22:25:39 <echevemaster> #startmeeting
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22:25:54 <echevemaster> #meetingname Fedora Latam Ambassadors meeting
22:25:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors_meeting'
22:26:09 <echevemaster> #topic Roll Call
22:26:47 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
22:26:48 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
22:26:53 * echevemaster Venezuela
22:27:25 <kovalevsky> .fas sophiekovalvesky
22:27:28 <zodbot> kovalevsky: 'sophiekovalvesky' Not Found!
22:27:39 <kovalevsky> .fas sophiekovalevsky
22:27:39 <zodbot> kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky '' <kiarakovalevsky@gmail.com>
22:28:08 <kovalevsky> argg
22:28:12 <kovalevsky> .fas kovalevsky
22:28:13 <zodbot> kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky '' <kiarakovalevsky@gmail.com>
22:28:20 <kovalevsky> anyways
22:28:27 <kovalevsky> Kiara Navarro, Panamá.
22:28:33 <echevemaster> it happens :)
22:29:01 <ramilton> .fas ramilton
22:29:02 <zodbot> ramilton: ramilton 'Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior' <ramiltoncosta@gmail.com>
22:32:44 <echevemaster> awaiting by more people
22:34:00 <alexove> Hello all
22:34:30 <kovalevsky> Hello there
22:36:13 <echevemaster> hi, we need more people at the meeting.
22:36:33 <echevemaster> so, we will await few minutes
22:36:36 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor
22:36:38 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
22:36:43 <williamjmorenor> Nicaragua
22:39:10 <BernardoHa> holas
22:39:13 <Richzendy> .fas Richzendy
22:39:15 <zodbot> Richzendy: richzendy 'Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto' <richzendy@gmail.com>
22:39:25 * Richzendy Venezuela
22:39:43 <BernardoHa> .fas bernardoha
22:39:45 <zodbot> BernardoHa: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' <bernardoha@gmail.com>
22:39:59 <echevemaster> ok
22:40:16 <echevemaster> #topic Announcements
22:41:55 <echevemaster> Fedora Board is now Fedora next Governance and will be represented by rings of all the the working comitees
22:42:10 <mribeirodantas> .fas mribeirodantas
22:42:11 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' <ribeirodantasdm@gmail.com>
22:42:15 * mribeirodantas Brazil
22:42:21 <echevemaster> You can view further details about this in http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-update-part-iii-governance-progress-and-more/
22:43:41 <echevemaster> so we must to have people in those groups..
22:44:02 <echevemaster> Any question?
22:44:23 <Richzendy> let me see the url
22:44:23 <mribeirodantas> I do, even though I haven't read from the beginning.
22:44:31 <mribeirodantas> Why is it a must that we need to have members in such groups?
22:44:54 <echevemaster> it is a should if you want... :)
22:45:11 <mribeirodantas> I mean, we are not that numerous to be in every representative group in Fedora. And I think it'd be better to have people in localization/ambassadors than in something like a committee
22:45:22 <mribeirodantas> echevemaster: :P haha
22:45:23 <echevemaster> I refer to take represents in the working comitees like famsco...
22:45:36 <williamjmorenor> :)
22:45:43 <mribeirodantas> Yeah, I think it is important. But not as much as contributing in localization, marketing and so on.
22:45:59 <echevemaster> that is another thing..
22:46:06 <Richzendy> so much to read :-/
22:46:20 <williamjmorenor> +1 with Richzendy :(
22:46:20 <echevemaster> its about a explanation about the new Fedora governance...
22:46:58 <echevemaster> I will to try to make a post in spanish for explain better the new structure :)
22:47:15 <mribeirodantas> cool :-
22:47:17 <mribeirodantas> :-)
22:47:19 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, I need to read the article.
22:47:24 <williamjmorenor> there is people from latam in famsco a fedora board, there is someone in fesco?
22:47:35 <misc> the new proposed structure, so far, nothing was decided
22:47:59 <echevemaster> due to that now we are many products, also we are now new structures based on working rings
22:48:02 <misc> ( since not everybody was at flock, it wouldn't be fair to not let people voice their position and to change the proposal )
22:48:13 <echevemaster> yeah proposed misc :)
22:48:38 <echevemaster> you are right :)
22:49:01 <alexove> .fas alexove
22:49:02 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
22:49:05 <echevemaster> williamjmorenor, no, not there any latam people in FESCO yet.
