15:00:22 <contyk> #startmeeting FESCO (2019-09-16)
15:00:22 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Sep 16 15:00:22 2019 UTC.
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15:00:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco_(2019-09-16)'
15:00:24 <contyk> #meetingname fesco
15:00:24 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
15:00:26 <contyk> #chair nirik, ignatenkobrain, jforbes, zbyszek, bookwar, sgallagh, contyk, mhroncok, otaylor
15:00:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: bookwar contyk ignatenkobrain jforbes mhroncok nirik otaylor sgallagh zbyszek
15:00:28 <contyk> #topic init process
15:00:30 <zbyszek> .hello2
15:00:31 <zodbot> zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>
15:00:32 <sgallagh> .hello2
15:00:34 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com>
15:00:35 <jforbes> .hello2
15:00:36 <contyk> .hello psabata
15:00:37 <zodbot> jforbes: jforbes 'Justin M. Forbes' <jforbes@redhat.com>
15:00:40 <zodbot> contyk: psabata 'Petr Šabata' <psabata@redhat.com>
15:00:52 <nirik> morning
15:00:57 <nirik> .hello kevin
15:00:58 <zodbot> nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' <kevin@scrye.com>
15:01:03 <bcotton> .hello2
15:01:04 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
15:01:08 <bookwar> .hello2
15:01:09 <zodbot> bookwar: bookwar 'Aleksandra Fedorova' <alpha@bookwar.info>
15:01:35 <otaylor> .hello2
15:01:35 <zodbot> otaylor: otaylor 'Owen Taylor' <otaylor@redhat.com>
15:01:45 <mhroncok> hello
15:02:05 <sgallagh> First time we've had the whole FESCo here in a while
15:02:18 <sgallagh> oh wait, ignatenkobrain isn't here
15:02:20 <contyk> not everyone is here
15:02:40 <contyk> it might be a short meeting today
15:02:54 <zbyszek> Too bad we have just one scrawny ticket to share ;)
15:03:07 <contyk> I'll just repeat jibec[m]'s request; if there's anyone for the l10n meeting here, head over to #fedora-meeting-2
15:03:26 <bookwar> or stay and have fun with us
15:03:32 <contyk> #topic #2223 gdesklets : exception to continue using python2
15:03:37 <contyk> .fesco 2223
15:03:38 <zodbot> contyk: Issue #2223: gdesklets : exception to continue using python2 - fesco - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2223
15:03:39 <zbyszek> There's also blocker bug review meeting concurrent?
15:03:52 <zbyszek> mhroncok and I voted in the ticket...
15:03:55 <nirik> thats after the qa meeting...
15:04:08 <sgallagh> zbyszek: That's in one hour, I think
15:04:53 <bcotton> zbyszek: sgallagh correct
15:04:54 <sgallagh> So on this, I'm pretty convinced that we don't want to carry those packages anymore
15:05:03 <sgallagh> So I'm -1 to the exception
15:05:16 <sgallagh> (Would have voted in the ticket, but I'm still getting caught up)
15:05:16 <contyk> yeah, based on zbyszek's comments, -1
15:05:20 <nirik> yeah, it looks like a pretty big pile of things... -1
15:05:42 <jforbes> Yup, it doesn't look like there is a plan to transition
15:05:45 <jforbes> -1
15:06:09 <otaylor> I agree on -1 ... pygtk is not a simple/small package to keep around
15:06:26 <contyk> bookwar: ?
15:06:30 <bookwar> also -1
15:06:42 <bookwar> zbyszek said it all in the comment
15:07:04 <contyk> #agreed The request is rejected (+0, 0, -8)
15:07:26 <contyk> so, well, that was it...
15:07:30 <mhroncok> otaylor: note that pygtk2 will mos tlikely be kept around
15:07:30 <contyk> #topic Next week's chair
15:07:50 <contyk> there wasn't much so I can do this again next week
15:07:59 <contyk> unless there are other volunteers
15:08:11 <zbyszek> I'm not sure if I'll make it, 'cause AllSystemdGo2019
15:08:48 <contyk> okay then
15:08:56 <contyk> #action contyk will chair next meeting
15:09:06 <contyk> #topic Open Floor
15:09:07 <sgallagh> I have an item for Open Floor
15:09:11 <sgallagh> .bug 1752249
15:09:12 <contyk> good
15:09:13 <zodbot> sgallagh: 1752249 – Revert skip_if_unavailable default back to to true - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1752249
15:09:38 <sgallagh> We voted to revert this, so shall we treat it as a "FESCo Blocker"?
15:09:49 <mhroncok> yes please
15:09:54 <contyk> yes
15:10:11 <sgallagh> I assumed so, but since I had the opportunity to ask before that meeting, I figured it would be wise to do so
15:10:27 <zbyszek> +1 for fesco blocker
15:10:33 * nirik is a bit concerned we haven't heard anything from dnf folks about this...
15:11:05 <sgallagh> nirik: They replied on that BZ this morning
15:11:06 <bcotton> nirik: they commented on the bz this morning: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1752249#c1
15:11:09 <mhroncok> the comment in the bz seems thay are working on this
15:11:10 <nirik> ah, ok.
15:11:23 <sgallagh> They're working on a patch to allow distros to specify the preferred default in dnf.conf
15:11:26 <sgallagh> Rather than hard-coding it
15:11:29 * nirik has tried catching up on bugzilla in his sleep... but man, the nightmares.
15:11:40 <nirik> excellent.
15:11:48 <mhroncok> do we need to vote on the blocker?
15:12:04 <contyk> I'd say no
15:12:12 <jforbes> I wouldn't think so
15:12:17 <contyk> we voted to revert the change
15:12:17 <mhroncok> ok, I have a topic
15:12:47 <contyk> go ahead
15:12:48 <mhroncok> .fesco 2213
15:12:49 <zodbot> mhroncok: Issue #2213: Nonresponsive maintainer: Eric Smith brouhaha - fesco - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2213
15:13:15 <mhroncok> so I've processed this and probably was tired or whatnot, but it desn't actually follow the policy
15:13:52 <mhroncok> I don't think that reverting the admin rights I gave to tachoknight makes any sense
15:14:27 <mhroncok> so I think it should just be closed as invalid, but the change in acls should stay permanent. any objections?
15:14:38 <zbyszek> Yeah, that seems most reasonable.
15:14:38 <jforbes> I don't have a problem with that
15:14:48 <nirik> that seems fine.
15:15:03 <mhroncok> done, thanks
15:15:26 <contyk> yeah, sounds good to me
15:15:32 <sgallagh> wfm
15:16:11 <contyk> cool; anything else for the open floor?
15:17:15 <contyk> alright then
15:17:15 <nirik> Thanks to everyone who worked on a ontime Beta (released tomorrow)
15:17:26 <contyk> +1
15:17:30 <contyk> #endmeeting