21:00:29 <rbergeron> #startmeeting Fedora marketing
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21:00:36 <rbergeron> #meetingname Fedora Marketing
21:00:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing'
21:00:43 <rbergeron> #topic Roll Call!
21:03:28 * Southern_Gentlem 
21:03:37 <rbergeron> hey there, southern_gentlem ;)
21:04:06 * rbergeron will hold it open a few minutes.
21:04:16 * stickster lurks
21:05:02 * rbergeron pokes stickster with a stick
21:05:04 <rbergeron> ;)
21:05:27 <Southern_Gentlem> i just want to bring up one thing cause i have to run
21:06:17 <rbergeron> southern_gentlem: go for it.
21:06:17 <Southern_Gentlem> during the Marketing FAD it was brought up to have ambassadors ask questions at the booth
21:06:39 <Southern_Gentlem> is there a list of question anywhere
21:07:00 * jsmith lurks
21:07:00 <rbergeron> wait, to have ambassadors ask questions of... people who come to the booth?
21:07:04 * rbergeron tries to get out her memory from march
21:07:07 <Southern_Gentlem> and is there a set of quesitons for f14 and are any planned for f15
21:07:08 <jsmith> Sorry folks... tied up in a phone call :-(
21:07:23 <Southern_Gentlem> rbergeron,  yep
21:07:54 <Southern_Gentlem> like one of them was what one word can you use to describe Fedora
21:07:55 <rbergeron> southern_gentlem: I don't think we did anything to that effect. I will have to dig around in archives to see.
21:08:10 <rbergeron> southern_gentlem: ahhhhhh.
21:08:29 <Southern_Gentlem> you remeber that now dont you
21:08:40 <rbergeron> I think we were talking about doing that in the context of maybe having... post-it notes available, or something like that?
21:08:48 <Southern_Gentlem> yep
21:08:57 * rbergeron recalls that we tried to do that in the rht raleigh elevator, and just had our paper stolen.
21:09:21 <rbergeron> :)
21:09:40 <Southern_Gentlem> exactly
21:09:41 <rbergeron> What do you thin kwould be the best way to pass that information off to ambassadors?
21:09:55 <rbergeron> If you're going to an event, let us know and we'll send you post-it notes and a list of questions we'd like answers to?
21:10:09 <rbergeron> Since a lot of ambassadors don't always have the event box?
21:10:17 <rbergeron> or.... is there some other way that is easier?
21:10:34 <Southern_Gentlem> wiki page with notes to famsco
21:10:56 <rbergeron> hmm. okay
21:11:13 <Southern_Gentlem> dont have to be postit note just a list of answers would work
21:11:23 <Southern_Gentlem> from the ambassadors
21:11:25 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to craft some thoughts on "how to gather information from event attendees through ambassadors" relating to discussions we had at Marketing fad last march
21:11:37 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to pass along to FAmSCo when she figures it out
21:12:18 <Southern_Gentlem> and at the shows i did this year i completely forgot about it untill last night
21:12:36 <rbergeron> ahhh.
21:12:50 <rbergeron> Southern_Gentlem: I'll see what we can come up with.
21:13:05 <rbergeron> I think we may have made some good questions at the Marketing FAD, and just didn't get them all passed along to ambassadors.
21:13:12 <rbergeron> Or a process for dealing with it.
21:13:19 <Southern_Gentlem> exactly
21:13:40 <Southern_Gentlem> get it to the grunts on the front lines
21:13:48 <rbergeron> lol
21:13:52 <rbergeron> cool. well thank you :)
21:14:29 <rbergeron> #topic F15 Marketing Schedule
21:15:13 <rbergeron> I just wanted to pass this along:
21:15:17 <rbergeron> #link http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-marketing-tasks.html
21:15:29 <rbergeron> Now, I realize this might sound funny since I'm officially doing the schedule now.