22:49:22 <echevemaster> ok..
22:49:39 <williamjmorenor> :-/
22:49:45 <echevemaster> #topic New proposed way to register the events in the wiki.
22:49:49 <mribeirodantas> We have people in the Fedora Board and FAmSCo.
22:50:03 <williamjmorenor> yes we
22:50:06 <echevemaster> correct mribeirodantas neville is one of them :)
22:50:24 <mribeirodantas> both of them. He's both in FAmSCo and in teh Board :P
22:50:36 <echevemaster> was discussed in Flock a new way to register the events and those will be retrieved by fedocal
22:50:55 <williamjmorenor> echevemaster what is that about events?
22:51:00 <echevemaster> this is in "progress"
22:51:28 <echevemaster> williamjmorenor, I don't understand.
22:52:37 <echevemaster> by example, you make the wiki event page  and the result table was be retrieved by fedocal
22:52:48 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, I think that williamjmorenor refer about what kind of events need to be considered to register.
22:52:51 <williamjmorenor> echevemaster dont, worry I was asking about current topic, what is going to change
22:53:17 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, what do you mean with the "result table"
22:53:17 <kovalevsky> ?
22:53:26 <echevemaster> that brings to a small problem we have right now
22:53:46 <echevemaster> we are not registering the events properly...
22:54:00 <echevemaster> kovalevsky, la tabla del evento y el budget
22:54:42 <echevemaster> who use this template
22:54:44 <echevemaster> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Event_Wiki_Template?
22:54:51 <echevemaster> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Event_Wiki_Template
22:55:30 <williamjmorenor> I thought it would be the other way around, fedocal first and then to the wiki: - /
22:55:58 <echevemaster> It is right, we register the event, the budget and all the respective things..
22:55:59 <echevemaster> but we are not following the process of put the reports at the main events table..
22:56:08 <echevemaster> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#Central_.26_South_America_.28LATAM.29
22:56:29 <echevemaster> so we have to be more careful with this.
22:57:17 <echevemaster> Well, you can give your opinion when infra start with the work. williamjmorenor :)
22:57:46 <echevemaster> so, please use the event wiki template for all the events..
22:57:58 <echevemaster> and register that in the main table of the events.
22:58:20 <echevemaster> As you can see many events does not have reports in it
22:58:42 <williamjmorenor> ok, just think than can be better to create the event in fedocal, and then a script update the wiki, something like the Ambassador Membership wiki
22:59:03 <ramilton> echevemaster, e as wiki que já foram criadas. Vai ter que refazer?
22:59:10 <echevemaster> nothing ramilton
22:59:23 <ramilton> ok
22:59:23 <echevemaster> that will be for new events..
22:59:46 <echevemaster> we have to be "more" standard with the rest of the regional communities
22:59:56 <kovalevsky> williamjmorenor, I think that the idea that propose williamjmorenor it's a good one.
23:00:15 <williamjmorenor> thanks kovalevsky
23:01:22 <echevemaster> kovalevsky, miro honrock will talk with infra about it. I think that we can give feedback, in the github wiki of fedocal
23:01:41 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, ok.
23:01:45 <echevemaster> so, if you want, click in the "issues" link and give your brainstorming
23:01:47 <echevemaster> :)
23:02:00 <echevemaster> another thing...
23:02:09 <echevemaster> Neville is just one person...
23:02:19 <echevemaster> and have many many work..
23:02:31 <echevemaster> so...
23:02:33 <echevemaster> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget
23:03:21 <echevemaster> if you will allocated with budget for your event, please put the amount allocated here
23:03:26 <echevemaster> was*
23:03:40 <echevemaster> we need to have this table updated...
23:04:12 <williamjmorenor> ok
23:04:18 <echevemaster> Is thing that all of us need to work for have everything in order.
23:04:21 <alexove> !
23:04:26 <echevemaster> alexove, go ahead
23:04:51 <alexove> Al respecto, se podria desarrollar alguna web que nos ayude a registrar nuestros eventos y llenar los presupuestos
23:05:13 <echevemaster> alexove, no, for that is the wiki.
23:05:16 <alexove> porque para mi hacer una pagina de wiki es trabajoso y de pronto se me algun detalle
23:05:28 <alexove> se me va algun detalle
23:05:41 <echevemaster> we have to practice :)
23:05:56 <alexove> alguna webapp que tambien pueda crear las paginas de wiki o algo
23:06:05 <Richzendy> echevemaster, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget why 2014 don't have almost any?
