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20:01:00 <suehle> #meetingname Fedora marketing team
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20:01:04 <suehle> #topic roll call
20:01:55 * zoglesby is here
20:02:17 <AnnaE> AnnaE is here
20:02:34 * graphite6 is here
20:03:02 * jbrooks is here
20:03:23 * suehle is looking for the email about getting the video interviews started, and I can't find it. Anyone have the subject line for easier hunting?
20:03:43 * rbergeron looks in as well
20:03:49 <graphite6> is that the anniversary email?
20:03:52 * suehle waves to all
20:04:01 <suehle> graphite6, I don't think so, but I could be wrong...
20:04:04 <rbergeron> all wave back to suehle!
20:04:59 <suehle> graphite6, you're right!
20:05:06 <suehle> Is niteshnarayanlal here or away?
20:05:19 <niteshnarayanlal> yeap here o/
20:05:34 <suehle> #topic Contributor video interviews
20:05:55 <suehle> We're behind on the schedule we'd originally talked about for this, but it was an excessively ambitious schedule anyway :D It's still an awesome idea
20:06:00 <suehle> Thanks for getting the wiki plan started, niteshnarayanlal
20:06:06 <suehle> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Niteshnarayan/ContributorsInterviews
20:06:10 <niteshnarayanlal> :)
20:06:36 <suehle> We should probably also start a list of people we want to interview. I bet we can get quite a few done at FUDcon.
20:06:55 <graphite6> niteshnarayanlal: that looks awesome
20:07:10 <niteshnarayanlal> thanks to suehle she had made some modifications
20:07:11 <niteshnarayanlal> :)
20:07:30 <graphite6> suehle: I feel like back in Oct someone sent out an email with a list of potential interviewees
20:07:53 <suehle> Maybe the next step is to start face-blog-tweeting about it to see if we can get some volunteers/nominations for interview victims.
20:08:02 <suehle> graphite6, that does sound familiar. Do you think you could dig it up?
20:08:24 <mizmo> i could help with the intro/outro stuff
20:08:27 <graphite6> suehle: yeah, let me see what I can find....
20:08:39 <mizmo> is anyone slated to do the video editing work?
20:08:50 <niteshnarayanlal> suehle, we are planning for a one way interview
20:08:51 <suehle> mizmo, we haven't talked to the video team yet, which we definitely should
20:09:02 <mizmo> suehle, the RH video team?
20:09:04 <niteshnarayanlal> I mean only one person sharing his/her experience
20:09:15 <suehle> mizmo, isn't there a Fedora video team? or did I invent that?
20:09:21 <niteshnarayanlal> I guess Mola can help
20:09:27 <niteshnarayanlal> in video editing
20:09:31 <mizmo> suehle, hehe i think you invented it :)
20:09:31 <suehle> I mean, I can do some of it, but I'd rather not do all of it. :)
20:09:41 <suehle> Really? I SWEAR there were at least a few people doing video stuff.
20:09:43 <mizmo> yeh im in the same boat, i could do a couple but i can't do 'em all
20:09:54 <graphite6> suehle: I have lighting, HD camera and microphones I can bring
20:09:57 <suehle> Well, if there are enough of us who can do a few, we'll get it together.
20:09:57 <mizmo> Mola is really good with Blender, i dont know what apps he uses for video editing
20:10:02 <suehle> graphite6, that would be sweet
20:10:07 <mizmo> yeh
20:10:09 <rbergeron> victims? ;)
20:10:12 <suehle> #action graphite6 to bring some video setup equipment to FUDcon
20:10:26 <graphite6> oh, and a black and white backdrop
20:10:53 * suehle just added a section to that page for editing volunteers
20:10:54 <niteshnarayanlal> we also need to prepare a set of questions about which we will talk during the interview
20:11:03 <graphite6> but I can't promise to post-process anything or it might never get done
20:11:27 <mizmo> niteshnarayanlal, we have some questions we asked folks for the interviews on fedoraproject.org - would they be a good starting point?
