22:00:15 <nirik> #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG
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22:00:20 <nirik> #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig
22:00:23 <nirik> #chair torbuntu pbrobinson Yoda
22:00:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: Yoda nirik pbrobinson torbuntu
22:00:28 <nirik> #topic init process
22:00:56 <nirik> anyone around to meet today?
22:01:06 <nirik> (this is my 6th meeting of the day... whee!)
22:01:18 <torsh[m]> Hey!
22:01:32 <torsh[m]> You've got me beat by 1
22:02:02 <nirik> sure is hard to get work done sometimes. ;)
22:02:40 <nirik> will wait and start at 5after
22:02:58 <torsh[m]> Sounds good 👍
22:05:08 <nirik> ok then...
22:05:15 <Yoda[m]> 👋 just came home from work 😃
22:05:18 <nirik> #topic remix status / issues / plans
22:05:26 <nirik> hey Yoda
22:05:41 <nirik> so, any fun things to report on the remix front?
22:06:03 <nirik> I haven't really had a chance to try again after I couldn't get things working the other week... need to try again this weekend
22:06:15 <nirik> I want to try out the gnome shell mobile setup. :)
22:06:26 <torsh[m]> I broke the install on my main testing phone. Haven't gotten the pro to boot yet.
22:06:28 <Yoda[m]> I managed to build that snapshot app - but not working yet (on PPP)
22:07:00 <Yoda[m]> gnome mobile shell is included in latest Phosh images
22:07:09 <torsh[m]> I was going to ask about steps to convert the current Fedora Phosh into a usable pinephone and pro image.
22:07:24 <torsh[m]> Then I could take that and update the wiki and rework the github page.
22:08:12 <nirik> well, needs the megi kernel mostly right?
22:08:39 <Yoda[m]> yeah, we still do
22:09:25 <Yoda[m]> tor.sh (@tor.sh:matrix.org) I can send you my current build scripts
22:09:26 <nirik> so in theory you could take an image, add that kernel and dtb and it would work?
22:09:28 <torsh[m]> Does the kernel in the mobility copr have all the pieces?
22:09:38 <torsh[m]> Yoda[m]: I would love that!
22:09:58 <torsh[m]> nirik: I was wondering the same
22:10:16 <Yoda[m]> it is the same kernel as I have in my copr
22:11:30 <nirik> So, the remix should boot on ppp? or it's not due to that /proc bug you were seeing?
22:11:30 <Yoda[m]> you need to add uboot for the PP
22:11:52 <Yoda[m]> no, I just removed proc again
22:12:07 <torsh[m]> Do we have a working uboot in the mobility copr as a package?
22:12:33 <Yoda[m]> they can build without proc mounted - you just get a lot of error msgs, which seems harmless
22:13:12 <nirik> ok. I am just unclear what was going on when I last tried it... it failed to boot. Got in a loop. ;( I also have an older towboot, might be needing upgrading?
22:13:12 <nirik> I'll try to try again this weekend.
22:13:34 <Yoda[m]> yes, pp-uboot is there (and pt-uboot for pinetab)
22:13:56 <Yoda[m]> PPP only needs uboot on spi
22:14:30 <Yoda[m]> there is no update for tow-boot
22:14:38 <torsh[m]> So for PP taking fedora phosh and installing the megi kernel and pp-uboot from copr could be enough to get going?
22:14:45 <Yoda[m]> maybe it was just a bad SD card, as you mentioned
22:14:45 <nirik> bummer. Thats one of the problems with a forked thing.
22:15:26 <nirik> yep. Could have been. They seem to croak on me more often than I think they should
22:15:26 <Yoda[m]> and the helper package
22:15:42 <nirik> anyhow, anything else on remxing? shall we move to mainline topic?
22:16:07 <torsh[m]> Yoda[m]: I'll have to review what's in there to refresh my memory
22:16:18 <Yoda[m]> I think some more packages too - just like before; but I'll send you my scripts after the meeting
22:16:30 <torsh[m]> Thanks again :)
22:16:51 <Yoda[m]> alsa stuff and modem control and a few others
22:17:36 <Yoda[m]> I wonder what we should do with Plamo - the KDE-sig isn't really responding to anything
22:18:02 <nirik> I'd just let it sit until they want to move it further forward?
