15:00:20 #startmeeting FESCO (2019-08-05) 15:00:20 Meeting started Mon Aug 5 15:00:20 2019 UTC. 15:00:20 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:20 The chair is sgallagh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco_(2019-08-05)' 15:00:20 #meetingname fesco 15:00:20 #chair nirik, ignatenkobrain, jforbes, zbyszek, bookwar, sgallagh, contyk, mhroncok, otaylor 15:00:20 #topic init process 15:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco' 15:00:20 Current chairs: bookwar contyk ignatenkobrain jforbes mhroncok nirik otaylor sgallagh zbyszek 15:00:27 .hello psabata 15:00:28 contyk: psabata 'Petr Šabata' 15:00:28 .hello kevin 15:00:29 .hello2 15:00:31 nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' 15:00:31 .hello2 15:00:33 .hello2 15:00:34 jforbes: jforbes 'Justin M. Forbes' 15:00:37 sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' 15:00:40 otaylor: otaylor 'Owen Taylor' 15:00:45 hey! 15:00:59 I wasn't sure we'd get quorum today, but hey, here we are :) 15:01:01 .hello2 15:01:02 zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' 15:02:03 We are here, but there's no agenda! 15:02:11 So, we have no formal agenda for today, as all tickets are either resolved, non-controversial or awaiting information,. 15:02:33 .hello2 15:02:33 But I figured I'd open us up to Open Floor for a bit 15:02:33 ignatenkobrain: ignatenkobrain 'Igor Gnatenko' 15:02:55 #info No agenda today 15:03:00 #topic Open Floor 15:03:15 Are we going to cancel next week? I know I will be travelling 15:03:34 I will also be traveling that day. 15:03:42 I'll be back after Flock already I think. 15:03:43 * nirik also 15:04:33 I'll be back from Flock, but I might not have much time 15:05:13 nirik: also which? 15:05:25 I will also be traveling next monday and unavailable for meeting. 15:06:21 Sounds like we should cancel. 15:06:37 Yeah, that's already four that are probably unavailable 15:07:26 I will be available, but I would welcome a free day 15:07:39 OK, that's five voices to cancel. 15:07:58 #agreed FESCo meeting on 2019-08-12 is canceled 15:08:06 #topic Next Meeting Chair 15:08:16 I can, haven't done in a while. 15:08:18 Who wants the job on the 19th? I can do it again if preferred. 15:08:28 OK, have at it 15:08:34 Ack. 15:08:46 #action zbyszek to chair 2019-08-12 FESCo meeting. 15:08:51 Any other topics? 15:09:03 the new nonresponsive maintainer policy 15:09:13 it is blocked on the bugzilla template, there is one thing to decide 15:09:26 see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1731835#c1 15:10:16 * sgallagh doesn't have a preference 15:10:33 I think we are good with 1), but please have a look and state your opinion in case you **strongly** disagree 15:11:13 refuse the temptation to bikeshed :D 15:11:27 EOF 15:11:44 do we know how "widget" would look like? 15:12:25 either way works for me 15:12:29 I assumed that like the normal drop-down box with js completion. 15:12:35 * nirik is fine with whatever there 15:13:17 as long as it is easy to find and easy to use, I'm fine. If widget would look horrible, I would go with #2 15:13:35 ignatenkobrain: if it turns out to be horrible, we can always revisit and change for 2 15:15:31 Anything else? 15:15:44 https://flock2019.sched.com/event/SJve/meet-your-fesco 15:15:47 don't forget to stop by :) 15:16:09 I'll be there! 15:16:16 (Consider yourself warned) 15:16:21 oh, the schedule is out... good. 15:18:44 "everything in Fedora is using this one "product"" <- Aren't modular RPMs in a different product? 15:19:04 yes 15:19:07 nope.. 15:19:26 well, sorta nope... 15:19:36 they are also components under the Fedora Modular product 15:19:44 like rpms are components under Fedora 15:20:20 that means yes 15:21:27 sure, yes then. 15:23:35 Can the non-responsive maintainer process be executed against a module owner? 15:24:02 (Sorry to barge in, I was dropping some eaves) 15:24:13 Good point. 15:24:25 Hmm, I lied. I won't be at the FESCo session; apparently I booked a 2pm return flight on Sunday. 15:24:39 or containers... 15:25:32 We need to reuse the same procedure here as for packages. 15:26:07 zbyszek: I think the relevant question there was: should we use a new Product for this, because it needs to account for both RPMs and modules (and containers) 15:26:30 We should be able to just specify a different Product. 15:27:40 In the sense of having an alternative URL in the text (or https://beta-bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=Unresponsive%20Maintainer 15:27:50 sorry 15:28:15 ... https://beta-bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora%20Modular&component=Unresponsive%20Maintainer ... 15:28:35 sure, as long as the template exists for those 15:31:27 OK, it seems that the existing template doesn't work for Fedora Modular. 15:31:46 We'll ask for it to be created in the bug. 15:31:52 https://beta-bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora%20Modules&component=Unresponsive%20Maintainer 15:31:53 ok 15:32:54 We'll figure it out. 15:33:11 ok 15:33:22 Any further topics? 15:34:28 oh... quickly... 15:34:54 just want to remind folks about koji build archiving. I will try and keep it to off hours/weekends, but it might result in some slowness on koji's part... 15:38:06 * nirik has nothing more 15:38:12 OK, going once? 15:38:40 set us freeee 15:39:00 #endmeeting