20:11:43 <niteshnarayanlal> wont it be better to give the person some hint about the questions which will be asked to him
20:11:54 <niteshnarayanlal> so that we get a perfect video without much trials :P
20:11:57 <suehle> the questions can also vary somewhat by person so it doesn't get too repetitive
20:12:11 <suehle> mizmo, I think those probably are a good start
20:12:27 <suehle> mizmo, can you add the link to those to the interviews wiki page?
20:12:33 <nirik> so, these are all going to be video? (just to clarify)
20:12:40 <mizmo> sure
20:13:36 <suehle> nirik, that was the idea. The original original idea was one per week for a year leading up to the 10th anniversary. That was the overly ambitious part. :) But we could maybe also incorporate text ones. Transcripts of the video ones at leas.t
20:14:13 <nirik> ok. As a consumer, I'm much more likely to read a text interview than watch a video, but thats likely just me. ;) Both would probibly be good.
20:15:14 <suehle> nirik, I'm like you, but a lot of people are into video. Short videos, I promise. :)
20:15:15 <mizmo> do you folks have an idea what type of camera you'll be using? e.g. will the video be widescreen or old school ratio?
20:15:17 * mizmo wondering for the titles
20:15:38 <suehle> mizmo, I think that's way further than planning has happened. Basically what you see on niteshnarayanlal's page is where we are.
20:15:59 <mizmo> ah okay
20:16:33 <mizmo> i can't make it to fudcon but i have an hd pocket size video camera i could send with ryan
20:16:34 <graphite6> My camera is 16:9 HD, looking up precise specs now...
20:16:49 <suehle> I have a couple of camera options, so I could go either way.
20:17:19 <niteshnarayanlal> in bw I was wondering do we have one channel which can be said as official fedora video channel on youtube
20:17:26 <niteshnarayanlal> where we can post these videos
20:17:29 <mizmo> well, ill do the title design in inkscape in either case; it should be easy enough to change it up for whatever ratio the video ends up on
20:17:33 <niteshnarayanlal> I am not very sure about hat
20:17:52 <suehle> #info mizmo will do the title design
20:18:30 <niteshnarayanlal> https://www.youtube.com/user/fedoraproject
20:18:30 <suehle> There is a Fedora Project YouTube account. I don't know who owns it.
20:18:34 <niteshnarayanlal> is this the one
20:18:41 <suehle> It hasn't been used in a long, long time
20:18:56 <niteshnarayanlal> I was asking because I had quite a few videos which must be put up there
20:19:34 <niteshnarayanlal> and  I was also thinking to add task related to that in GCI
20:19:42 <mizmo> country: australia
20:19:43 <mizmo> hm
20:19:50 <niteshnarayanlal> so that we can have a good collection of video if there is one such channel exists
20:20:03 <suehle> I'll send the YouTube person a message and see if we can be friends. :)
20:20:20 <niteshnarayanlal> awesome that will be great I guess
20:20:39 <mizmo> i wonder if its joshua wulf who set it up
20:20:51 <niteshnarayanlal> we can send a mail on the ml
20:20:59 <niteshnarayanlal> asking if someone owns it or not
20:21:11 <suehle> mizmo, is he likely to be around on IRC to ask?
20:21:35 <mizmo> suehle, not atm, it's probably 3 am ish there, but i can ask ryan who knows him and might have other ideas on which fedora aussie might have set it up
20:21:42 <suehle> mizmo, k thx
20:21:54 <zoglesby> there is a username of 'dejaiin' on the about but that is not a match to anything in fas
20:22:30 <suehle> ah ha:  I am a keen user of Fedora but I am in no way associated with the project. My account name is dejaiin. I just thought I would grab the name before any Microsoft supporter did.