21:15:40 <rbergeron> But, I'm looking for feedback from people in marketing other than myself on things like:
21:15:47 <rbergeron> (a) does this schedule make sense
21:16:07 <rbergeron> (b) are there any activities that we are doing that we want to adjust on the schedule, or even not do anymore
21:16:21 <rbergeron> (c) are there new things we want to do that aren't here at all?
21:16:43 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to send a mail to the mailing list regarding schedule and if it looks kosher for marketing.
21:16:44 <stickster> rbergeron: One suggestion... for things like Line 13, it might be helpful to break that into actual tasks, i.e. "Do such-and-such," as opposed to a task name that doesn't say what the action is
21:17:16 <rbergeron> stickster: yeah, line 13 is kind of ugly.
21:17:22 <rbergeron> I don't remember it being that ugly, truth be told ;)
21:17:25 <stickster> heh
21:17:29 * rbergeron goes back and looks at old schedules
21:17:47 <stickster> We have an SOP so breaking it up may not be too difficult -- should I drop a line to the list to kick that off?
21:17:56 <rbergeron> and also, things like... getting rid of the slogan selection.
21:18:03 <rbergeron> stickster: that would be excellent.
21:18:40 <stickster> #action stickster Kick off discussion on how to break up Line 13 on marketing schedule into definitive tasks
21:18:57 <jsmith> I'd like to see some more detail on Feature profiles
21:19:07 <jsmith> Instead of just having one line item, break it up into
21:19:22 <jsmith> o  make plan for Feature profiles (number of profiles, topics)
21:19:26 <rbergeron> stickster: I think that you / jared could be particularly helpful there as far as synchronizing with Kara, if feature profile owners are going to continue owning the crafting of the blogs that go out on the red hat press blog.
21:19:27 <jsmith> o  set feature profile schedule
21:19:43 <jsmith> o  plan feature profile format (blogs / videos)
21:19:52 <jsmith> o  Feature Profile 1 due
21:19:54 <jsmith> o  Feature Profile 2 due
21:19:56 <jsmith> o  Feature Profile 3 due
21:19:59 * rbergeron notes that we really only wind up having as many feature profiles as we have volunteers, more or less
21:20:16 * stickster copies jsmith's words into email and kills two birds with one stone :-)
21:20:26 <jsmith> Awesome :-)
21:20:44 <rbergeron> and i mean as far as detailing that synchronization with kara
21:20:56 <jsmith> On line 25, I'd like to make sure we're all clear on what that means
21:20:59 <rbergeron> ie: "talk to kara on X date about $featureprofilethings"
21:21:16 <jsmith> because there was a lot of confusion with regards to who was doing the screen shots, etc.
21:21:26 <rbergeron> so line 24/25?
21:21:40 <rbergeron> #info need more clarification around items 24 and 25 on schedule
21:21:59 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to seek out volunteer on list to work out the screenshots process, ownership, etc.
21:22:04 <jsmith> Correct
21:22:27 <rbergeron> I think line 26 has always been somewhat mysterious to me.
21:23:04 <rbergeron> "brief news distribution network" <--- stickster, mether, any idea where that's from or what it relates to?
21:23:34 * rbergeron wonders if anyone else has seen the marketing evolve over more than a few cycles
21:23:46 <mether> I think i suggested a app
21:23:55 <mether> that submits fedora news to different linux news sites
21:23:56 <stickster> rbergeron: That's something that wonderer typically wants to work on each cycle (among other people) -- getting Fedora material out to community news outlets
21:24:19 <mether> we do this manually now
21:24:37 <stickster> mether: An app sounds like a great idea, who's going to write it?
21:24:42 <rbergeron> and what is the manual process? some people just send things out, or translate it, etc?
21:24:57 <mether> stickster, students come for projects all the time
21:25:02 <mether> shouldn't take much time
21:25:08 <mether> i will try to find someone
21:25:10 <stickster> rbergeron: Combination of translation where needed, and then sending to regional community news outlets for release
21:25:37 <stickster> mether: Sounds like the beginnings of a plan, should rbergeron write you in to manage that project then?