23:06:05 <echevemaster> because that i said, we have to be careful and minus lazy.
23:06:24 <alexove> eof
23:06:51 <echevemaster> Richzendy, I dont undestand.
23:07:01 <Richzendy> alexove, you can use libreoffice, that app have a addon to convert to wiki format
23:07:43 <kovalevsky> alexove, the wiki page use Markdown, so I think that the best way to fill up the events are, use a Markdown editor and see the live preview and then copy the Markdown text to the wiki, in that way you maybe don't gonna miss anything, almost :D
23:08:29 <echevemaster> exactly. Godd point Richzendy :)
23:08:32 <alexove> Mi idea es hacer algo que haga todo eso y sea más automatico y que ayude no busco parches al problema
23:08:39 <echevemaster> kovalevsky, sorry
23:08:47 <echevemaster> Richzendy, because not there almost events in this quarter
23:08:52 <alexove> de todos modos continuen con la conversacion :-)
23:09:02 <echevemaster> alexove, no problem man..
23:09:09 <bernardoha_> good data to create a wiki.
23:09:42 <echevemaster> so we are doing a great work with the events... but we are not putting that in the wiki
23:09:49 <echevemaster> another thing..
23:10:11 <echevemaster> would be great for each event, make a review in fedora magazine..
23:10:27 <echevemaster> so, the owner events can do the work.
23:10:54 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, awesome
23:11:05 <williamjmorenor> I am not sure about how to contibute to Fedora Magazine
23:11:17 <williamjmorenor> I need to be in marketing team?
23:11:36 <kovalevsky> that's a good question.
23:11:49 <echevemaster> yes but, you can send your ideas at the articles ideas.
23:12:02 * randomuser interjects
23:12:16 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt
23:12:17 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com>
23:12:23 <echevemaster> chair aeperezt
23:12:40 <echevemaster> #chair aeperezt
23:12:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster
23:12:42 <randomuser> you can submit your article and maybe even log in with FAS or create an account for fedoramagazine's wordpress instance - someone with appropriate permissions will do a review and publish
23:13:05 <randomuser> there was a flock talk you can watch on youtube that covers things in detail, or #fedora-marketing
23:13:05 <williamjmorenor> do you mean this http://fedoramagazine.org/submit-an-idea-or-tip/
23:13:23 <echevemaster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/submit-an-idea-or-tip/
23:13:37 <randomuser> or, you can just submit a tip if you don't want to write the article yourself (less ideal)
23:13:56 <williamjmorenor> randomuser ok
23:13:58 <echevemaster> randomuser, thanks for the further explanation :)
23:14:06 <randomuser> np
23:14:08 <williamjmorenor> thanks
23:14:46 <echevemaster> so, there are not change in our way of work like ambassadors
23:14:47 <randomuser> SOP has been to post on marketing@ to ask for proofreading and publishing but IRC will do as well
23:15:14 <echevemaster> is about improve our work at the events and their marketing..
23:15:39 <echevemaster> any question, folks?
23:16:50 <williamjmorenor> not
23:16:54 <williamjmorenor> i will try
23:17:13 <williamjmorenor> to make a post in magazine :)
23:17:18 <echevemaster> So -
23:17:18 <echevemaster> 1. Use the wiki template
23:17:35 <echevemaster> #undo
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23:17:42 <echevemaster> 1. Use the wiki event template
23:17:55 <echevemaster> 2.- Put your event in the event main table
23:18:13 <echevemaster> 3.- Put your allocated budget in the proper table.
23:18:40 <echevemaster> 4.- if is possible the event owner could make an article an Fedora Magazine...
23:19:30 <echevemaster> Also, it is possible in the future have articles in Fedora magazine in other languages, but we need a dedicated group
23:19:33 <echevemaster> and stable group.
23:19:58 <echevemaster> #topic open floor
23:20:58 * lbazan here
23:21:00 <lbazan> .fas lbazan
23:21:01 <zodbot> lbazan: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' <bazanluis20@gmail.com>
23:21:02 * lbazan Panama
23:21:14 <echevemaster> we can finish the meeting?
23:21:37 <ramilton> sim
23:21:40 <kovalevsky> For me no problem, if the others want.
23:21:42 <lbazan> :o
23:21:52 <echevemaster> lbazan, ;)
23:21:59 <echevemaster> #endmeeting