20:22:48 <suehle> So I'll go ahead and email him and ask if we can have it (even better, if he wants to participate)
20:23:04 <niteshnarayanlal> yeap
20:23:33 <rbergeron> That's kind of him
20:23:38 <niteshnarayanlal> +1
20:23:46 <niteshnarayanlal> for the email
20:24:51 <graphite6> mizmo: my camera (Canon vixia) max resolution in full HD is 1920 x 1080 - just for info regarding the title/intro design
20:25:11 <mizmo> graphite6, ooh okay great :)
20:25:38 <suehle> And it doesn't appear to be taken on Vimeo, so we should be good there .
20:26:40 <suehle> We might even try to find a corner during FUDcon where we can just set up and say, "Interested in being interviewed? Come by here between x time and y time."
20:26:53 <graphite6> suehle: +1
20:27:08 <mizmo> that worked really well with the usability testing in toronto
20:27:22 <mizmo> we just had a room that was the usability testing room and folks dropped by whenever
20:27:27 <niteshnarayanlal> :P
20:27:47 <graphite6> I'll just bring all my equipment (and all my hard drives) and people can just record all weekend long :D
20:28:34 <suehle> sounds like a plan
20:28:48 <graphite6> it can not be used to record contributors doing the Fedora Gangham style though :D
20:29:13 <suehle> Oh my.
20:29:26 <ryanlerch> "Beefy Miracle style"
20:29:26 <graphite6> or here's my number, call me maybe baby...unless I'm bought lots of beer
20:29:53 <suehle> OK, that gets us closer on that. Woo! Let's talk about FWN.
20:30:00 <suehle> #topic Insight and Fedora Weekly News
20:30:06 <graphite6> Spherical Cow, Maybe, Baby
20:30:13 <suehle> Everybody read that three-way (sorry about that) thread?
20:30:38 <graphite6> suehle: I just skimmed it real quick
20:30:45 <suehle> Quick summary if not: Insight would become more blog-y, web-magazine-y, and FWN would become the weekly email update from what was there.
20:31:09 <suehle> There was a strong recommendation from Those Who Did This Before to scrap the Drupal that Insight currently is and find ~$100 to throw at hosted WordPress.
20:31:34 <suehle> rbergeron, opinion on throwing around that $100? :)
20:32:06 <graphite6> I can't weigh in on WP vs Drupal, never used either
20:32:22 <mizmo> i think dreamhost would be cheaper than $100, you would have more options than WP too
20:32:27 <suehle> Currently using both, I can't argue with a preference for WP. Drupal is powerful, but it's a beast.
20:32:42 <suehle> mizmo, also not a bad idea
20:32:49 <niteshnarayanlal> just a suggestion we can't  we integrate the usual articles with some small cartoon or joke kind of thing at the end  of magazine related to the contributors
20:32:52 <jbrooks> And openshift is free
20:32:58 <mizmo> oh it's $108 for dreamhost
20:33:01 <zoglesby> mizmo: I agree, I am worried about the lack of options on hosted wordpress
20:33:03 * niteshnarayanlal thinks he went slightly off the topic :P
20:33:10 <mizmo> although you can always get dh deals
20:33:18 <mizmo> jbrooks, how would storage work with openshift
20:33:25 <suehle> $108/year still seems pretty trivial to me
20:33:28 <rbergeron> um
20:33:35 <rbergeron> we just spent 100 collective dollars thinking aobut it.
20:33:35 <rbergeron> yes.
20:33:41 <suehle> lol
20:33:42 <rbergeron> spend 108 dollars. ;)
20:33:48 <jbrooks> mizmo, there's a certain amount included, I don't know off hand
20:33:49 <graphite6> I build my website off github - also free, but I'm using a custom system that's not terribly user friendly at the moment
20:34:04 <suehle> rbergeron, that also is my inclination about the somewhat related question of a HootSuite Pro account.
20:34:17 <mizmo> jbrooks, i think it's like 2 GB, but im wondering if red hat would work out a deal with us for more
20:34:23 <rbergeron> suehle: did you ask jnalley about his thoughts on that?
