15:31:52 #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG 15:31:52 Meeting started Mon Aug 8 15:31:52 2022 UTC. 15:31:52 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:31:52 The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:31:52 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:31:52 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_mobility_sig' 15:31:53 #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig 15:31:53 #chair torbuntu pbrobinson _Yoda_ 15:31:53 #topic init process 15:31:53 Current chairs: _Yoda_ nirik pbrobinson torbuntu 15:32:09 * pbrobinson o/ 15:33:00 hey pbrobinson 15:33:02 yo 15:33:06 hey Yoda[m] 15:35:05 Hey 15:35:23 hey torsh[m] 15:35:34 #topic remix status / issues / plans 15:35:44 anything to note/discuss on the remixes? 15:36:25 I know there's been a lot of churn in rawhide... 15:36:30 Pretty close to make a common kernel for both phones 15:36:55 just got set back 3 days, as desktop PC got unbootable :-/ 15:37:29 oh nice. I thought the 'cross-distro-kernel' seemed stalled out? 15:37:53 yeah, not much going on there 15:38:10 I need to revisit the U-Boot patch set for the PPP 15:38:13 but they are finally trying to upstream the DT now 15:38:18 I've not had much time for... much. ;) 15:38:40 well there's a patch and disagreements on the patch if that's what you mean by upstreaming :-D 15:38:57 so, normal open source. ;) 15:39:10 the general recomandation for PPP is to put tow-boot on SPI 15:39:30 That way we don’t need uboot from fedora 15:40:05 Yes, as I said, they are “working” on it ;-) 15:41:44 I can’t build phosh images atm, because of the Chatty issue 15:42:38 Yoda[m]: personally I don't actually like towboot 15:43:00 so I 1) won't be using it myself and 2) I've heard from many others that pepole want other options 15:43:20 Well, afaik, it will be preinstalled by factory on next batches of PPP 15:43:24 what's the chatty issue? is there a bug? 15:44:00 There is a dependency requirement for libsoup 2 but gnome and friends are moving to libsoup 3. (evolution data server requires it) 15:45:45 they ship both don't they, or is it a issue due to evo linking against one and hence chatty ends up trying to link in both? 15:46:35 I think the latter 15:47:35 OK 15:48:13 is there an upstream migration bug to support both? 15:49:37 https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/chatty/-/issues/727 15:49:42 https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/libcmatrix/-/issues/4 15:49:46 these are the issues I'm aware of 15:50:29 torsh[m]: thx 15:51:05 Yup 👍️ 15:51:11 for those that are playing with this stuff on the rpi4 the 5.19 kernel now has full graphics acceleration in place 15:51:32 nice! 15:51:36 there's some issues around the rpi400 I need to look at 15:51:41 #topic mainstream plans 15:51:56 torsh[m]: I think we got you one of those didn't we? 15:52:10 Yup! Haven't been able to get phosh running without HA though 15:52:14 Same for the pi 3 15:52:22 HA? 15:52:33 hardware acceleration 15:52:42 The graphics piece. 15:53:01 ah, yes, so if you use the 5.19 kernel that is all there now 15:53:12 Even for the 3? 15:53:24 the 3 has had it for years 15:53:32 it was the rpi4 that didn't 15:53:38 I was also playing with vulkan too on the rpi4 15:53:50 Ah right 🤦‍♂️ 15:54:04 Awesome, that's exciting stuff! 15:54:51 The failure I'm having with the 3 was getting the 7inch pi display working 😅 15:56:39 I need to revisit that one, it's on the list 15:57:20 Awesome :) I've been really itching to try phosh on it but it keep eluding my efforts. 15:57:20 There was a new stable phosh today 15:57:25 there's been a lot of changed in the vc4 driver recently so maybe it's impproved or maybe got worse :-D 15:57:35 https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/phosh/-/releases/v0.20.0 15:57:58 I have the spec file updated and testing in my copr branch for that phosh release. 15:58:07 nice 15:58:09 (I think I shared a screenshot in mobility) 15:58:46 (ah sorry i have not checked tough i would mention in the QA meeting but saw that this meeting started on Matrix) 16:02:18 #topic meeting time 16:02:34 I also started going through downstream patches for various pieces of the PPP the other day 16:02:39 So, I'm often double booked at this time, does anyone mind if we move the meeting time a bit? 16:02:47 pbrobinson: aweseome. 16:03:44 nirik: fine by me 16:03:51 Me too 16:04:01 I'll send out a whenisgood or whatever and we can adjust next time. 16:04:05 I mean I'm probably double booked most of the time anyway 16:05:42 #topic Open Floor 16:05:55 anything more to discuss? 16:06:47 I was curious if anything more was needed for the phosh spin document? 16:07:02 which doc was that? 16:07:06 I think it's basically ready... I suppose we could put it in for f38 ? 16:07:22 ah, the changes doc? I was going to review that at some point 16:07:30 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MobilityPhoshImage 16:07:31 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MobilityPhoshImage 16:07:46 yeah, changes welcome as well as more change owners. 16:08:00 I tried to think of additions but drew a blank 16:08:52 I've got it open again and will review 16:09:01 I need to run... shall we end here? or someone else chaired can end the meeting... 16:09:52 I suppose the question is what is required for either of the pinephone's to be useful targets in f38? 16:09:57 end now 16:10:03 now is good 16:10:41 ok. ;) lets continue in #fedora-mobility.... 16:10:45 #endmeeting