22:18:51 <Yoda[m]> I did make a temp kickstart to actually build an image for it (x86_64)
22:19:11 <nirik> cool. Good to get some more testing with it.
22:19:39 <Yoda[m]> Going to test that with Phosh too
22:20:53 <nirik> #topic fedora mainline plans
22:20:53 <Yoda[m]> cool
22:20:54 <nirik> So I had a few things here.
22:20:54 <nirik> The mobility identity is in... so we should add that into comps/etc in rawhide...
22:21:02 <nirik> I'm sorry on how long it took, I kept driving by the PR and not looking closely, so reviewers had to correct me a bunch. ;)
22:21:03 <torsh[m]> Anything I can help with on these?
22:21:29 <nirik> if you want to do a comps pr that would be cool.
22:21:34 <nirik> otherwise I can soon.
22:22:16 <nirik> Next we still have a initial setup issue right? we need to make sure we start in gui?
22:22:41 <torsh[m]> Yeah gui initial setup is ideal
22:22:51 <torsh[m]> nirik: I can try but will likely need to ask for guidance.
22:23:00 <Yoda[m]> Yes, you need to change it to the way that is commented out
22:23:11 <nirik> Happy to help out/describe whats needed.
22:23:23 <nirik> thats a kickstart change... also needs a pr. ;)
22:23:34 <Yoda[m]> right
22:23:55 <torsh[m]> If I know where everything is and where what to change I'd love to help get those startes.
22:23:56 <torsh[m]> Started*
22:24:08 <nirik> I see there was actually a user question about the phosh image in f38 in discussion. ;)
22:24:23 <nirik> happy to show you... just catch me around sometime and I can show you the repos, etc.
22:24:53 <nirik> Has anyone tried mainline kernel recently? I can also try that this weekend...
22:25:01 <torsh[m]> nirik: I think I may have tried responding to that post
22:25:11 <nirik> in theory display should work right?
22:25:15 <nirik> tor.sh: you did. ;)
22:25:22 <torsh[m]> nirik: I've got it on my list to try this week on the PPP
22:25:25 <nirik> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-phosh-38-on-pinephone-64/81550
22:25:48 <torsh[m]> I believe yesterday I even downloaded the rawhide image to try
22:26:00 <torsh[m]> But ran out of time to write to SD and boot
22:26:02 <nirik> Cool
22:26:12 <nirik> yeah, I know that all too well. ;(
22:26:38 <nirik> anything else for mainline? the gnome-shell mobile stuff is still out of upstream tree right? or did they land it?
22:27:11 <Yoda[m]> its in a separate tree
22:27:31 <Yoda[m]> Verdre built it in copr
22:28:00 * nirik nods. makes sense.
22:28:09 <torsh[m]> It looks really awesome though. I'm quote excited about it.
22:28:27 <Yoda[m]> it feels faster than Phosh
22:28:27 <torsh[m]> Quite*
22:28:29 <nirik> yeah. It does look very promising for sure.
22:29:58 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
22:30:04 <nirik> any other items anyone would like to bring up?
22:30:44 <torsh[m]> I've got the answers and information I was looking for :)
22:30:52 <Yoda[m]> we also need to figure out why we are now forced to us nogpgcheck for all installs - a year ago it worked fine without
22:30:58 <torsh[m]> Wanted to say thanks for everyone's hard work again.
22:32:13 <Yoda[m]> we also need to figure out why we are now forced to use --nogpgcheck for all installs - a year ago it worked fine without
22:32:27 <nirik> oh yeah, that seems to be some copr issue?
22:32:40 <nirik> yeah, progress is really slow, but happening!
22:33:01 <Yoda[m]> not only copr anymore - now also main repo, when we built in a qemu-chroot
22:33:24 <Yoda[m]> but it started being only an issue with copr
22:34:08 <nirik> huh, ok. Ping me sometime and we can try and debug it... I mean it's likely due to rpm moving to sequioa... but will have to look at what the actual thing it's complaning about is.
22:35:11 <Yoda[m]> yeah, i'll try to find a bit for time for some tests, so I can make a simple reproduceble test-case
22:36:50 <nirik> Yeah, the one issue with sha1 sigs should be worked around... but there's other issues with 'weak' keys now.
22:37:09 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone! Lets continue back in the mobility channel
22:37:14 <nirik> #endmeeting