20:34:29 <jbrooks> mizmo, I imagine so
20:34:31 <mizmo> openshift would be nice... dh runs on debian
20:34:41 <suehle> rbergeron, not specifically I don't think, but I'll see whether he was in a thread about it.
20:34:49 <rbergeron> we have discussed it before - a lot of things come back to "it's not open source" and etc
20:35:06 <rbergeron> suehle: he was the one who set it up that way to begin with (on HS) iirc
20:35:21 <suehle> rbergeron, he is on the thread
20:35:44 <suehle> nobody's really objected this time around on the basis that getting the message out is more important, not to mention the fact that we're already posting to non-open things like FB and Twitter
20:35:49 <rbergeron> yeah
20:36:09 <suehle> He also commented on the wiki page, and "zomg no" wasn't one of the comments :D
20:36:19 <mizmo> (fwiw talking to mmccgrath about extra storage possibilities on openshift)
20:36:37 * rbergeron doesn't see jnalley in the channel
20:36:50 <suehle> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_social_networks
20:37:22 <graphite6> I agree with suehle at the moment regarding HS- we can just keep our eyes open for developing open source options to HS as time goes on
20:37:26 <suehle> Sorry, this coversation just veered sideways. But I think the social media stuff is related to Insight and FWN anyway.
20:38:03 * nirik had a social media suggestion if we are on to that section of the meeting...
20:38:09 <suehle> nirik, let it out :)
20:38:10 <mizmo> fwiw mmcgrath says today they could give us up to 30gb for wordpress on openshift if needed
20:38:30 <suehle> mizmo, with one of us needing to maintain it I presume?
20:39:00 <mizmo> suehle, i think it would be pretty minimal maintenance, let me double check
20:39:15 <suehle> yeah, I don't think it needs watering and feeding daily or anything
20:39:36 <nirik> so, the thought was that social media is for communicating with end users... but... perhaps we could look at a second set of things for more contributors/developers. ie, "Fedora Project" on G+ is end user stuff, but "Fedora Project Development" or "Fedora Project Contributors" is another page with a stream of news/posts more for that audience.
20:40:06 <rbergeron> we could also just use AWS / cloudformations
20:40:24 <suehle> nirik, agreed. graphite6 I believe had made that point, and I'd made a mental note about maybe having sm channels for contributor announcements
20:40:56 * nirik doesn't care on wordpress, except that it should be an env anyone can use and keeps up with security updates for us at least. ;)
20:41:00 * suehle doesn't feel too strongly about where it lives. I just want to do it. And it's pretty trivial to move later if we change our minds.
20:41:15 <graphite6> nirik: +1 - I'd like to see a social channel with contributor stuff b/c I don't use rss feeds or check the planet on a daily basis
20:41:34 <mizmo> so the wordpress updates would be manual, through the app, but you get a repo to work with to deploy it so that part isn't hard, and wp should be even easier to maintain on there in the future
20:42:17 * jbrooks runs his blog on wp on openshift
20:42:20 <mizmo> i can tell you from using dh, that you can do the dh full hosted wp, but you have your choice of maybe 5 crappy themes and very few plugins. you have to do the manual one to get the customizability, but its really not much work, the wordpress admin panel handles the updates automagically for the most part
20:42:21 <niteshnarayanlal> +1 doing those thing on wordpress is a lot  easier I guess
20:42:32 <mizmo> jbrooks, how do you keep it updated, you use the admin panel in the webui primarily?
20:43:14 <jbrooks> mizmo, I download the update locally and push to openshift with git
20:43:34 <mizmo> jbrooks, is it a lot of work? frequent?
20:43:35 <zoglesby> The issue with aws or dreamhost is that someone has to maintain the server, if we use hosted wordpress we don't have to do anything, and openshift is the middle ground in this with some work but not as much as a full on server
20:43:40 <graphite6> didn't Openshift do a wordpress on Openshift tutorial/video at one point?
