15:00:20 <sgallagh> #startmeeting FESCO (2019-08-05)
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15:00:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco_(2019-08-05)'
15:00:20 <sgallagh> #meetingname fesco
15:00:20 <sgallagh> #chair nirik, ignatenkobrain, jforbes, zbyszek, bookwar, sgallagh, contyk, mhroncok, otaylor
15:00:20 <sgallagh> #topic init process
15:00:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
15:00:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: bookwar contyk ignatenkobrain jforbes mhroncok nirik otaylor sgallagh zbyszek
15:00:27 <contyk> .hello psabata
15:00:28 <zodbot> contyk: psabata 'Petr Šabata' <psabata@redhat.com>
15:00:28 <nirik> .hello kevin
15:00:29 <jforbes> .hello2
15:00:31 <zodbot> nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' <kevin@scrye.com>
15:00:31 <sgallagh> .hello2
15:00:33 <otaylor> .hello2
15:00:34 <zodbot> jforbes: jforbes 'Justin M. Forbes' <jforbes@redhat.com>
15:00:37 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com>
15:00:40 <zodbot> otaylor: otaylor 'Owen Taylor' <otaylor@redhat.com>
15:00:45 <mhroncok> hey!
15:00:59 <sgallagh> I wasn't sure we'd get quorum today, but hey, here we are :)
15:01:01 <zbyszek> .hello2
15:01:02 <zodbot> zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>
15:02:03 <zbyszek> We are here, but there's no agenda!
15:02:11 <sgallagh> So, we have no formal agenda for today, as all tickets are either resolved, non-controversial or awaiting information,.
15:02:33 <ignatenkobrain> .hello2
15:02:33 <sgallagh> But I figured I'd open us up to Open Floor for a bit
15:02:33 <zodbot> ignatenkobrain: ignatenkobrain 'Igor Gnatenko' <i.gnatenko.brain@gmail.com>
15:02:55 <sgallagh> #info No agenda today
15:03:00 <sgallagh> #topic Open Floor
15:03:15 <jforbes> Are we going to cancel next week? I know I will be travelling
15:03:34 <sgallagh> I will also be traveling that day.
15:03:42 <zbyszek> I'll be back after Flock already I think.
15:03:43 * nirik also
15:04:33 <ignatenkobrain> I'll be back from Flock, but I might not have much time
15:05:13 <sgallagh> nirik: also which?
15:05:25 <nirik> I will also be traveling next monday and unavailable for meeting.
15:06:21 <zbyszek> Sounds like we should cancel.
15:06:37 <sgallagh> Yeah, that's already four that are probably unavailable
15:07:26 <mhroncok> I will be available, but I would welcome a free day
15:07:39 <sgallagh> OK, that's five voices to cancel.
15:07:58 <sgallagh> #agreed FESCo meeting on 2019-08-12 is canceled
15:08:06 <sgallagh> #topic Next Meeting Chair
15:08:16 <zbyszek> I can, haven't done in a while.
15:08:18 <sgallagh> Who wants the job on the 19th? I can do it again if preferred.
15:08:28 <sgallagh> OK, have at it
15:08:34 <zbyszek> Ack.
15:08:46 <sgallagh> #action zbyszek to chair 2019-08-12 FESCo meeting.
15:08:51 <sgallagh> Any other topics?
15:09:03 <mhroncok> the new nonresponsive maintainer policy
15:09:13 <mhroncok> it is blocked on the bugzilla template, there is one thing to decide
15:09:26 <mhroncok> see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1731835#c1
15:10:16 * sgallagh doesn't have a preference
15:10:33 <mhroncok> I think we are good with 1), but please have a look and state your opinion in case you **strongly** disagree
15:11:13 <mhroncok> refuse the temptation to bikeshed :D
15:11:27 <mhroncok> EOF
15:11:44 <ignatenkobrain> do we know how "widget" would look like?
15:12:25 <jforbes> either way works for me
15:12:29 <zbyszek> I assumed that like the normal drop-down box with js completion.
15:12:35 * nirik is fine with whatever there
15:13:17 <ignatenkobrain> as long as it is easy to find and easy to use, I'm fine. If widget would look horrible, I would go with #2
15:13:35 <mhroncok> ignatenkobrain: if it turns out to be horrible, we can always revisit and change for 2
15:15:31 <zbyszek> Anything else?
15:15:44 <ignatenkobrain> https://flock2019.sched.com/event/SJve/meet-your-fesco
15:15:47 <ignatenkobrain> don't forget to stop by :)
15:16:09 <sgallagh> I'll be there!
15:16:16 <sgallagh> (Consider yourself warned)
15:16:21 <nirik> oh, the schedule is out... good.
15:18:44 <mbooth> "everything in Fedora is using this one "product"" <- Aren't modular RPMs in a different product?
15:19:04 <sgallagh> yes
15:19:07 <nirik> nope..
15:19:26 <nirik> well, sorta nope...
15:19:36 <nirik> they are also components under the Fedora Modular product
15:19:44 <nirik> like rpms are components under Fedora
15:20:20 <mhroncok> that means yes
15:21:27 <nirik> sure, yes then.
15:23:35 <mbooth> Can the non-responsive maintainer process be executed against a module owner?
15:24:02 <mbooth> (Sorry to barge in, I was dropping some eaves)
15:24:13 <zbyszek> Good point.
15:24:25 <sgallagh> Hmm, I lied. I won't be at the FESCo session; apparently I booked a 2pm return flight on Sunday.
15:24:39 <nirik> or containers...
15:25:32 <zbyszek> We need to reuse the same procedure here as for packages.
15:26:07 <sgallagh> zbyszek: I think the relevant question there was: should we use a new Product for this, because it needs to account for both RPMs and modules (and containers)
15:26:30 <zbyszek> We should be able to just specify a different Product.
15:27:40 <zbyszek> In the sense of having an alternative URL in the text (or https://beta-bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=Unresponsive%20Maintainer
15:27:50 <zbyszek> sorry
15:28:15 <zbyszek> ... https://beta-bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora%20Modular&component=Unresponsive%20Maintainer ...
15:28:35 <nirik> sure, as long as the template exists for those
15:31:27 <zbyszek> OK, it seems that the existing template doesn't work for Fedora Modular.
15:31:46 <zbyszek> We'll ask for it to be created in the bug.
15:31:52 <zbyszek> https://beta-bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora%20Modules&component=Unresponsive%20Maintainer
15:31:53 <mhroncok> ok
15:32:54 <zbyszek> We'll figure it out.
15:33:11 <sgallagh> ok
15:33:22 <sgallagh> Any further topics?
15:34:28 <nirik> oh... quickly...
15:34:54 <nirik> just want to remind folks about koji build archiving. I will try and keep it to off hours/weekends, but it might result in some slowness on koji's part...
15:38:06 * nirik has nothing more
15:38:12 <sgallagh> OK, going once?
15:38:40 <mhroncok> set us freeee
15:39:00 <sgallagh> #endmeeting