21:00:04 <nirik> #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG
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21:00:05 <nirik> #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig
21:00:11 <nirik> #chair torbuntu pbrobinson Yoda
21:00:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: Yoda nirik pbrobinson torbuntu
21:00:18 <nirik> #topic init process
21:00:46 <nirik> hey all, who's around for a meeting? will wait until :05 after...
21:01:02 <Yoda[m]> o/
21:01:24 <nirik> hey yoda. How's things?
21:01:36 * nirik needs to go grab some more coffee, back in a min
21:02:08 <Yoda[m]> ok I guess. Nice we could move the meeting today - now it fits in a break ;)
21:04:31 <nirik> break? whats that? ;)
21:04:46 <Yoda[m]> lol
21:05:17 <nirik> #topic rename SIG ( https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/rename-fedora-mobility-sig-to-fedora-mobile-sig/84547 )
21:05:34 <nirik> So, someone has suggested we rename from 'mobility sig' to 'mobile sig'.
21:05:59 <nirik> I'm ok with either name... the renaming will be a pain, but I guess I can do it if we really want to.
21:06:11 <nirik> (although I don't promise to do it with high priority)
21:06:22 <Yoda[m]> Oh, I generally don’t read that forum
21:06:37 <nirik> I happened to notice it.
21:07:04 <Yoda[m]> Why ? That is hardly any change
21:07:27 <nirik> yeah, it didn't seem worth the effort to me, but others really seemed to wait it.
21:07:31 <nirik> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:08:07 <Yoda[m]> If it is too much of a pain to do it, it doesn’t seem worse it
21:09:45 <Yoda[m]> I don’t evn know who “invented” our name in the fist place :)
21:10:11 <nirik> I think it was me and/or pbrobinson...
21:10:20 <Yoda[m]> ok
21:10:57 <nirik> I guess I could say "ok, we can do this, but It's going to be at the bottom of my pile, so I don't promise to get to it anytime soon"
21:11:19 <nirik> or we could discuss more on the thread
21:11:30 <Yoda[m]> can’t we just make a “mobile” alias ?
21:11:59 <nirik> in some cases for some things sure... but probibly not others.
21:12:28 <nirik> there's matrix channel, pagure project, docs links, wiki pages, gitlab space...fas groups....
21:13:02 <Yoda[m]> yeah, it sounds like hell to change all that
21:13:05 <nirik> a redirecting wiki page is easy... but pagure project would just need a new one made and old one to say go to the new one.
21:14:05 <nirik> it's not impossible, it's just a bunch of things and tedious.
21:14:22 <nirik> I guess I'll chime back in on the thread. Perhaps you could as well?
21:14:42 <Yoda[m]> I’ll try to remember that
21:15:42 <nirik> ok.
21:15:52 <nirik> #topic remix status / issues / plans
21:16:00 <nirik> any news on remix side?
21:16:18 <nirik> I haven't seen too much activity on the oneplus6 stuff of late, hopefully thats still moving forward some
21:16:32 <Yoda[m]> not much - what is going on with rawhide composes ?
21:16:58 <Yoda[m]> afaik they are just also out of time atm
21:17:23 <nirik> they have been broken for a series of reasons. ;(
21:17:33 <nirik> I am hopeful the one I started a bit ago will finally finish
21:17:34 <Yoda[m]> and is dnf5 fully used now in rawhide images ?
21:18:09 <nirik> it should be in the images, builds still use dnf 4 to populate the bootstrap and initial chroot...
21:18:33 <Yoda[m]> Ihave not been building any nightlies lately - waiting for dnf to be fully implemented
21:18:38 <nirik> (well, it should be once rawhide ever finishes, it's been broken for 3-4 days now)
21:19:06 <nirik> thats fair
21:19:28 <nirik> dnf5 hopefully will be nicer... but there's still a lot to be implented
21:19:38 <Yoda[m]> when is the last bits expected to change over ?
21:20:09 <Yoda[m]> yeah it is missing a lot of commands - some things are not easy right now
21:20:31 <nirik> There's a PR to install only dnf5 stuff in comps groups... not sure what else is outstanding.
21:21:08 <Yoda[m]> ok, I’ll just wait and see, to it settles
21:21:09 <nirik> #topic fedora mainline plans
21:21:22 <nirik> Yeah, I can let you know when rawhide ever composes.
21:21:37 <nirik> I've not tried mainline images lately either.
21:22:13 <Yoda[m]> not much new there. PT2 won’t work either - missing display driver
21:22:23 <nirik> I've gotten a bit depressed and how long it's been trying to upstream stuff for the pinephone*
21:23:23 <Yoda[m]> yeah, at least goes better for PPP - not much hope for PP unless Fedora would accept Megis patches
21:23:59 <nirik> even the ppp has a bunch that just never seems to go upstream. ;( Oh well.. someday we will have nice things. we can hope
21:24:06 <nirik> #topic All other business
21:24:12 <nirik> anything else to discuss today?
21:24:41 <Yoda[m]> at least for pt2 it is only the display driver and DT that is missing
21:25:41 <Yoda[m]> I don’t have anything - didn’t really have much time the last month to do anything
21:25:41 <nirik> Thats pretty impressive.
21:25:50 <nirik> how is the pt2? I haven't looked at it much
21:26:14 <nirik> yeah, time is a rare commodity for everyone these days it seems like.
21:26:22 <Yoda[m]> It’s based on Quartz64 - which is 99% upstream
21:26:54 <Yoda[m]> It is not super fast - but much faster than pt1 at least ;)
21:27:17 <nirik> yeah, I bet.
21:27:27 <Yoda[m]> and comes with 4-8GB ram which is a lot better
21:27:49 <nirik> huh, might be fun to play with... not that I have much time to...
21:27:53 <Yoda[m]> just no wifi driver :/
21:28:27 <Yoda[m]> everybode has to by an extra USB-wifi dongle for now
21:30:03 <Yoda[m]> I’ll try to patch the Fedora kernel with the 2 display patches - shouldn’t be hard - then it should be quite usefull
21:30:25 <nirik> nice. :)
21:30:33 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will just close out then...
21:30:41 <Yoda[m]> ok
21:32:02 <nirik> #endmeeting