20:43:46 * rbergeron wonders if we can pass fas credentials beyond login/pw to openshift (like, groups)
20:43:48 <jbrooks> It's really easy
20:43:52 <mizmo> zoglesby, dreamhost has a fully hosted version where you don't need to maintain the server at all
20:44:00 <mizmo> you're thinking of their vm service, that's different than what we're looking at
20:44:13 <suehle> passing fas would be sweet
20:44:16 <mizmo> graphite6, they did
20:44:20 <zoglesby> mizmo: good to know!
20:45:04 <nirik> rbergeron: we have a script to sync fas groups ssh keys to openshift. ;)
20:45:10 <nirik> happy to share that if anyone wants it.
20:45:40 <mizmo> ooh
20:45:51 <mizmo> so dealing with folks connecting to it shouldn't be too hard
20:45:52 <nirik> not having to manually update would be a plus in my opinion tho.
20:45:53 <mizmo> ?
20:46:07 <graphite6> hooray for syncing scripts!!!
20:46:15 <nirik> well, for ssh keys to push to the git repo.
20:46:20 <rbergeron> yeah, i just didn't want it to be like, "maintain yet another set of outside passwords"
20:46:29 <nirik> I'd guess it uses it's local db for login/pass to wordpress itself?
20:46:32 <rbergeron> if we just had sponsors / groups that works best
20:46:37 <mizmo> nirik, when i last used open shift it was only one user per repo :)
20:47:00 <niteshnarayanlal> I am off for the day , I will catch up with the logs  needs to go for a exam in the morning
20:47:02 <mizmo> yeh the wp would use a local db unfortunately
20:47:03 <niteshnarayanlal> thanks all
20:47:06 <nirik> you can add as many ssh keys as you like. ;)
20:47:14 <graphite6> niteshnarayanlal: goodnight :)
20:47:18 <nirik> so, yeah, the user is the same, but people can access it with their own key
20:47:26 <mizmo> oh wp might support openid login
20:47:40 <nirik> true. it can with a plugin
20:47:50 <jbrooks> There's a wp openid plugin, looks out of date though: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/openid/
20:47:56 <mizmo> so then folks could use their fas openid maybe
20:47:56 <suehle> mizmo, I'm pretty sure it will
20:48:51 * rbergeron drags us out of the rathole of implementation
20:48:55 * graphite6 recently nuked her openid + fas credentials and seems to be crap out of luck using the FudCon app at the moment
20:49:11 <rbergeron> "wordpress somewhere, and next steps?" :D
20:49:29 <nirik> it works here on my home wordpress. ;)
20:49:51 <nirik> anyhow, yes... perhaps summary list of wordpress options on list and decision there?
20:49:53 <graphite6> aggregating news from different sources...suehle fill in the plank
20:50:05 <suehle> rbergeron, I thought I had wikied this, but I'll paste:
20:50:09 <graphite6> plank/blank :p
20:50:10 <suehle> - Short, informative content like you might think of FWN for
20:50:10 <suehle> - Longer form stories, interviews, and articles
20:50:10 <suehle> - The technical content that Fedora used to create to some extent for Red Hat Magazine (which is in high demand but no longer exists)
20:50:11 <suehle> - Cultivated content from Planet
20:50:11 <suehle> - The content that Insight was already meant for, like Board meeting minutes or announcements
20:50:29 <suehle> Fedora Weekly News would then become the weekly email newsletter of highlights from what had been published on Insight that week.
20:50:41 <suehle> suehle, jbrooks, and iambryan have volunteered as editors
20:50:49 <graphite6> awesome!
20:51:46 <graphite6> maybe try and find a victim from each group (ex: cloud group, java group...) to do some writing/feature updating once in a while
20:52:10 <suehle> Trying to redefine "beat" and getting more people on each beat was on the list as well
20:52:19 <rbergeron> suehle: i meant literally, like, what's next step wordpress - just "start writing" ?
