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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-02-27)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-27/fesco.2012-02-27-18.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* init process  (nirik, 18:00:01)

* #799 Issues with maintainer responsiveness (clamav)  (nirik, 18:02:30)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787434#c23 seems
    like a good reason not to rush changing things  (mitr, 18:04:32)
  * AGREED: close ticket and ask for reporter to reopen with a real
    violation, or with a specific use case (as opposed to a single
    configuration item) that is broken by this packaging  (nirik,
    18:16:06)

* #802 F17 Features - progress at Feature Freeze  (nirik, 18:16:25)
  * LINK: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2012-02/msg01219.html
    (nirik, 18:23:14)
  * ACTION: check on RealHotSpot / NMEnterprisenetworking and close
    ticket.  (nirik, 18:24:56)

* #803 Add johannbg to provenpackager explicitly to work on sysv2systemd
  conversion  (nirik, 18:25:32)
  * AGREED: The proposal doesn't pass.  (nirik, 18:44:22)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Features/SysVtoSystemd-F17
    (nirik, 18:45:55)

* #806 Request for exception for iptables and ip6tables to provide a
  small init script  (nirik, 18:47:25)
  * AGREED: ask FPC if we can add to systemd guidelines to allow for non
    standard service commands to continue to work in a systemd world.
    (nirik, 19:05:29)
  * ACTION: nirik to file a FPC ticket asking for them to look into
    this.  (nirik, 19:06:22)

* #810 Clarify our position on forks  (nirik, 19:06:51)
  * AGREED: forks are allowed provided they do not conflict or interfere
    with other packages. FPC may add additional guidelines to forks as
    they see fit"  (nirik, 19:21:38)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 19:21:47)
  * ACTION: limburgher will announce systemd migrations for f17 accepted
    until Beta, include link to BZ list and invite PP assistance.
    (limburgher, 19:27:57)
  * AGREED: for ibus (ticket 798): treat other cases (e.g. ibus running
    in en_US) as bugs, no FESCo decission necessary  (nirik, 19:36:12)
  * ACTION: notting to chair next week.  (nirik, 19:41:13)

Meeting ended at 19:41:22 UTC.




Action Items
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* check on RealHotSpot / NMEnterprisenetworking and close ticket.
* nirik to file a FPC ticket asking for them to look into this.
* limburgher will announce systemd migrations for f17 accepted until
  Beta, include link to BZ list and invite PP assistance.
* notting to chair next week.




Action Items, by person
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* limburgher
  * limburgher will announce systemd migrations for f17 accepted until
    Beta, include link to BZ list and invite PP assistance.
* nirik
  * nirik to file a FPC ticket asking for them to look into this.
* notting
  * notting to chair next week.
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * check on RealHotSpot / NMEnterprisenetworking and close ticket.




People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (135)
* mitr (61)
* mjg59 (51)
* sgallagh (51)
* pjones (36)
* notting (36)
* Viking-Ice (30)
* limburgher (25)
* t8m (19)
* zodbot (10)
* rbergeron (7)
* tibbs (4)
* drago01 (2)
* OzBorne (1)
* mmaslano (0)




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