved issues? :-/ 14:11:37 <x3mboy> Why not? 14:11:43 <x3mboy> We call "Voting on tickets" 14:11:47 <bt0_> maybe, today is kernel test day 14:11:51 <x3mboy> So, after 3 votes, tickets were approved 14:12:02 <chinosoliard> ohh, I'm sorry... It pass a week since last meeting 14:12:27 <chinosoliard> ok... 14:12:41 <chinosoliard> My ticket is still asking for a vote, ha 14:13:10 <x3mboy> I voted it 14:13:12 <bt0_> the bus and accommodation ticket, right? 14:13:25 <yosef7> number del ticket? 14:13:25 <x3mboy> But you have an unforgivable mistake 14:13:35 <chinosoliard> yes... but I think I will get free acommodation 14:13:43 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, I didn't make the event wiki page! I know! 14:13:59 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, I know you know 14:14:01 <x3mboy> ;) 14:14:13 <bt0_> :D 14:14:29 <chinosoliard> I'm without office, table, and chair in my work... Also I don't have internet access (I'm using my mobile right now) 14:14:46 <chinosoliard> so... I'm really really AFK and very busy 14:15:01 <x3mboy> Shit happens 14:15:22 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, is that? the event wiki page? 14:15:23 <bt0_> if you need delegate some things count with me 14:15:27 <x3mboy> Yes 14:15:35 * chinosoliard still have to move FLISoL pages under the new tree 14:16:02 <chinosoliard> The main problem right now is that I'm still "moving" my work to another building... 14:16:08 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, history is history, focus on present, I mean, do your 2018 FLISoL page 14:16:25 <x3mboy> Since your time is limited, just do what need to be done 14:16:31 <chinosoliard> I'll do that this night, if beers appears :) 14:16:47 <x3mboy> .moar beer chinosoliard 14:16:47 <zodbot> here chinosoliard, have some more beer 14:16:59 <x3mboy> :D 14:17:02 <chinosoliard> ohh! I didn't know that! 14:17:31 <yosef7> :) 14:18:16 <chinosoliard> #action chinosoliard will create FLISoL page and will move FLISoL pages under the new tree in at least 3 days 14:18:28 <chinosoliard> ok... let's move on? 14:18:42 <x3mboy> Oh hell! With deadline included! That's the right attitude 14:19:14 <chinosoliard> If not, probably I don't do it... It's a compromise 14:19:36 <x3mboy> Cool 14:19:39 <x3mboy> Let's move on 14:19:53 <bt0_> ok 14:20:23 <chinosoliard> ok... what we have to do right now? 14:20:26 <chinosoliard> #chair wmoreno 14:20:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove bt0_ chinosoliard wmoreno x3mboy yosef7 14:20:37 <wmoreno> .fas 14:20:37 <zodbot> wmoreno: (fas <query>) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match. 14:20:41 <chinosoliard> let's go with... 14:20:44 <wmoreno> .fas williamjmorenor 14:20:44 <zodbot> wmoreno: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com> 14:20:45 <chinosoliard> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/455 14:20:50 <chinosoliard> Fedora Release Lima Party 2018 14:20:55 <chinosoliard> #topic Fedora Release Lima Party 2018 14:21:02 <chinosoliard> #chair itamar__ 14:21:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove bt0_ chinosoliard itamar__ wmoreno x3mboy yosef7 14:21:17 <x3mboy> I want to raise my hand on an old issue that looks like will never ends 14:21:39 <x3mboy> But to open floor 14:21:57 <x3mboy> We should discuss the 4 tickets that are with the meeting tag 14:22:03 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issues?status=Open&tags=Meeting 14:22:52 <chinosoliard> x3mboy: "#449 Latam Budget for FY19 Q1" have 3 month... I'll skip that 14:23:09 <chinosoliard> I'll skip, if you want, mine (#451) 14:23:37 <x3mboy> You already have the 3 +1's 14:23:40 <chinosoliard> now, let's see yulitas' issue... agree? 14:23:52 <x3mboy> You just need to do your wiki page to have it Approved 14:23:54 <x3mboy> And yes 14:24:00 <x3mboy> That was my old/new issue 14:24:28 <x3mboy> richzendy and tatica want to us to discuss their ticket 14:24:29 <chinosoliard> x3mboy> You just need to do your wiki page to have it Approved <- This afternoon If times helps me :) 14:24:38 <x3mboy> Can we do a quick review 14:24:59 <chinosoliard> may I change the topic? 14:25:17 <x3mboy> Nop, but please don't forget to tale that 14:25:32 <chinosoliard> ! 14:25:36 <x3mboy> take* 14:25:50 <chinosoliard> can we see quickly yulitas' issue, and then jump to San Cristobal? 14:26:01 <x3mboy> Sure! 14:26:06 <chinosoliard> ok 14:26:45 <chinosoliard> yulitas is a very nice contributor, but she **never** follow the rules... maybe she is harried, and that is her problem 14:27:18 <x3mboy> For me her problem is that she don't introduce the people to the community, she "mentor them" but she is not a mentor 14:27:22 * chinosoliard is asking why everybody is connecting and disconnecting constantly... 14:27:45 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, that one is another point, true 14:27:53 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, eveyone is on mobile, maybe 14:28:02 <chinosoliard> I really don't know who they are, except Martin, he's a genius 14:28:09 <bt0_> sorry Let me change To my Pc 14:28:26 <chinosoliard> My conclusion: 14:28:37 <wmoreno> I do think she have not taken a moment to read the wiki with the info about events, tickets, payments etc, etc, etc 14:28:48 <chinosoliard> yulitas didn't create the wiki page in the correct place 14:29:07 <x3mboy> ! 14:29:17 <chinosoliard> yulitas is asking, again, for t-shirts, and that's an old community problem. T-Shirt for representatives are paid by representatives 14:29:45 <wmoreno> there is a comment about t-shirts in the ticket 14:29:50 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, go ahead (I still have another point, but I forget) 14:30:29 <x3mboy> I'm really going to do a -1 14:30:41 <x3mboy> You can read the ML: 14:31:05 <x3mboy> 1. The point was raised in a thread that had absolutely no relation to this topic 14:31:16 <x3mboy> 2. She was call to write me, instead she keep ranting 14:31:35 <x3mboy> 3. She take advices like personal attacks 14:31:59 <x3mboy> 4. She is saying I do a lot of things for fedore without fedora money, again 14:32:21 <x3mboy> I'm really upset about this 14:32:28 <wmoreno> because she do not care about our procces and rules and insist that we should do the things like Gnome community does 14:32:29 <x3mboy> I will give -1 to this 14:33:05 <wmoreno> I am +1 to snacks and even ballons (because are not expensive) but -1 to t-shirts 14:33:14 <chinosoliard> I didn't read the ML :-( 14:33:35 <wmoreno> And for me is a issue to have prices in soles, we use USD Dollars to keep track of budget 14:33:51 <chinosoliard> I'm agree with wmoreno, t-shirts--- ... I'll see ML right now 14:33:58 <itamarjp> I am with wmoreno 14:34:34 <x3mboy> wmoreno, yes, if you just read the ticket, no problem, but because of her responses in the ML, I will give a -1 14:35:06 <tatica> o/ 14:35:14 <x3mboy> tatica, o/ 14:35:21 <wmoreno> I see the ml tread and here now that she think we are aganist her activities 14:35:37 <chinosoliard> #chair tatica 14:35:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove bt0_ chinosoliard itamar__ tatica wmoreno x3mboy yosef7 14:35:58 <wmoreno> So with itamarjp and chinosoliard votes the ticket is aproved for snacks and ballons 14:36:34 <chinosoliard> I'm confused... x3mboy, wmoreno... ML == Mail List? 14:36:47 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, NO! 14:36:47 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, yes 14:37:11 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, she is NOT following the