20:52:53 <jbrooks> rbergeron, pretty much
20:52:54 <suehle> Basically... A couple of people volunteered on beats. Maybe I'm not sure what you're asking?
20:53:31 <graphite6> is there an example of a beat?
20:54:06 <jbrooks> graphite6, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats
20:54:15 <mizmo> i think it's like on LWN - there's a 'distributions' beat, a 'development' beat, a 'security', 'announcements' 'kernel' etc
20:54:29 <rbergeron> i was basically asking - timeline, once we get a wordpress if there will be some testing of workflow, if someone is doing art stuff and when, etc.
20:54:48 <suehle> What they said. I'm looking for where I made this wiki page and made notes of beats and volunteers. I should learn to bookmark things or something.
20:54:49 <rbergeron> before f18 is released, after, hopeful launch date?
20:55:29 <suehle> I'd love to do it before FUDcon. I just sent out the emails last week expecting somebody to yell at me that they'd already worked on Insight and to get off my lawn, but that didn't happen, so I was thrown. :D
20:55:41 <rbergeron> yeah.
20:55:45 <suehle> So once we decide WP, which it sounds like we have, we should get the design team on the theme.
20:55:47 <graphite6> jbrooks: mizmo: thanks!, checking out page now
20:55:49 <rbergeron> well, we didn't do it last time we threw out insight, either. :)
20:56:10 <rbergeron> when we threw out zikula for drupal
20:56:41 <mizmo> the problem with both zikula and drupal is that the designers for the most part don't do php and theming them required php
20:56:53 <mizmo> but wordpress themes are a lot easier to work on for designers
20:57:04 * suehle can translate design to php
20:57:12 <suehle> or that :)
20:57:26 <mizmo> the other thing is that it was kind of hellish to set up test instances of either of those to work on theming
20:57:27 <rbergeron> well, zikula had a universe of issues beyond that
20:57:30 <mizmo> but wp = easy
20:57:33 <rbergeron> yeah
20:57:41 <rbergeron> easier = winninger
20:57:54 <suehle> Did we decide where to host this party?
20:58:20 <mizmo> im thinking openshift
20:58:28 <zoglesby> +1 for openshift
20:58:31 <rbergeron> my only concern with openshift is uptime - even with the fudcon page it's sort of been occasionally not awesome
20:58:37 <rbergeron> can we get our own domain name within openshift
20:58:42 <rbergeron> instead of being blahblahblah.rhapps.com
20:58:43 <rbergeron> ?
20:58:45 <jbrooks> rbergeron, yes
20:58:51 <mizmo> yeh that shuldnt be an issue at all
20:58:55 <graphite6> +1 openshift
20:58:56 <jbrooks> www.ovirt.org just switched to openshift
20:59:02 <jbrooks> on mediawiki
20:59:07 <graphite6> arquillian is on openshift
20:59:12 <suehle> should we just reuse insight.fp.o?
20:59:25 <mizmo> i think we should have a sexier domain
20:59:29 <rbergeron> we could pick another name
20:59:40 <mizmo> fedorainsight.org
20:59:44 <mizmo> fedoramagazine.org?
20:59:51 <mizmo> (this could turn into a rathole quickly though)
20:59:54 <jbrooks> Magazine is cool
20:59:56 <jbrooks> news
21:00:07 <jbrooks> insight doesn't really communicate something to me
21:00:10 <suehle> At some point there was discussion of Under the Brim. We had this discussion! O archives, where art thou?
21:00:11 <graphite6> isn't a fan of insight - too ambiguous
21:00:20 <jbrooks> under the brim is fun
21:00:22 <rbergeron> yes!
21:00:31 <mizmo> is red hat okay if we use that?
21:00:44 <suehle> mizmo, I doubt there are more than three people left who remember that Under The Brim existed.
21:00:51 <jbrooks> We can ask -- does anyone here know anyone at Red Hat? ;)
21:00:58 <graphite6> under the brim = I'm swanky and I know it :)
21:00:58 <mizmo> im just thinking from an artwork POV, it's going to be very hard to style something called 'under the brim' without using hat artwork
21:01:16 <rbergeron> does anyone here know anyone at red hat that can actually respond to that these days is a better question ;)
21:01:28 <AnnaE> rebergeron, I can look into it
21:01:29 <mizmo> artwork involving being under the brim when the brim is not on a hat.... is kind of frightening
21:01:34 <suehle> Disclosure of naming: Under The Brim was briefly the name of a Red Hat Magazine predecessor ~7 years ago
21:02:15 <suehle> But it's a darn good name that I think deserves to live on. :D
21:02:20 <mizmo> we could just call it fedora magazine and keep it simple
21:02:28 <mizmo> that would be a lot less restrictive on the artwork too
21:02:30 <rbergeron> mizmo: and it's pretty "international" friendly
21:02:34 <jbrooks> thoughtyouwereridofbeefymiracle.com
21:02:54 <mizmo> we could do an under the brim column maybe?
21:02:58 <mizmo> to keep the name alive?
21:03:07 <jbrooks> yeah, that's not a bad idea
21:03:11 <jbrooks> good column name
21:03:20 <graphite6> I like fedora magazine + under the brim column
21:03:26 <suehle> Sure. That was just the best I'd come up with when we started discussing new names. :)
21:03:43 <mizmo> http://gimpmagazine.org/ <= seems to be working for these guys :)
21:03:50 <mizmo> lets do that then, no more insight
21:04:18 <ryanlerch> and a "millinery" column too? :)
21:04:20 <rbergeron> insight was more meant for "people involved in fedora to figure out wtf is going on"
21:04:27 <rbergeron> or for press to figure out wtf is going on
21:04:46 <mizmo> i want something indiana jones themed
21:04:49 <mizmo> since he wears a fedora
21:05:07 <mizmo> hehe 'the treasure in the jungle' <= mailing list posts that are actually useful. all 3 of them
21:05:09 <graphite6> mizmo: leather, a whip, and a sexy smile
21:05:13 <mizmo> hehe
21:05:42 <suehle> I just realized we're so over time. Do people want to keep going or take the conversation to the list/next week?
21:05:55 <rbergeron> graphite6: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SLZBCIpv6jA/Tfo3p-S9ZDI/AAAAAAAAIW4/2iJvU7cab8I/s1600/catwoman-lego-minifig.jpg <-- like that? :)
21:05:59 <rbergeron> oh, that's not indy.
21:06:22 * rbergeron has no preference. list is good.
21:06:23 <mizmo> fwiw i'm requesting a fedora-mag-admin alias email address to set up a prototype wp app on openshift
21:06:31 <graphite6> rbergeron: lol, under the mask :D
21:07:03 <suehle> mizmo, you win the Productivity Award today!
21:07:18 <graphite6> +1 mizmo
21:07:37 <suehle> To the list, then! And #fedora-mktg, where nobody ever talks. :)
21:07:41 <graphite6> Oh, real quick - I sent an email to the 27000 facebook page
21:07:49 <suehle> What did he say?
21:08:10 <graphite6> but not till today, so haven't gotten a response - will set up a harassment schedule until I do
21:08:34 <graphite6> I do wonder if maybe red hat set this account up?
21:08:50 <graphite6> it's very official feeling
21:08:55 <mizmo> does anyone else want to be under the email address while i set stuff up, or rather wait until all the spamming with initial setup is done?
21:09:02 <suehle> graphite6, Pretty certain not, but I'll double check our list.
21:09:20 <suehle> FB is pretty nice about handing over an account that is rightfully yours (like this) if the actual owner isn't responsive.
21:09:52 <suehle> Any other final words?
21:09:57 <graphite6> suehle: I'll let everyone know as soon as I hear back, and I made a note that I sent a message on the wiki
21:10:04 <graphite6> I'm good for the moment
21:10:06 <suehle> woot
21:10:10 <suehle> #endmeeting