16:30:39 <nirik> #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG
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16:30:39 <nirik> #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig
16:30:39 <nirik> #chair torbuntu pbrobinson _Yoda_
16:30:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: _Yoda_ nirik pbrobinson torbuntu
16:30:39 <nirik> #topic init process
16:31:07 * nirik waits for folks to wander in
16:31:33 <torsh[m]> 👋
16:35:29 <nirik> ok, I guess it's just us...
16:35:35 <nirik> #topic remix status / issues / plans
16:36:20 <nirik> dec 15th was the last compose... should probibly do a new one.
16:36:32 <torsh[m]> Status is about the same as usual. Callaudiod had a lot of action lately trying to help the pipewire/wireplumber fiasco. So that seems to be more in progress now! Hopefully a solid fix soon.
16:36:42 <torsh[m]> nirik: I'll add that to my list.
16:37:08 <torsh[m]> Mmsd is also approved (thank you!) So soon folks can install that (I'd like it in the new image though) and start playing with mms support
16:37:17 <nirik> and... I guess we need to think about what we want to do moving forward for number of images...
16:37:56 <nirik> because theres: pp/phosh, pp/kf-mobile, ppp/phosh, ppp/kf-mobile
16:38:26 <nirik> but it might be the ppp stuff works with fedora kernels/uboot before too long
16:39:09 <nirik> and we still do have some plasma stuff to get reviewed, etc.... so for now the current image is probibly fine
16:40:18 <torsh[m]> Somewhat related njha mentioned packaging Mobian kernel for our use. That would support pp and ppp
16:40:23 <torsh[m]> And eg25manager
16:40:50 <nirik> yeah, would still be a remix, but still might be worth doing depending
16:41:16 <nirik> the next step for ppp is getting uboot / dtb stuff upstream
16:41:59 <nirik> anyhow, anything else remix related?
16:42:37 <torsh[m]> nirik: Well we eventually will need eg25manager no matter what. Using mobian kernel will allow us to get that over with
16:42:47 <torsh[m]> nirik: Not from me I don't think.
16:43:20 <nirik> eg25manager needs kernel patches/drive from megi right?
16:43:34 <torsh[m]> It needs megi's patches removed
16:43:41 <torsh[m]> It is a userland version of megi's modem driver.
16:43:47 <nirik> ah right, ok, cool.
16:43:53 <nirik> #topic fedora mainline plans
16:44:03 <nirik> I think here on pp we are as stuck as always.
16:44:12 <torsh[m]> yup
16:44:21 <nirik> on ppp we need more kernel and uboot upstreaming to happen... which hopefully it will once they open wider orders
16:44:58 <nirik> the ppp is sure a lot zippier than the pp... :)
16:45:03 <nirik> #topic council issue #380 - pinephone pro for developers
16:45:03 <nirik> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/380
16:45:19 <nirik> This is somewhat stalled because pine wasn't offering orders yet...
16:45:32 <torsh[m]> I was wondering how that would play out.
16:45:32 <nirik> I guess we wait and see when they do if the council can still swing this
16:46:24 <nirik> I can ask on the ticket too for any status. I did submit the list of folks I had...
16:46:50 <torsh[m]> Sounds good.
16:47:01 <torsh[m]> did you happen to pick up a keyboard case?
16:47:05 <torsh[m]> (sorry for unrelated, I didn't squeeze it in on the other topic)
16:47:09 <nirik> also... the council was wondering if we could come to a video meeting and talk about the current state of things, etc.
16:47:29 <torsh[m]> Oh wow, that would be pretty awesome.
16:47:50 <nirik> I'm not sure I have time to work on that anytime soon, but if someone(s) would like to put together a presentation for them that would be great.
16:48:14 <nirik> yeah, I did order one... hasn't arrived yet (or might have arrived at my mailbox in town, but I haven't gotten my mail there in a while)
16:48:42 * pbrobinson is sort of here
16:48:54 <torsh[m]> 👋 hey
16:49:07 <nirik> hey pbrobinson. Hope you had a good holidays...
16:49:23 <nirik> #info nirik will update ticket on council tracker
16:49:37 <nirik> #info nirik will ask for folks to do a presentation for the council.
16:49:52 <nirik> a sugguested topic:
16:49:56 <nirik> #topic Any new upcoming devices
16:50:15 <nirik> I guess the keyboard case is sort of in here. ;) I'll do a review when I get mine.
16:50:31 <nirik> I also got a wireless charging cover...
16:50:32 <torsh[m]> I'll post pictures and such when mine arrives too :)
16:51:09 <pbrobinson> nice. I got a PocketPC over the break too, I've started to look at how we can support that too over the break
16:51:11 <nirik> In other phone news, there was a new fairphone I think out late last year.
16:51:54 <torsh[m]> The 3+?
16:51:56 <nirik> fairphone4... it's quite pricy tho... ~1200 I think.
16:51:58 <torsh[m]> oh 4 already dang
16:52:34 <nirik> oh, it's less... https://shop.fairphone.com/en/buy-fairphone-4
16:53:56 <torsh[m]> That is pretty beefy
16:53:58 <nirik> pbrobinson: have you seen any upstream uboot/dtb stuff for pinephonepro yet?
16:55:18 <pbrobinson> nirik: not yet, but I do have kernel forks around with them
16:55:25 <nirik> #topic Open Floor / AOB
16:55:53 <nirik> cool. I am running arch on mine... seems to work ok and sure a lot faster than the pinephone
16:56:23 <nirik> Oh, there's a matrix of plasma packages that need reviewing/sponsoring people. I will try and work on that as time permits...
16:56:28 <nirik> would be good to get that all in.
16:57:07 <pbrobinson> nirik: I'll look at a U-Boot firmware build for PPP when I can get one and then we can just use FW provided DT there
16:57:49 * nirik nods. cool.
16:58:10 <nirik> I'm hopeful a large number of things will just work with fedora kernels there... but time will tell
16:59:19 <nirik> ok, anything else to go over?
16:59:26 <torsh[m]> Not from me.
17:00:15 <nirik> ok, thanks everyone! back to #fedora-mobility
17:00:18 <nirik> #endmeeting