15:06:33 <jkurik> #startmeeting Prioritized_bugs_and_issues
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15:06:41 <jkurik> #meetingname Fedora Prioritized bugs and issues
15:06:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_prioritized_bugs_and_issues'
15:06:50 <jkurik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
15:06:57 <jkurik> #info The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of bugs and
15:07:05 <jkurik> #info   issues found during the development, verification and use of Fedora distribution.
15:07:12 <jkurik> #info The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help
15:07:20 <jkurik> #info   contributors focus on the most important issues.
15:07:27 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/Prioritized_bugs_and_issues_-_the_process
15:07:35 <jkurik> #info Currently we have 1 proposed bugs for evaluation and 4 bugs already approved for review.
15:07:43 <jkurik> #topic Roll Call
15:08:02 <jkurik> #chair jkurik mattdm sgallagh
15:08:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: jkurik mattdm sgallagh
15:08:09 <jkurik> do we have someone around today ?
15:08:12 <mattdm> hellow jkurik
15:08:18 <mattdm> hello I mean
15:08:25 <mattdm> I think sgallagh is busy
15:08:32 <jkurik> hi :)
15:08:34 <mattdm> and/or sick but still around being busy
15:08:45 <mattdm> probably a lot of scrambling for release
15:09:00 <mattdm> but we haven't done one of these in a while so at the very least let's the two of us go through things
15:09:01 <sgallagh> Yeah, I’m not up for this meeting today, sorry.
15:09:12 <jkurik> I am half sick as well, perhaps some sun eruptions or whatever
15:09:16 <mattdm> sgallagh: is no problem
15:09:18 <sgallagh> Probably headed to the doctor in a few.
15:09:26 <mattdm> sgallagh: ouch. okay. be well.
15:09:35 <jkurik> #topic Evaluation of bug #1367666: [Wayland] Stability is worse compared to X11 session due to intolerance for display server or gnome-shell crashes
15:09:36 <mattdm> jkurik: you good to go? :)
15:09:43 <sgallagh> (I think my daughter gave me her strep)
15:09:45 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1367666
15:10:20 <jkurik> #undo
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15:10:22 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1367666
15:11:23 <jkurik> mattdm: reading the comments you are +1 to have this as a prioritized bug, right ?
15:11:29 <mattdm> yeah.
15:11:46 <mattdm> My plan is to talk to RH desktop team management about it
15:12:06 <mattdm> I don't know if it can *stay* a prioritized bug because it's probably a 1-year-out kind of fix
15:12:13 <mattdm> because it's a big architectural change and a lot of work
15:12:26 <jkurik> yeah, I see
15:12:56 <mattdm> I don't want the prioritized bugs list to be cluttered up with Grand Ideas for Making the World Better
15:13:03 <mattdm> because I have lots of those. :)
15:13:27 <mattdm> We need this list to be more _tactical_ priorities that can be handled in a reasonable timeframe
15:13:38 <jkurik> proposed #agreed bug #1367666 has been approved as a Prioritized bug. Mattdm is going to talk to RH desktop team management to raise awarenes of this bug.
15:13:38 <mattdm> but all that said, let's put it on the list for now and I'll talk to the teams
15:13:46 <mattdm> +1
15:13:54 <mattdm> and it's only you and me to vote. :)
15:13:59 <jkurik> #agreed bug #1367666 has been approved as a Prioritized bug. Mattdm is going to talk to RH desktop team management to raise awarenes of this bug.
15:14:33 <jkurik> mattdm: do we want to do a review of the already approved bugs ? (the one above was the only one proposed)
15:14:56 <mattdm> jkurik: Is it keeping you from sleep and getting better?
15:15:02 <mattdm> because if so, we can defer.
15:15:27 <jkurik> mattdm: not really, I fine to do the review
15:15:34 <jkurik> thanks anyway
15:15:59 <jkurik> #topic Review of bug #1375468: [abrt] nautilus: nautilus_window_slot_get_allow_stop(): nautilus killed by SIGSEGV
15:16:06 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375468
15:16:40 <jkurik> We have a problem reproducing this bug
15:16:52 <mattdm> hmmm. no reproducers on F26 _or_ F27 beta?
15:17:01 <jkurik> We might IMO revisit our decision to keep this on the list
15:17:01 * mattdm looks at FAF
15:17:23 <mattdm> #link https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/reports/1311228/
15:17:41 <mattdm> hold on a second
15:17:46 <jkurik> ok
15:18:42 * mattdm looking for similar bugs in faf
15:19:23 * mattdm notes that FAF manages to have a pretty ui and still be confusing
15:21:01 <mattdm> Okay, I see a bunch of this on F25 but none on F26
15:21:13 <mattdm> I think we should close this and say "appears to be fixed in current release"
15:22:00 <jkurik> I was looking into dulicates and have not found anything usefull as well
15:22:06 <jkurik> so I am +1 to close
15:22:49 <bexelbie> sorry got called away - yes RN is my fault :P
15:22:57 <jkurik> #agreed As the bug seems to appear on F25 release only we are going to close it as CURRENT_RELEASE.
15:23:09 <jkurik> #topic Review of bug #1306992: PackageKit accumulate over 18GBytes of RPM packages in /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata and fill my root filesystem with unused RPM files
15:23:16 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1306992
15:23:54 <mattdm> jkurik: Did you get a response from hughsie?
15:24:29 <jkurik> mattdm: No
15:25:01 <mattdm> jkurik: I guess next step is to ping him more :)
15:25:17 <jkurik> mattdm: right
15:25:20 <mattdm> can you do that? and if you don't get an answer, let me know?
15:25:24 <mattdm> cc me on message
15:25:42 <jkurik> #action jkurik to ping hughsie on this issue even more and CC mattdm
15:25:55 <jkurik> #topic Review of bug #1336435: Require all other updates to be installed before allowing to start system upgrade
15:26:02 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1336435
15:26:32 <jkurik> mattdm: the same as before
15:27:02 <mattdm> and same person even.
15:27:08 <mattdm> okay, same response as before I guess
15:27:16 <jkurik> #action jkurik to ping rhughes on this issue even more and CC mattdm
15:27:21 <mattdm> thanks :)
15:27:36 <jkurik> #topic Review of bug #1385432: Dracut exhibits numerous AVC denied errors during cleanup, takes long time to power off
15:27:42 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1385432
15:29:26 * mattdm reading
15:29:51 <mattdm> okay, so. summary....
15:29:57 <mattdm> There was an attempted fix in selinux
15:30:01 <mattdm> That did not fix it.
15:30:08 <mattdm> SELinux team assigned it to dracut
15:30:22 <mattdm> Chris Murphy did further debugging
15:30:37 <mattdm> And dracut team based on that reassigned back to selinux
15:31:04 <mattdm> and then confusion
15:31:20 <jkurik> right, so I will ask lvrabec what he can do about it
15:32:33 <jkurik> proposed #action jkurik to check status with lvrabec to clarify the confusion what is causing the issue
15:32:45 <jkurik> mattdm: ok ^^^ ?
15:32:49 <mattdm> sounds good
15:32:57 <jkurik> #action jkurik to check status with lvrabec to clarify the confusion what is causing the issue
15:33:22 <mattdm> I'm not even sure that the current problems people are seeing are the same as the original bug
15:33:22 <mattdm> thanks jkurik!
15:33:22 <jkurik> and that is all
15:33:23 <jkurik> thanks mattdm
15:33:31 <jkurik> #endmeeting