18:00:23 <mmaslano> #startmeeting FESCO (2013-09-18)
18:00:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 18 18:00:23 2013 UTC.  The chair is mmaslano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:28 <mmaslano> #meetingname fesco
18:00:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
18:00:35 <mmaslano> #chair abadger1999 mattdm mitr mmaslano notting nirik pjones t8m sgallagh
18:00:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 mattdm mitr mmaslano nirik notting pjones sgallagh t8m
18:00:56 * nirik waves
18:01:17 <t8m> hello
18:01:30 <mitr> Hello
18:02:10 <mmaslano> that's 4
18:02:14 <mmaslano> abadger1999: ?
18:02:20 <mmaslano> matt didn't find wifi yet..
18:02:25 <mmaslano> nirik: ?
18:02:34 <mmaslano> pjones: ?
18:02:35 <mmaslano> sgallaghl: ?
18:02:41 <nirik> I'm here still. ;)
18:02:50 <abadger1999> sorry, /me is here
18:02:51 <mmaslano> but I count you the first time :)
18:02:51 * abadger1999 trying to kill a memory hogging process
18:03:05 <mmaslano> 5 is quorum right?
18:03:32 <abadger1999> yep
18:03:37 <mmaslano> #topic init process
18:04:14 <mmaslano> #topic #1173 provenpackager request
18:04:20 <mmaslano> .fesco 1173
18:04:21 <zodbot> mmaslano: #1173 (provenpackager request) – FESCo - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1173
18:05:31 <nirik> so, several folks wanted us to revisit this...
18:05:36 <mitr> I haven't been able to study this ticket, so I'm not voting today.
18:06:02 <mmaslano> nirik: I read mentioned bugs and email, but nothing extraordinary in my opinion
18:06:15 <mitr> (that's not to stop the discussion, but just to make it clear that we're not going to close it today if there's only 5 of us.)
18:06:38 <mmaslano> mitr: fine
18:06:46 <mmaslano> still people can discuss in the ticket
18:07:15 <nirik> I was hoping to see some recent bugs from cwickert1... I know there have been issues in the past, but I thought things had really improved.
18:07:46 <t8m> I did not change my mind - I would revoke only in case he misused the provenpackager privileges
18:08:10 <t8m> Although I agree that we rushed the vote too early
18:08:20 <nirik> so, since we can't decide here today, ask for any more info and revisit next week? or ?
18:08:27 <mmaslano> proposal: ask people who gave -1 to add evidence
18:08:40 <mmaslano> nirik: I'm also fine with your proposal
18:09:16 * nirik is fine with that too.
18:09:37 <cwickert1> nirik: I can give you some, hold on
18:09:52 <nirik> cwickert1: ok, in ticket too please?
18:10:13 <cwickert1> ok
18:10:15 <abadger1999> So it looks like there are two threads -- 1) not technically ready, 2) doubts as to rdieter's evaluation of dan being socially ready.
18:10:32 <abadger1999> I like add evidence for #1
18:10:44 <abadger1999> For #2 could we specifically ask wolfgang for his opinion?
18:10:58 <nirik> sure
18:11:02 <abadger1999> Cool.
18:11:13 * nirik thinks thats a good idea at least.
18:11:19 <mmaslano> I'll add it into ticket
18:12:08 <mmaslano> #agreed postpone to the next week. Evidence can added into the ticket for 1) not technically ready, 2) doubts as to rdieter's evaluation of dan being socially ready.
18:12:16 <mmaslano> fine?
18:12:41 <nirik> +1 here
18:12:52 <mmaslano> #topic Next week's chair
18:12:53 <abadger1999> +1
18:13:51 <nirik> I can take it if no one else can...
18:14:08 <t8m> I can
18:14:25 * nirik is happy to defer to t8m
18:15:07 <mmaslano> #action t8m will chair next meeting
18:15:16 <mmaslano> #topic Open Floor
18:17:03 <nirik> there's lots to discuss around working groups, etc, but without too many people here we should likely just wait
18:17:51 <mmaslano> yeah
18:18:03 <mmaslano> so I will close meeting in 5 minutes if noone has anything else
18:18:14 * abadger1999 is reminded that in reviewing scl stuff -- there's likely to be places where fesco may actually be in charge of the decision.
18:18:50 <abadger1999> I think I'll try to get fpc to do as much as possible and then ask fesco to review it in case there's anything that belongs to them policy-wise that they might like to change.
18:19:19 <mmaslano> seems fine to me
18:19:46 <abadger1999> or at least try to have specific questions for fesco to answer if fpc doesn't want to put forward a potential solution itself.
18:21:49 * abadger1999 has nothing else to mention
18:24:16 <mmaslano> #endmeeting