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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-03-16)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-16/fesco.2010-03-16-19.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* init process  (nirik, 19:00:17)

* #353 provenpackager request for walters  (nirik, 19:02:24)
  * AGREED: walters approved for provenpackager  (nirik, 19:05:07)

* #352 Proposal: Fesco should have a procedure for removing members of
  fesco  (nirik, 19:05:30)
  * AGREED: the proposal passes with an amendent for the chair/current
    acting chair and  with a standard impeachment rule that the cause
    for the vote must be made explicit.  (pjones, 19:15:59)

* #354 Desktop Spin size change should get a feature page  (nirik,
  19:18:36)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DesktopLiveImageTarget
    (nirik, 19:19:57)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DesktopLiveImageTarget
    (Kevin_Kofler, 19:22:05)
  * AGREED: This late feature is approved. Please finish up the page and
    add it to the right categories/lists.  (nirik, 19:23:47)

* #346 Drop LSB package  (nirik, 19:24:17)
  * AGREED: This proposal is rejected.  (nirik, 19:27:48)
  * AGREED: FESCo asks FPC investigate a guideline against direct
    dependencies on redhat-lsb  (nirik, 19:29:57)
  * ACTION: notting will ask them to look into it.  (nirik, 19:30:11)

* #347 tor is not compliant with Fedora guidelines  (nirik, 19:30:20)
  * AGREED: FESCo will ask tor maintainer to not use install_initd and
    will see if FPC can codify scriptlet output issues.  (nirik,
    19:39:25)
  * ACTION: nirik will contact tor maintainer  (nirik, 19:41:44)
  * ACTION: ajax will talk to FPC about scriptlet output  (nirik,
    19:46:02)

* #355 Let rel-eng untag embryo from F-13 because it breaks the chain
  and upgrade path  (nirik, 19:46:16)
  * AGREED: FESCo will allow releg to untag this package for now,
    revisit this next week if there are still issues.  (nirik, 20:00:08)

* #348 Fedora Packaging Committee items for ratification (2010-02-24)
  (nirik, 20:00:28)
  * AGREED: Both guidelines changes are accepted.  (nirik, 20:03:30)

* Fedora Engineering Services Tickets/Updates.  (nirik, 20:03:46)

* #351 Create a policy for updates  (nirik, 20:05:52)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UpdatePolicy(draft)#notting.27s_Proposal
    (nirik, 20:06:42)
  * AGREED: Section 1 of the proposal is approved.  (nirik, 20:17:00)
  * LINK:
    http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched-20100316/logs/critpath.log
    (nirik, 20:25:16)
  * AGREED: Section 2 is Approved. Implementation details will need to
    be worked out for listing/noting important packages.  (nirik,
    20:29:17)
  * AGREED: Section 3 will not be entirely removed.  (nirik, 20:32:18)
  * AGREED: Section 3 + KevinK's Amendemnt B passes  (nirik, 20:52:27)
  * None of this will take effect until implementation is made and
    announced and ready.  (nirik, 20:53:28)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 20:59:07)
  * FESCo members will be voiced starting next meeting to help avoid
    confusion.  (nirik, 21:01:29)

Meeting ended at 21:04:45 UTC.




Action Items
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* notting will ask them to look into it.
* nirik will contact tor maintainer
* ajax will talk to FPC about scriptlet output




Action Items, by person
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* ajax
  * ajax will talk to FPC about scriptlet output
* nirik
  * nirik will contact tor maintainer
* notting
  * notting will ask them to look into it.
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (225)
* Kevin_Kofler (110)
* pjones (106)
* mjg59 (81)
* notting (80)
* skvidal (78)
* Oxf13 (76)
* ajax (58)
* cwickert (55)
* dgilmore (47)
* adamw (29)
* zodbot (15)
* thomasj_ (13)
* wwoods (10)
* abadger1999 (10)
* gholms (6)
* drago01 (6)
* mmcgrath (4)
* cassmodiah (3)
* EvilBob (2)
* Jeff_S (2)
* gholms|mbp (1)
* jlaska (1)




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