rules... she needs to fix before getting approved 14:37:36 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, +1 I'm not ok on approving this 14:37:47 <x3mboy> Like I said, I'm strongly -1 to this ticket 14:37:53 <x3mboy> For reasons I already gave 14:38:29 <chinosoliard> I think we should ask her to fix the presentation 14:38:37 <wmoreno> chinosoliard this is the mailing list topic we are talking about 14:38:41 <wmoreno> chinosoliard https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/embajadores-fedora-latam@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/UNRTVN5ON7YBPWPMP2LPIE7CV6XD4XOQ/ 14:38:43 * chinosoliard is still lookin in ML 14:38:57 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, thanks! I was looking for that 14:39:08 <wmoreno> the issue is the wiki page in wrong format? 14:39:31 <chinosoliard> Ohh, shit, I accidentally deleted that thread (just a few minutes ago) 14:40:28 <wmoreno> because is a reminder 14:40:41 <wmoreno> a delete reminder to clean my inbox 14:41:25 <chinosoliard> give me a few minutes, please... I'm reading 14:41:30 <wmoreno> so I think we can record some info and move away 14:42:34 <wmoreno> dradt : #info itamarjp chinosoliard wmoreno are OK with snacks and ballons in this ticket but Latam do NOT provide t-shirts to contributors. 14:43:17 <bt0> add me in +1 ballons -1 for tshirts 14:43:37 <yosef7> wmoreno: ok 14:43:44 <x3mboy> Im still -1 for this ticket 14:43:46 <x3mboy> Let's move 14:43:50 <chinosoliard> ! 14:44:14 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, did he attacks you? 14:44:19 <chinosoliard> I'm really confused 14:44:22 <x3mboy> No 14:44:32 <chinosoliard> yulitas is having problems since 2 years ago... 14:44:33 <x3mboy> I'm just upset about his attitude towards us 14:44:44 <chinosoliard> with a great part of the LATAM community 14:44:59 <x3mboy> We take a lot of time to try to make things works better and she don't want to take a minute to read the studd 14:45:08 <wmoreno> #info itamarjp chinosoliard wmoreno and bt0 are OK with snacks and ballons in this ticket but Latam do NOT provide t-shirts to contributors. 14:45:10 <chinosoliard> it's not the first time that she feel that we're ignoring her work 14:45:22 <wmoreno> #info x3mboy is -1 to this ticket 14:45:36 <wmoreno> can we move to next ticket? 14:45:37 <x3mboy> tatica_ and richzendy, are new parents, have a lot of problems of Venezuela, and they keep their ticket with the rules 14:45:43 <x3mboy> Yes, let's move 14:46:01 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, I will be -1 if she don't fix the presentation (issue, wiki page) 14:46:14 <wmoreno> ticket #465 14:46:15 <chinosoliard> ** Move on ** 14:46:22 <chinosoliard> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/456 14:46:32 <chinosoliard> #topic #456 FLISoL San Cristóbal 2018 - Venezuela 14:47:19 <wmoreno> el ticket esta en español y eso no tiene porque ser un problema 14:47:21 <wmoreno> +1 14:47:31 <x3mboy> tatica says: +21 seconds of lag, so please sorry 14:47:32 <itamarjp> +1 14:47:33 <x3mboy> +1 14:47:39 <yosef7> +1 14:47:46 <x3mboy> She is on telegram with me, also, any question, please feel free to ask 14:47:46 <bt0> +1 14:48:35 <x3mboy> Tatica says: I love you all 14:48:36 <chinosoliard> +1 14:49:17 <wmoreno> #info Ticket 456 aproved +1 (6) 14:49:26 <chinosoliard> richzendy and tatica are doing a great job, considering the country situation. 14:49:38 <chinosoliard> tatica++ 14:49:38 <zodbot> chinosoliard: Karma for tatica changed to 2 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:49:40 <chinosoliard> richzendy++ 14:49:40 <zodbot> chinosoliard: Karma for richzendy changed to 1 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:50:15 <yosef7> :) 14:50:52 <chinosoliard> anyone have something to add? 14:51:15 <wmoreno> les move 14:51:16 <bt0> not from me 14:51:25 <chinosoliard> openfloor? 14:51:42 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, will you change tags on tickets? 14:51:55 <wmoreno> i will 14:52:03 <x3mboy> Open the floor 14:52:11 <chinosoliard> yulitas' issue: 14:52:18 <chinosoliard> #topic Open Floor 14:52:20 <chinosoliard> yulitas' issue: 14:52:46 <wmoreno> ? 14:52:48 <chinosoliard> #action add a comment asking for **fix** (wiki page, and delete t-shirts) 14:53:32 <chinosoliard> we don't have a tag on pagure to specify when an issue must be fixed 14:53:59 <x3mboy> Nope, we need to comment on the ticket and pray for the email to be read 14:54:13 <chinosoliard> approved, closed, discuss, "fixed" < should we delete this?, meeting and reimburs... 14:54:47 <chinosoliard> we never use fixed, but we can use (a lot) a "fix" tag... In my ticket, for example 14:54:53 <chinosoliard> and yulitas ticket, too 14:55:11 <chinosoliard> for example, right now: 14:55:25 <chinosoliard> delete "meeting" tag from mine and yulitas, and add "fix" tag 14:55:51 <chinosoliard> after me (and yulitas) fix the ticket, add "meeting" again (or discuss, or whatever) 14:55:56 <chinosoliard> it's ok? 14:56:02 <wmoreno> ok 14:56:21 <chinosoliard> I'll change "fixed" to "fix" 14:56:32 <yosef7> good 14:56:36 <x3mboy> Good 14:56:39 <x3mboy> ! 14:56:39 <x3mboy> ! 14:56:40 <x3mboy> ! 14:56:49 <x3mboy> Very new and exciting news! 14:56:59 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, go ahead 14:57:10 <x3mboy> #info === Flock 2018 was announced!!! === 14:57:16 <x3mboy> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/flock-2018-venue-announcement/ 14:57:24 <x3mboy> It will be in Germany 14:57:40 <yosef7> ohhh 14:57:56 <x3mboy> Since we have no FUDCon, we were very encourage by the Council to try to attend Flock 14:58:23 <x3mboy> But the attendee need to have a goal by going to Flock 14:58:36 <x3mboy> And the idea is to bring the new and fresh work to the region 14:58:40 <wmoreno> if the council will allocate founds to send people from latam to flock is ok 14:59:10 <x3mboy> wmoreno, they will, but like I said, the posture is: We can send people from latam, but they need to have a goal by attending 14:59:20 <wmoreno> tomar tanta cerveza alemana como tu higado te permita podria ser un gol aceptable? 14:59:36 <x3mboy> No creo 14:59:38 <x3mboy> :D 14:59:44 <x3mboy> bexelbie, are you here? 14:59:45 <yosef7> Tomas selfies con todos tambien vale? 14:59:57 <bexelbie> x3mboy, yes 15:00:26 <x3mboy> Can you tell us what is the official stand from the council about sending people from latam to Flock? 15:00:31 <wmoreno> bexelbie thanks for the work to ship the swag 15:00:48 <x3mboy> s/stand/position 15:01:06 <bexelbie> people from around the entire world are encouraged to attend flock. Limited funding is available to help cover the costs of attendance. It is not geographically restricted. 15:01:57 <wmoreno> and what do you spec for a latam contributor in flock? 15:02:24 <wmoreno> I mean the goals to send people from latam to flock? 15:02:46 * chinosoliard is going smoke 15:03:11 <wmoreno> chinosoliard should stop smoking 15:03:45 <bt0> well, not all the contributors on latam are only ambassadors 15:03:50 <x3mboy> We run out of time 15:04:09 <x3mboy> ran* 15:04:13 <chinosoliard> ok 15:04:16 <chinosoliard> let's finish 15:04:29 <chinosoliard> anyone have something to add or should I close the meeting? 15:04:32 <wmoreno> is there is nothing more finish him 15:04:43 <x3mboy> Finish him 15:04:51 <chinosoliard> 5... 15:04:52 <chinosoliard> 4.. 15:04:55 <chinosoliard> 3......... 15:04:56 <chinosoliard> 2... 15:04:56 * x3mboy remember the Mortal Kombat music 15:05:00 <chinosoliard> 1. 15:05:06 <chinosoliard> #closemeeting 15:05:11 <chinosoliard> #endmeeting