16:01:44 #startmeeting Fedora Sway SIG (2023-03-27) 16:01:44 Meeting started Mon Mar 27 16:01:44 2023 UTC. 16:01:44 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:01:44 The chair is alebastr[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:01:44 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:44 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_sway_sig_(2023-03-27)' 16:01:54 .hello alebastr 16:01:55 alebastr[m]: alebastr 'Aleksei Bavshin' 16:02:24 .hello jkonecny 16:02:27 jkonecny[m]: jkonecny 'Jiří Konečný' 16:03:23 #topic Progress and remaining items for f38 release 16:05:07 Not a lot of things here. Fale already mentioned that the main remaining item, sericea.fedoraproject.org, is in progress. 16:06:53 I've tagged sway-config-fedora 0.3.0 which supposed to be the last update until f38 release (unless I messed up and it's broken). Testing for https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-caf967e49d would be appreciated. 16:08:01 What remains is testing and review of the sericea-docs text. 16:08:40 I still want to do something about the NVIDIA 30xx status update... 16:09:05 Just layering it now 16:10:37 anything I forgot to mention? 16:10:47 It's a good time to come up with a completely release-blocking issue that we all missed :) 16:12:35 I dont know what constitutes a release block issue but there is a couple ootb problems I think would make sense to address. Waybar is still missing icons to my knowledge and the plymouth config is not used. 16:13:24 we're not doing anything to the config provided by waybar upstream. at least in this release :( 16:14:17 it was the plan, but things happened and now it's a bit too late to do all the necessary packaging updates 16:15:39 Yeah its not a huge issue its mostly cosmetic. I am not sure if its completely a config issue as packages on arch to my knowledge work with the default config. 16:17:41 Something about different default fonts, etc... 16:18:11 Yeah its probably a bit of a hassle to consider changing now 16:18:18 IMO, the only goal of the default waybar config is to encourage users to change it immediately :) 16:18:18 What about the plymouth config? 16:18:50 Haha, fair enough 16:20:33 I'll check if plymouth-system-theme is the only necessary change after work today. 16:21:22 Alright 16:21:39 Ill do a quick check now 16:22:53 you'll need to rebuild initrd to verify that. encryption prompt appears before the root filesystem is available, so it uses whatever was packed to the ramdisk during the kernel installation 16:24:45 Yeah I am doing that currently I am just making sure I am doing it right since its late and I dont want to brick anything 16:28:24 Yep that worked 16:30:25 Another thing I noticed while I am in the default system is that we dont have any of the standard home folders by default is this an intentional change? 16:30:43 jkonecny, Fale: I was planning to delete or archive all the fork repos we have in our gitlab namespace: comps, ostree, kickstarts, etc. The important changes are already merged and we're not going to use these forks. 16:31:44 agree 16:31:48 zekez[m]: oh. I knew I forgot about something. 16:33:18 Also rofi window mode support whats the information on that? It seems like from the rofi wayland repo it should be supported now 16:33:21 /etc/xdg/autostart/xdg-user-dirs.desktop should create the directories, but systemd ignores that because of X-GNOME-Autostart-Phase 16:34:58 zekez: it's not included in releases yet. I can apply the window patches to the package. 16:35:35 I thought 1.7.6 will be out by now :( 16:36:37 thats very odd the commit in their readme says it should be available https://github.com/lbonn/rofi/commit/5d4a3e14788945a9a1c7d18993151a3b00649373 but I guess that applies to dev then 16:36:51 alebastr[m]: is this something that can be fixed before release? 16:36:51 yep. that's only available in the dev branch 16:37:22 zekez[m]: yes, we should just run xdg-user-dirs-update from the config 16:37:29 alebastr[m]: its been in dev for a decent amount of time 16:37:59 its probably best to wait for release I guess 16:41:09 archive tool? probably out of scope for the release but I figure I should mention it as we also discussed if we should be keeping thunar in the default image what are your opinions on this currently? 16:42:37 is there even a good archive tool that is not tied to X11 or any desktop environment? 16:43:27 I'm going to admit that I haven't been using anything beyond tar and 7z for many years 16:44:34 I tend to use gui for archives a fair bit mainly for game modding it is just a bit more painful with tui tools. 16:45:43 ark or file roller should work pretty well but I dont think we found a way to change the thunar config? 16:45:47 I also tried peazip and that was abysmal on a tiling window manager 16:49:52 also default terminal in thunar 16:49:54 i still unpack with midnight commander sometimes 🤡 16:51:19 even thunar is there mostly because it implements org.freedesktop.FileManager1 and xdg-desktop-portal wants that 16:51:39 also just double checking the max audio issue and the pavucontrol-qt has been sorted? 16:52:52 sway-config-fedora update should address the audio issue. pavucontrol was switched in the classic spin images 16:52:56 for ostree there's a couple of pull requests I posted right before the meeting 16:53:04 cool 16:53:32 you won't be getting package set update on the already installed system automatically though 16:54:40 would it make sense to consider dolphin for default file management? I think the config can be changed seperately and it also intergrates with ark archive tool. 16:55:17 otherwise file-roller should be minimal to add for archive management its just adding the configs to thunar which seems to be an issue 16:56:12 * alebastr[m] tries to remember why we're not using dolphin 16:56:48 aside from the fact that it's KDE and brings a lot of kde framework dependencies, it could be a viable alternative 16:57:47 is there any other things you think need mention as the meeting should be coming to a close soon? 16:58:55 > * <@alebastr:fedora.im> tries to remember why we're not using dolphin 16:58:55 hamburger menus in dolphin are a little wonky 16:59:02 > * <@alebastr:fedora.im> tries to remember why we're not using dolphin 16:59:02 * hamburger menus in dolphin are a little wonky, thats just a current observation 16:59:03 I think thunar makes more sense but if it cant be configured that will be a pain 16:59:47 zekez: just need to thank you for all the feedback :) 16:59:47 You're reporting problems that we all missed 17:00:54 thanks 17:01:00 but now I have to close this meeting and run to work. my work meetings start in less than an hour 17:01:24 should be possible to configure thunar in ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc and change default terminal 17:01:41 I'll sort most of the TODOs later tonight or tomorrow 17:02:07 zekez[m]: yep that works 17:02:07 and I guess I'll have to tag sway-config-fedora 0.3.1 :'( 17:03:01 ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc 17:03:01 #endmeeting