16:30:01 #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG 16:30:01 #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig 16:30:01 #chair torbuntu pbrobinson 16:30:01 #topic Init process 16:30:01 Meeting started Mon Jan 11 16:30:01 2021 UTC. 16:30:01 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:30:01 The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:30:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:30:01 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_mobility_sig' 16:30:01 Current chairs: nirik pbrobinson torbuntu 16:30:13 hey, who all is around for a mobility sig meeting? 16:30:48 I am here, Torbuntu (tor.sh) 16:31:08 * pbrobinson is here 16:33:11 ok, I am also in another meeting. ;( 16:33:17 #topic PinePhone status 16:33:23 any fun status to report? 16:33:46 I managed to get my phone back setup again... 16:33:49 no, slowly getting through bits of kernel stuff but not anything of note to report 16:34:04 I found the back to my phone during the week :-D 16:34:05 Been pretty light on package updates lately (holidays and such I'm sure). I did have a chance to play with an upcoming plugin for MMS, and it works nicely already! 16:34:32 It is called mmsd and I plan to start packaging it in Copr this month. 16:34:48 It currently requires a patch for purple-mm-sms, but that is intended to be submitted for upstream. 16:34:56 cool. 16:35:08 so what all is left in the copr? anything ? or it's all packaged now? 16:35:29 Still a few things, Chatty, purple-mm-sms, kgx, and I think carbons? 16:35:56 I think kgx was approved but hasn't been pushed into Fedora proper yet. 16:36:07 Chatty needed to be rebuilt and submitted for version 2 if it hasn't yet. 16:36:19 Nikhil was doing those if I recall. 16:36:31 ok. 16:36:42 I've been digging into Calls again, trying to figure the audio switching out. 16:36:58 I've been looking at how suse does it, and it looks like they have a patched package for Wys, which manages the switching. 16:37:15 I was going to ask if I should work on patching and packaging that as well, but call it wys-pinephone 16:37:24 then package wys itself as well for the eventual arrival of my Librem 5 16:41:31 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/devel:ARM:Factory:Contrib:PinePhone/wys 16:41:49 packaged from here: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/wys 16:43:06 sounds ok. well... can the patch be upstreamed? 16:43:20 or it's too specific? 16:43:40 The patch specifically removes functionality that is necessary for Librem5 16:44:06 ah, thats unfortunate. ;( 16:44:27 Very much so... and I'm not sure when the devs can get around to updating callaudiod to stop using a patched pulseaudio :( 16:45:27 that stuff is no fun, but it really needs to get sorted out... someday at least 16:46:08 What really bites is that it is related to Calling. A crucial aspect of a phone haha 16:47:10 As far as I have seen from other distributions, they all use some sort of downstream patched something or another to make it work. 16:47:21 Either the patched pulseaudio, or the patched wys. 16:49:42 humf. 16:49:56 perhaps we could write up a ticket on this and try and pull in people to solve it... 16:49:58 And then when pipewire joins the fray it becomes a new party. 16:50:31 We do have the one issue on pagure linking to the issue on callaudiod, but this might need a lot more than just that to get working. 16:50:32 yep. 16:50:40 but perhaps they will be more understanding than others. 16:50:48 So an issue for getting it done properly with the right expertise would be great. 16:51:15 yeah. 16:51:39 Where would an issue like this be posted? On Pagure again or is this a bugzilla thing? 16:51:58 audio routing is very complex... 16:53:00 yeah, I guess it really needs a detailed writeup and then seeing who we should rope into it... 16:53:27 Since it is planned for Fedora to go pipewire, is there a way to kind of trend that direction? 16:54:25 sure. Perhaps we could switch to it and then file pipewire bugs for the issues? 16:55:10 If you think that would work? 16:55:45 worth a try. ;) 16:56:20 Alright :) Fedora will be the first to use pipewire mobile then won't it? 16:56:28 could be. :) 16:57:26 so, since it's just a few of us, shall we call it a meeting this week? 16:58:07 or anything else to cover? 16:58:10 mmsd and calling were the only parts I had to discuss. Is there any way I can help push the other pieces forward from copr? 16:58:19 As far as the approved packages, and getting Chatty fixed up for approval? 16:58:33 I don't want to usurp the packages from Nikhil, but if they are approved it would be nice to have them pushed up. 16:58:54 I can message them about it on #fedora-phone and see if that is ok. 16:59:02 yeah, perhaps we can get a hold of them and get them to give you approval to move forward on them? 16:59:05 yeah 16:59:13 I am happy to do reviiews/co-maintain... 16:59:41 Once Chatty gets up in Fedora I believe that is the majority if not all of the userspace applications ready then? 16:59:56 oh and kgx it seems. 17:01:38 yeah. 17:02:02 oh, I updated my modem firmware this weekend... it was pretty easy. 17:02:25 That's just poking the firmware in the directory right? 17:02:40 it's a firmware and small flashing tool 17:02:53 the modem actually is a armv7 SOC and runs linux. ;) 17:03:10 Yeah someone got Linux 5.10 running on it haha 17:03:13 the postmarketos folks even got PmOS running on it. 17:03:17 yeah 17:03:31 Incredible haha 17:04:03 anyhow, thanks torbuntu51 and pbrobinson. ;) 17:04:11 lets continue in #fedora-phone... 17:04:14 #endmeeting