16:30:02 #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG 16:30:02 #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig 16:30:02 #chair torbuntu pbrobinson _Yoda_ 16:30:02 #topic init process 16:30:02 Meeting started Mon Nov 8 16:30:02 2021 UTC. 16:30:02 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:30:02 The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:30:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:30:02 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_mobility_sig' 16:30:02 Current chairs: _Yoda_ nirik pbrobinson torbuntu 16:30:10 who all is around for a mobility sig meeting? 16:30:44 here 16:31:11 * nirik will give a few for folks to wander in 16:31:14 Whats the "usefull command #halp" ?? 16:31:46 o/ 16:31:59 it identifies a thing that you want help with in the meeting logs... no idea why they called it halp... 16:34:48 #topic remix status / issues / plans 16:35:05 so, hows things? I guess there's a bad dnf/gpg thing still? is that filed anywhere? 16:35:31 * torsh[m]1 waves 16:35:39 hey 16:35:58 Not by me. It seems to only hit when using qemu 16:36:07 that sounds strange in itself. 16:36:42 yeah, pretty odd. 16:36:58 how's sound these days? 16:37:05 It happens when dnf fetches files from our copr. No problems from Fedora repos 16:37:07 * nirik needs to update his phone and see how things are 16:37:29 even more weird. 16:37:39 Same issues I think 16:37:46 since i kicked pipewire and switched back to pulse, it works as a charme 16:38:15 I'm still unable to determine why it works on one phone and not the other with the "same stack" 16:38:21 As in, both using wireplumber and pipewire. 16:38:31 save rev phones? 16:38:47 tor: thats reminds me of early 2021 where we asked the same question about pipewire + alsoa combos. 16:38:50 One is Manjaro CE the other is Beta 16:38:54 the working one is Beta Edition 16:38:59 Marius[m]12: thats ok for a stop gap, but fedora is moving all to pipewire, so we will likely need to get it working someday 16:39:21 nirik: no doubt about that. 16:39:29 :) 16:39:45 sooner rather than later 16:40:11 but it needs to work first and we can't do anything about it other than reporting the issues. 16:40:29 * nirik nods. 16:41:13 in my expererence wirepulmber/pipewire maintainers are pretty responsive... but of course pinephone could be the bottom of their priority list. 16:41:57 the callaudiod developer is also very busy, so not much movement happening on that side. 16:42:34 yeah. 16:43:22 So, not much change overall besides the usual package updates. As far as I know. 16:43:27 #info there's a plasma mobile remix test image: ftp://pine.warpspeed.dk/testbuild/Plasma-Mobile-F36-2021-11-01.img.xz (from the ticket comments) 16:44:12 No phone and no sms - but besides that I Think it works grelt 16:44:23 Great 16:45:03 Phone and sms is waiting for update from the KDE people 16:45:14 did you add megis bootmenu to your image (as always?) 16:45:31 Of course :) 16:45:32 are there still packages we need to package up? 16:46:08 than i must find a new sdcard to test it ... 16:46:18 And the nightlies works from eMMC too now 16:46:38 nirik: for the plasma image or in general? 16:46:42 Yes we are still missing some of the Gear apps for plamo 16:46:44 well, either I guess. 16:47:31 I still just have the usual list which require other changes: 16:47:31 - mmsd-tng (waiting for Chatty to have the release with supported front end, then I'll submit a request) 16:47:31 - eg25-manager (useless with current kernel) 16:49:03 Quick question: do we have security audits for all components that get in contact with the modem and/or process outside data arrived via modem? 16:49:38 I'm not aware of any security auditing in fedora... 16:51:05 https://pagure.io/fedora-mobility/issue/10 has a list of plasma packages in the last comment... 16:51:10 naja,.. i.e. mms are a critical security risk on other phones... 16:52:19 anything else on remix today? 16:52:45 Oh, there was a note on the meeting ticket to discuss: 16:52:54 add Modemmanager / GPS as topic 16:53:24 My understanding is that currently it doesn't work... but that was a while ago when last I looked. 16:53:25 yes.. the modemmanager devs have added the rules to geoclue to upstream. 