16:30:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG
16:30:01 <nirik> #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig
16:30:01 <nirik> #chair torbuntu pbrobinson
16:30:01 <nirik> #topic Init process
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16:30:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: nirik pbrobinson torbuntu
16:30:13 <nirik> hey, who all is around for a mobility sig meeting?
16:30:48 <torbuntu51> I am here, Torbuntu (tor.sh)
16:31:08 * pbrobinson is here
16:33:11 <nirik> ok, I am also in another meeting. ;(
16:33:17 <nirik> #topic PinePhone status
16:33:23 <nirik> any fun status to report?
16:33:46 <nirik> I managed to get my phone back setup again...
16:33:49 <pbrobinson> no, slowly getting through bits of kernel stuff but not anything of note to report
16:34:04 <pbrobinson> I found the back to my phone during the week :-D
16:34:05 <torbuntu51> Been pretty light on package updates lately (holidays and such I'm sure). I did have a chance to play with an upcoming plugin for MMS, and it works nicely already!
16:34:32 <torbuntu51> It is called mmsd and I plan to start packaging it in Copr this month.
16:34:48 <torbuntu51> It currently requires a patch for purple-mm-sms, but that is intended to be submitted for upstream.
16:34:56 <nirik> cool.
16:35:08 <nirik> so what all is left in the copr? anything ? or it's all packaged now?
16:35:29 <torbuntu51> Still a few things, Chatty, purple-mm-sms, kgx, and I think carbons?
16:35:56 <torbuntu51> I think kgx was approved but hasn't been pushed into Fedora proper yet.
16:36:07 <torbuntu51> Chatty needed to be rebuilt and submitted for version 2 if it hasn't yet.
16:36:19 <torbuntu51> Nikhil was doing those if I recall.
16:36:31 <nirik> ok.
16:36:42 <torbuntu51> I've been digging into Calls again, trying to figure the audio switching out.
16:36:58 <torbuntu51> I've been looking at how suse does it, and it looks like they have a patched package for Wys, which manages the switching.
16:37:15 <torbuntu51> I was going to ask if I should work on patching and packaging that as well, but call it wys-pinephone
16:37:24 <torbuntu51> then package wys itself as well for the eventual arrival of my Librem 5
16:41:31 <torbuntu51> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/devel:ARM:Factory:Contrib:PinePhone/wys
16:41:49 <torbuntu51> packaged from here: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/wys
16:43:06 <nirik> sounds ok. well... can the patch be upstreamed?
16:43:20 <nirik> or it's too specific?
16:43:40 <torbuntu51> The patch specifically removes functionality that is necessary for Librem5
16:44:06 <nirik> ah, thats unfortunate. ;(
16:44:27 <torbuntu51> Very much so... and I'm not sure when the devs can get around to updating callaudiod to stop using a patched pulseaudio :(
16:45:27 <nirik> that stuff is no fun, but it really needs to get sorted out... someday at least
16:46:08 <torbuntu51> What really bites is that it is related to Calling. A crucial aspect of a phone haha
16:47:10 <torbuntu51> As far as I have seen from other distributions, they all use some sort of downstream patched something or another to make it work.
16:47:21 <torbuntu51> Either the patched pulseaudio, or the patched wys.
16:49:42 <nirik> humf.
16:49:56 <nirik> perhaps we could write up a ticket on this and try and pull in people to solve it...
16:49:58 <torbuntu51> And then when pipewire joins the fray it becomes a new party.
16:50:31 <torbuntu51> We do have the one issue on pagure linking to the issue on callaudiod, but this might need a lot more than just that to get working.
16:50:32 <nirik> yep.
16:50:40 <nirik> but perhaps they will be more understanding than others.
16:50:48 <torbuntu51> So an issue for getting it done properly with the right expertise would be great.
16:51:15 <nirik> yeah.
16:51:39 <torbuntu51> Where would an issue like this be posted? On Pagure again or is this a bugzilla thing?
16:51:58 <torbuntu51> audio routing is very complex...
16:53:00 <nirik> yeah, I guess it really needs a detailed writeup and then seeing who we should rope into it...
16:53:27 <torbuntu51> Since it is planned for Fedora to go pipewire, is there a way to kind of trend that direction?
16:54:25 <nirik> sure. Perhaps we could switch to it and then file pipewire bugs for the issues?
16:55:10 <torbuntu51> If you think that would work?
16:55:45 <nirik> worth a try. ;)
16:56:20 <torbuntu51> Alright :)  Fedora will be the first to use pipewire mobile then won't it?
16:56:28 <nirik> could be. :)
16:57:26 <nirik> so, since it's just a few of us, shall we call it a meeting this week?
16:58:07 <nirik> or anything else to cover?
16:58:10 <torbuntu51> mmsd and calling were the only parts I had to discuss. Is there any way I can help push the other pieces forward from copr?
16:58:19 <torbuntu51> As far as the approved packages, and getting Chatty fixed up for approval?
16:58:33 <torbuntu51> I don't want to usurp the packages from Nikhil, but if they are approved it would be nice to have them pushed up.
16:58:54 <torbuntu51> I can message them about it on #fedora-phone and see if that is ok.
16:59:02 <nirik> yeah, perhaps we can get a hold of them and get them to give you approval to move forward on them?
16:59:05 <nirik> yeah
16:59:13 <nirik> I am happy to do reviiews/co-maintain...
16:59:41 <torbuntu51> Once Chatty gets up in Fedora I believe that is the majority if not all of the userspace applications ready then?
16:59:56 <torbuntu51> oh and kgx it seems.
17:01:38 <nirik> yeah.
17:02:02 <nirik> oh, I  updated my modem firmware this weekend... it was pretty easy.
17:02:25 <torbuntu51> That's just poking the firmware in the directory right?
17:02:40 <nirik> it's a firmware and small flashing tool
17:02:53 <nirik> the modem actually is a armv7 SOC and runs linux. ;)
17:03:10 <torbuntu51> Yeah someone got Linux 5.10 running on it haha
17:03:13 <nirik> the postmarketos folks even got PmOS running on it.
17:03:17 <nirik> yeah
17:03:31 <torbuntu51> Incredible haha
17:04:03 <nirik> anyhow, thanks torbuntu51 and pbrobinson. ;)
17:04:11 <nirik> lets continue in #fedora-phone...
17:04:14 <nirik> #endmeeting