21:25:39 <rbergeron> mether: since you had some thoughts, would you mind writing a note to the list with some thoughts in general?
21:25:44 * rbergeron and stickster battle over mether
21:25:49 <rbergeron> lol
21:25:52 <stickster> rbergeron: +1, good enough for me
21:26:06 <mether> i will drop a mail later
21:26:12 <rbergeron> mether: awesome. thanks!
21:27:46 <rbergeron> #action mether to write to list about "brief news distribution network" item on marketing schedule, ideas for app, possible student contribution.
21:28:05 <rbergeron> any other immediate schedule feedback? I will concatenate these notes into the mail I send out.
21:29:13 * rbergeron looks around
21:29:20 <rbergeron> okay.
21:29:32 <rbergeron> #topic Need to cycle Marketing wiki for F15.
21:30:23 <rbergeron> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
21:30:32 <rbergeron> Sooo - there are a few things we need to do here.
21:30:56 <rbergeron> The first one being that we need to cycle the main page deliverables, which... well, it looks like someone awesome has done that, or the template did it for us, one of the two.
21:31:22 <rbergeron> perhaps the wiki did it for us, it looks like.
21:31:24 <rbergeron> in any case:
21:31:57 <rbergeron> each of the pieces in deliverables needs to have (a) their page created, and (b) content / basic template dropped in.
21:32:08 <rbergeron> I think it would be awesome if we could actually have an SOP around doing this, as well.
21:32:48 * rbergeron wonders if anyone is interested in helping out, or maybe taking a wiki page or two and then contributing to the SOP about those one or two wiki pages and how they updated them / refreshed them for the cycle.
21:33:25 <jsmith> I can help out, if I know enough about what I'm doing to be useful
21:33:37 * rbergeron grins
21:34:11 <rbergeron> so what i would do is this:
21:34:21 <rbergeron> #info Thoughts on refreshing a wiki page:
21:34:46 <rbergeron> #info (1) Go to the wiki page linked in F15 deliverables, and click to "create this page" when you go to it.
21:35:09 <rbergeron> #info (2) Look at one of the early revisions of the F14 version of that deliverable and see how it was set up for a template.
21:35:29 <rbergeron> #info (3) Copy that over to a yet-to-be-determined-or-named SOP page.
21:35:48 <rbergeron> jsmith: Would it help if I set out some ideas in email, and set up an SOP page with places to basically dump in template text
21:35:51 <rbergeron> ?
21:36:28 <jsmith> rbergeron: Absolutely!
21:36:30 <rbergeron> okay.
21:36:46 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to set up a fillable SOP page for cycling marketing wiki.
21:37:04 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to lay out some steps so that poeple can grab wiki pages as they see fit to help update them for f15 and SOP them at the same time.
21:37:54 <rbergeron> Any other thoughts?
21:38:43 <rbergeron> #topic Any other business?
21:38:56 * rbergeron holds the floor open for any other impending awesome things going on.
21:43:45 * rbergeron will close out in a minute if there's nothing more :)
21:44:28 * stickster has zippo
21:44:42 <pingou> how can one use : https://admin.fedoraproject.org/zarafa/ ?
21:45:21 <rbergeron> pingou: I think most of the details are at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zarafa
21:45:28 <rbergeron> though I haven't actually tried it myself.
21:46:07 <rbergeron> oh, maybe the details aren't there.
21:46:20 <pingou> rbergeron: i am more like, I can log in this instance using my fas credential, but there is no email since my @fp.o is an alias
21:46:22 <rbergeron> pingou: the best place to ask is probably in #fedora-admin.
21:46:40 <pingou> oups
21:46:42 <pingou> indeed
21:46:48 <pingou> mixted up my tab
21:46:51 <rbergeron> :)
21:47:06 <rbergeron> alrighty.
21:47:10 * rbergeron is going to end it ;)
21:47:16 <rbergeron> Thanks for coming, all!
21:47:18 <rbergeron> #endmeeting