16:53:38 ah, so it's working now? out of the box? 16:53:50 our little downstream patch will be unneccessary in the future 16:54:10 They merged it, but no idea when we see it in a build. 16:54:22 and yes, thats the goal: working out of the box ;) 16:54:35 awesome. 16:54:46 #topic fedora mainline plans 16:54:57 if you wanne test it, there is a RPM in our normal channel. just install it, than your gps works. 16:55:11 so I think we are still waiting and hoping to get the modem or wifi working with fedora kernels, until that happens we are pretty stuck 16:55:21 Marius[m]12: cool, whats the package name? 16:55:22 Which RPM ? 16:55:41 one second. 16:56:04 this one: https://static.bloggt-in-braunschweig.de/modemmanager-agps-1-1.aarch64.rpm 16:56:08 Not Munch chance for wifi - no one seems to want to upstream it 16:56:23 yep. ;( modem has a slight chance. 16:56:46 #topic all other business 16:57:03 I'm much more hopeful on the pinephone pro. :) Anyone have one yet? 16:57:13 Modem should work with eg25-manager 16:57:27 megi got a pro ;) 16:57:58 yoda[m]: yeah, but needs also some dt fixes I think... or something. 16:58:17 nirik: I'm going to wait for a bit before I can save up for that one. 16:58:21 The pro seems to be much more vanilla kernel friendly 16:58:48 Sure - you need to update dts to include modem information 16:59:36 anyone here who might be able to take a stab at that? I know pbrobinson was looking into it, but he's super busy, so if we could come up with something he could review that would be a great help 16:59:46 * nirik has never messed with them personally 17:00:59 passe 17:01:16 Neither have I - but I guess all needed changes can be found in Mobians DTS 17:01:36 btw, can the dt be installed device depended? 17:02:36 no idea. I think it's read from the boot volume? 17:03:22 ok, any other items folks would like to discuss? 17:03:27 not that you need to maintain two different images. that would a a big hassle 17:04:13 I've not much info today unfortunately 17:04:25 There is already 3 different dts’s for the på 17:04:33 Pinephone 17:05:16 I don’t have anything… 17:05:43 Oh, there was also a thread on a council ticket since we last met about making pinephone pro a fedora objective: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/380 17:05:53 it sort of petered out... 17:06:54 I guess there is not Munch we can add to that 17:06:55 so, not sure what will become there, but do comment if anyone has further thoughts on it. 17:07:00 I thought it was kde specifically so I didn't have anything to add there since I'm not involved on that space. 17:07:29 I'd really prefer a single image allowing you to switch between phosh/plasma mobile 17:07:55 Having the two desktops on the same image would cause a little mess though couldn't it? 17:08:09 I intend to make such image soon 17:08:13 sure, it could, we would have to test and work those issues out 17:08:13 I know having kde and gnome together can sometimes leave weird behavior. Or at least last I had it. 17:08:33 it shouldn't really, so if it does thats something to be fixed. IMHO 17:09:01 the normal desktops do not interfere much, no idea about plamo, but it's there any concerns why it should interfere? 17:09:37 How about easily removing one or the other? If I only intend to use one, I wouldn't want ModemManager to get taken out with one. 17:09:40 the other real issue is how to switch... but I suppose it could even be something that needs you to use a console and run some commands... and then which is primary/default... 17:10:22 We already have that in the nightlies 17:10:34 that's not different from now with gnome and phosh. 17:10:39 true 17:10:55 anyhow, all things to ponder on. 17:11:06 And what when we want to do an ostree image? 17:11:08 if nothing else today, will close out and let folks get back to their day 17:11:40 torsh[m]: well, once we have a 'normal' image working I would say. I don't think it's good to jump to that when we are still trying to get things working... 17:12:07 I meant in relation to having both desktop varieties 17:12:21 But that is down the road I suppose. 17:12:33 shall i write a small switch app? 17:12:54 Marius[m]12: that could be useful, sure... 17:13:13 We use lightdm in the nightlies 17:13:53 it will be configureable. 17:15:40 alright, thanks for coming everyone. :) Continue in #fedora-mobility 17:15:43 #endmeeting