14:05:58 #startmeeting Security Team Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Team_meetings 14:05:58 Meeting started Thu Mar 17 14:05:58 2016 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:05:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:05:58 The meeting name has been set to 'security_team_meeting_-_agenda:_https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/security_team_meetings' 14:06:01 #meetingname Fedora Security Team 14:06:01 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_security_team' 14:06:06 #topic Roll Call 14:06:09 * Sparks 14:06:10 * d-caf 14:06:18 * zoglesby 14:06:57 .hellomynameis pjp 14:06:59 pjp: pjp 'None' 14:07:15 * Astradeus 14:10:07 Okay, lets get started 14:10:17 #info Participants are reminded to make liberal use of #info #link #help in order to make the minutes "more better" 14:10:23 #topic Fedora Security Team FAD 14:10:44 #info Sparks wrote up zoglesby's notes on the FAD 14:10:49 #link https://sparkslinux.wordpress.com/2016/03/16/security-team-post-fad-notes/ 14:11:03 Feel free to comment as necessary. 14:11:03 Sparks: Thanks much for a nice write-up! 14:11:15 thanks, haven't had a chance to read it just got the email 14:11:28 zoglesby: thanks for the notes! 14:13:49 nice writeup 14:14:02 I was the photographer of the lovely board pictures. 14:14:04 *sigh* 14:14:15 * Sparks didn't notice the glare when he was taking the photos 14:14:45 Sparks: I took a few pictures, I can send them your way if you want to compare 14:14:51 Sure 14:15:05 be later today 14:15:34 That's fine 14:16:09 From the notes, I think we need someone to work with Rel Eng to see what's possible. 14:16:31 #info We'd like private builds in Koji and private staging in Bodhi 14:17:02 #info Sparks would like to see some fail-safe in Bodhi that wouldn't allow the package to be shipped before the embargo has expired. 14:17:22 Sparks: supporting embargo builds? 14:17:34 dgilmore: Yes, we'd like to 14:17:46 Sparks: we need ways to hide the build in koji and bodhi, we need to be able to hide the commits to git 14:18:01 Sparks: its a lot of work on tools with almost no resources 14:18:11 dgilmore: Yes and I hadn't considered the git portion. 14:18:27 So in order to do it people will need to step up and work on things 14:18:29 dgilmore: Do you need person resources? 14:18:35 okay 14:18:38 a request for the feature will not be sufficient 14:18:54 dgilmore: Are these feature requests possible? 14:19:13 Sparks: they are possible. we have had tickets for some of them for years 14:19:18 there is no one to work on them 14:19:23 okay 14:19:36 so if you actually want it you will need to provide humans 14:19:51 #info dgilmore notes that the feature requests are possible but it'll take human resources that currently haven't stepped up. 14:20:42 sorry I was afk, lots of work stuff going on... 14:21:06 zoglesby: Pfft... it's FST time, everything else can wait! 14:21:20 dgilmore: Do you happen to have bug numbers for the existing feature requests? 14:22:50 Sparks: sorry I do not 14:23:04 I have not looked at tehm in years 14:23:54 dgilmore: That's fine. 14:24:56 Does anyone want to take on documenting and recruiting for this project? 14:26:07 anyone? 14:26:16 * Sparks eyes d-caf 14:26:22 Sparks: recruiting? 14:26:38 pjp: Yeah, trying to get the humans necessary to move this forwared 14:26:43 Sorry, work distraction 14:26:45 back 14:26:52 s/forwared/forward 14:26:58 Sparks: I could look for someone, 14:27:37 pjp: Sparks: I can try and sure out these old tickets as well 14:27:44 pjp: Okay, can you document the feature request, as well? 14:27:51 search/sure 14:27:53 Sparks: Okay, 14:28:15 Okay, pjp and d-caf, both of you work together on this. 14:28:24 pjp++ d-caf++ 14:28:24 Sparks: Karma for pjp changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:28:27 Sparks: Okay 14:28:29 d-caf++ 14:28:46 I don't think I'm part of the karma system :-( 14:28:58 d-caf: What's your FAS ID? 14:29:07 dcafaro 14:29:12 dcafaro++ 14:29:13 Sparks: Karma for dcafaro changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:29:20 There you go 14:29:32 Ah 14:29:45 I've got to go to a quick meeting be back in 15 14:30:33 #action pjp and d-caf to work on the feature requests for Koji and Bodhi for private builds for embargoed vulnerabilities. 14:30:44 Okay, anything else before we move on? 14:30:54 * pjp noted 14:31:48 #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 14:31:58 mhayden: Did you run your magic script today? 14:35:35 Okay, well I don't have numbers for today so we'll move on. 14:35:47 #topic Apprenticeship 14:35:49 i'd have numbers 14:36:00 #undo 14:36:00 Removing item from minutes: 14:36:07 +Tickets by Severity-+-------+---------+ 14:36:08 | Severity | Tickets | Owned | Unowned | 14:36:08 +----------+---------+-------+---------+ 14:36:08 | medium | 475 | 40 | 435 | 14:36:08 | low | 182 | 13 | 169 | 14:36:10 | high | 69 | 31 | 38 | 14:36:13 +----------+---------+-------+---------+ 14:36:22 Astradeus++ 14:36:22 Sparks: Karma for astra changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:36:42 cookies for everyone! 14:36:43 shall i also email the whole output? 14:36:47 zoglesby++ 14:36:48 Sparks: Karma for zoglesby changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:36:56 Astradeus: Yes please 14:37:09 Still no criticals... excellent. 14:37:17 Too many highs... not excellent 14:39:49 anyone want's to take me through a sec-bug-squashing process? ;) 14:40:47 Astradeus: Sure, can we do that after the meeting in #fedora-security-team? 14:40:57 Sparks: yey, sounds great :) 14:41:04 #topic Apprenticeship 14:41:24 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Team_Apprenticeship 14:41:48 If you haven't looked at this page since Friday afternoon take a look at it now. 14:42:01 I removed everything that was there and started anew 14:42:41 #info There are documentation opportunities if someone wants to do something 14:42:49 (look for the red links) 14:43:28 We also need to go through the existing training resources and figure out what kind of training we should be suggesting 14:44:43 that should be a topic for the list, as it will take time. 14:44:59 Agreed 14:45:05 zoglesby: Can you take it to the list? 14:45:11 sure thing 14:45:25 action me up! 14:45:46 #action zoglesby to take the Apprenticeship discussion to the list for further development 14:46:12 #topic Open floor discussion/questions/comments 14:46:14 Anyone have anything? 14:48:11 no? 14:48:35 not me 14:48:38 Okay, well, thanks to all who came and participated! Special thanks to our guest dgilmore! 14:48:51 Everyone have a good day! 14:48:56 #endmeeting