15:30:04 #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG 15:30:04 Meeting started Mon Jun 13 15:30:04 2022 UTC. 15:30:04 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:30:04 The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:30:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:30:04 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_mobility_sig' 15:30:04 #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig 15:30:04 #chair torbuntu pbrobinson _Yoda_ 15:30:04 #topic init process 15:30:04 Current chairs: _Yoda_ nirik pbrobinson torbuntu 15:30:16 Hey 15:30:20 * pbrobinson is here 15:30:20 who's around for a mobility sig meeting? 15:30:45 <_Yoda> o/ 15:32:04 * nirik is in a video meeting too, so sorry about that... 15:32:54 ok, lets go ahead 15:32:59 #topic remix status / issues / plans 15:33:07 any remix news / status to note? 15:34:09 Mostly just package updates on my side. Nothing too exciting. Got Squeekboard finally upgraded a few versions though so that felt good. Waiting on wlroots compat package to update the phoc/phosh packages for the new fancy gestures. 15:34:47 I've been slowly working on the low level stuff around firmware for both gens of Pinephone 15:35:39 basically digging through early boot, firmwares and kernel related issues 15:35:55 cool. 15:36:38 pbrobinson: how dire does it look? ;) 15:36:52 I also need to dig into the status of the screen on the PPP to see if we can light that up with an upstream kernel 15:37:13 nirik: I'm getting there albeit no where near as quickly as I'd like 15:37:39 <_Yoda> Well, pine64 should be including that for the pro on the spi 15:38:08 the suspend firmware for the original phone is a openrisc microcontroller and I don't really know my way around that architecture so it's involving some head scratching as I have build issues 15:38:23 _Yoda: including what? 15:38:31 <_Yoda> tow-boot 15:40:09 <_Yoda> there is a meta package + script that can build the firmware + crust for the old PP 15:40:55 sure, what ever 15:41:16 it remains to be seen IMO if that's going to actually be useful 15:42:41 <_Yoda> https://gitlab.com/pine64-org/crust-meta 15:43:06 <_Yoda> I use that to build it to our current images 15:43:19 I'm well aware of it 15:43:20 ok, out of my other meeting... 15:43:32 #topic fedora mainline plans 15:43:58 so, basically we still need a bunch upstreamed... so we are still in a holding pattern there. 15:44:46 I'm basically looking at what is the MVP to see if I can get enough upstream to make it boot with screen 15:45:53 ok. I think one of wifi / bt / usbc would also be needed. But I think wifi is just a small config change? 15:46:23 on the PPP I think it's just the nvram file 15:47:35 yeah 15:49:08 the pine64 docs of this piece of HW is a lot more lax that previous HW where they have a lot more details to the exact parts in the units 15:49:39 unfortunate. ;( 15:49:53 so, on to my next topic: 15:49:56 #info discuss change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MobilityPhoshImage 15:50:22 so, should I submit this? anyone have changes/want to be added? or should we wait more for f38? 15:50:25 I tried to update/add to that but came up on some blanks 15:50:48 <_Yoda> i haven't had a chace to look at that yet 15:50:54 <_Yoda> chance 15:51:09 torsh[m]: blanks? 15:51:11 I'll give it another look when I get a chance, but I don't think I have many more details. 15:51:49 I'd like to see it using the osbuild sstuff a that means it could make use of some the things like pre null encrypted image like we're going to be doing in IoT (basically it re-encrpyts of first boot) 15:51:53 mental blanks on anything to add 15:52:01 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Self Contained Changes) Tue 2022-07-19 15:52:05 so, we have until then. 15:52:12 pbrobinson: sure... that would be nice indeed. 15:52:43 * torsh[m] crosses fingers for hopes of os-tree like images 15:53:05 so, lets punt this another month I'd say... then we can adjust it and submit it. 15:53:36 <_Yoda> we need to look into the missing bits for that image too - like no other languages available 15:53:42 I think it still needs some work giving it a quick read, can do a proper pass later 15:54:54 pbrobinson: that would be lovely, thanks... 15:55:39 so, I didn't have much more planned than that... any other topics people would like to discuss today? 15:56:11 Nothing from me for now. 15:56:21 the proposal mentions x86, is there specific HW there that people are focusing on? 15:57:08 Was that to test the images on laptops or such without the hardware difficulties of current phones? 15:57:14 pbrobinson: I think folks were talking about some of the chromebooks that could be repaved to fedora. 15:58:10 how well does phosh work in landscape/tablet formfactor? 15:58:34 It was looking decent on the pinetab last I tried it. 15:58:35 with the attached keyboard. 15:58:38 (but that was with Mobian) 15:58:39 I've not tried recently, but it seemed to work ok last I did 16:01:29 just asking because it'll be the one people test straight up, so if we're really just focusing on phone formfactors I'd even consider just focusing on arm64 for the first spin 16:03:45 well, that would be fine provided we can get ppp at least to booting/running it... without that, it seems like a wider scope or waiting would be in order. 16:03:53 but we can see how things look in a month... 16:04:22 I would love to test it out on SBC's I've got. 16:04:25 (pi's and such) 16:04:59 well FYI I am planning on making rpi4 fully supported with f37 16:05:05 in a month we should know more about the osbuild stuff more too. 16:05:22 the v3d patches I've been trying to get upstream since feb were pulled into next this morning 16:05:25 <_Yoda> hopefully Quartz64 too 16:06:04 Quartz64 works now but the display stuff and pcie stuff isn't all upstream yet 16:06:20 <_Yoda> most stuff are upstreamed in 5.19 - only the dts was delayed to 5.20 16:06:28 \o/ 16:06:40 the PPP dts also missed 5.19 didn't it? 16:07:08 <_Yoda> yes PPP still misses lots of things 16:07:41 yes, althought it has least now been posted for review, finally 16:09:10 anyhow, if nothing more, we can close out and go back to work. ;) 16:09:19 nothing from me 16:09:31 <_Yoda> not from me either 16:09:31 good to go. Thank you! 16:10:03 I should also have the IoT osbuild proposal for the encrypted images (simplified provisioning) done soon so keep and eye out 16:10:22 <_Yoda> nice 16:11:25 excellent. ;) 16:11:41 Hopefully we can sort out this last bit of osbuild to work in production soon too. 16:12:01 Thanks for coming everyone! 16:12:04 #endmeeting