=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-04-23) =================================== Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-04-23/fesco.2014-04-23-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:08) * #1221 → Product working group activity reports (nirik, 17:04:17) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1221 (nirik, 17:04:17) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891 (nirik, 17:05:36) * working groups should note on the releng ticket changes they need/desire. (nirik, 17:05:51) * #1250 → F21 Self Contained Changes (nirik, 17:07:59) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1250 (nirik, 17:07:59) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1250#comment:18 (nirik, 17:08:37) * sgallagh was -1 for the remote journal change and +1 for all the rest (nirik, 17:09:05) * AGREED: all self contained changes proposed this week approved, except remote journal, we will work more with change owners and revisit next week. (+6,0,0) (nirik, 17:22:50) * #1287→ approve directory /opt/fedora (nirik, 17:23:07) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1287 (nirik, 17:23:08) * AGREED: This is approved (+6,0,0) (nirik, 17:24:49) * #1288 F21 System Wide Change: Changes/(A)Periodic Updates to (nirik, 17:25:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1288 (nirik, 17:25:25) * sgallagh was +1 in ticket (nirik, 17:27:04) * AGREED: change approved (+5,-1,0) (nirik, 17:37:55) * ACTION: mattdm to take this back to the cloud wg and ask for the communication with qa, releng, and security to get started _now_ (mattdm, 17:38:13) * #1289 F21 System Wide Change: Playground repository - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Playground_repository· (nirik, 17:38:18) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1289 (nirik, 17:38:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Playground_repository (nirik, 17:38:37) * LINK: https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf-plugins-core/blob/master/plugins/copr.py#L53 (nirik, 17:52:46) * AGREED: : change approved (+6,0,0) (nirik, 18:02:33) * #1290 F21 System Wide Change: Anaconda Support for Server Roles - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaServerRoleSupport (nirik, 18:02:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1290 (nirik, 18:02:44) * AGREED: This change is approved. (+7,0,0) (nirik, 18:07:10) * #1291 F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 (nirik, 18:07:27) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1291 (nirik, 18:07:27) * LINK: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/96336/39827674 (nirik, 18:12:47) * AGREED: ask the owner for clarification, and suggest that we need a plan that doesn't result in license violations by ommission (+5,0,0) (nirik, 18:19:42) * ACTION: mitr to talk to change owners about db6 (nirik, 18:20:00) * #1292 F21 System Wide Change: Cockpit Management Console - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CockpitManagementConsole (nirik, 18:20:15) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1292 (nirik, 18:20:16) * AGREED: change is approved, but instead of shifting schedule will allow this change to land later if needed. (+7,0,0) (nirik, 18:24:37) * #1293 F21 System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F21Make40 (nirik, 18:24:45) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1293 (nirik, 18:24:45) * AGREED: Change is approved (+7,0,0) (nirik, 18:26:54) * ACTION: dgilmore will followup about make change and make-devel subpackage needs (nirik, 18:28:00) * #1294 F21 System Wide Change: TCL/TK 8.6 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/f21tcl86 (nirik, 18:28:06) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1294 (nirik, 18:28:06) * AGREED: Change is approved (+7,0,0) (nirik, 18:29:39) * #1295 F21 System Wide Change: SCL - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SCL (nirik, 18:29:50) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1295 (nirik, 18:29:50) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/198242.html (nirik, 18:35:53) * AGREED: Change is accepted. change owner to update details based on feedback on list and discussion with releng (+6,0,0) (nirik, 18:42:40) * #1296 F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL (nirik, 18:42:55) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1296 (nirik, 18:42:55) * AGREED: Change is accepted. (+7,0,0) (nirik, 18:44:15) * #1297 F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Enable Software Collections - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Workstation_Enable_Software_Collections (nirik, 18:45:08) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1297 (nirik, 18:45:08) * LINK: https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/docs/quick-start/ (nirik, 18:51:45) * AGREED: ask for clarification, and... particularly, whether the approved change for _in_ Fedora software collections makes this moot (+5,-1,0) (nirik, 18:55:44) * #1298 F21 System Wide Change: The securetty file is empty by default - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/securetty_file_is_empty_by_default (nirik, 18:55:47) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1298 (nirik, 18:55:47) * ACTION: mattdm to ask for clarification on enable scls for workstation (nirik, 18:56:55) * AGREED: change is rejected (0,-7,0) (nirik, 18:58:02) * AGREED: counterproposal: Remove securetty from default PAM configuration and remove /etc/securetty, and note this in the release notes. (+6,0,0) (nirik, 18:59:52) * ACTION: mattdm to file bugs and talk to docs (nirik, 19:00:03) * #1299 F21 System Wide Change: Smaller Cloud Image Footprint - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Smaller_Cloud_Image_Footprint (nirik, 19:00:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1299 (nirik, 19:00:12) * AGREED: Change is approved (+7,0,0) (nirik, 19:05:08) * ACTION: mattdm to follow up on networkd with cloud wg (mattdm, 19:05:20) * #1300 F21 System Wide Change: Use license macro in RPMs for packages in Cloud Image - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Use_license_macro_in_RPMs_for_packages_in_Cloud_Image (nirik, 19:05:30) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1300 (nirik, 19:05:30) * AGREED: Change is approved (+7,0,0) (nirik, 19:06:52) * #1301 F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Workstation_Disable_Firewall (nirik, 19:08:22) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1301 (nirik, 19:08:23) * AGREED: Change is rejected (-5,+2,0) (nirik, 19:21:31) * #1286 New upstream version of dracut inappropriately pushed as stable release update, introduces major regression (nirik, 19:25:57) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1286 (nirik, 19:25:58) * AGREED: Fesco agrees this is not ok, needs to be fixed, needs determining what else might be broken, and should not be allowed to happen moving forward. (+6,0,0) (nirik, 19:42:43) * Next week's chair (nirik, 19:42:59) * dgilmore to chair next week (nirik, 19:44:11) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:44:18) Meeting ended at 19:53:58 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mattdm to take this back to the cloud wg and ask for the communication with qa, releng, and security to get started _now_ * mitr to talk to change owners about db6 * dgilmore will followup about make change and make-devel subpackage needs * mattdm to ask for clarification on enable scls for workstation * mattdm to file bugs and talk to docs * mattdm to follow up on networkd with cloud wg Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dgilmore * dgilmore will followup about make change and make-devel subpackage needs * mattdm * mattdm to take this back to the cloud wg and ask for the communication with qa, releng, and security to get started _now_ * mattdm to ask for clarification on enable scls for workstation * mattdm to file bugs and talk to docs * mattdm to follow up on networkd with cloud wg * mitr * mitr to talk to change owners about db6 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (258) * mattdm (115) * mitr (83) * jwb (74) * pjones (63) * dgilmore (62) * notting (52) * t8m (42) * adamw (28) * zodbot (24) * jreznik_q10 (11) * jreznik (8) * twoerner (5) * patsy (1) * smooge (1) * randomuser (1) * sgallagh (0) * abadger1999 (0) * mmaslano (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot