15:00:15 #startmeeting FESCO (2020-03-09) 15:00:15 Meeting started Mon Mar 9 15:00:15 2020 UTC. 15:00:15 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:15 The chair is mhroncok. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:15 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco_(2020-03-09)' 15:00:22 #meetingname fesco 15:00:22 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco' 15:00:33 #chair nirik, ignatenkobrain, decathorpe, zbyszek, bookwar, sgallagh, contyk, mhroncok, dcantrell 15:00:33 Current chairs: bookwar contyk dcantrell decathorpe ignatenkobrain mhroncok nirik sgallagh zbyszek 15:00:39 morning 15:00:40 .hello psabata 15:00:41 #topic init process 15:00:41 contyk: psabata 'Petr Šabata' 15:00:42 .hello2 15:00:44 sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' 15:00:44 .hello2 15:00:46 zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' 15:01:05 .hello2 15:01:06 dcantrell: dcantrell 'David Cantrell' 15:01:07 that's a quorum 15:01:15 .hello2 15:01:15 decathorpe: decathorpe 'Fabio Valentini' 15:01:59 .hello2 15:02:00 bookwar: bookwar 'Aleksandra Fedorova' 15:03:02 #topic #2345 Nonresponsive maintainer: Dervim Gündüz (devrim) 15:03:12 .fesco 2345 15:03:14 mhroncok: Issue #2345: Nonresponsive maintainer: Dervim Gündüz (devrim) - fesco - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2345 15:04:14 so, here I probably misunderstood the maintainer. but he has all the information to claim any packages back. if tehy don't do that in 6 weeks, I guess they really are not very responsive 15:04:59 thoughts? 15:05:31 their comment was 5 days ago? 15:05:32 mhroncok: Are they still a comaintainer? 15:05:33 yep, devrim has only provided one comment. 15:05:42 "keep me as co-maintainer" sounds like "I don't want to be main maintainer anymore" to me 15:05:44 Or did we remove them entirely? 15:05:48 sgallagh: yes, on orpahnd packages 15:05:54 ok 15:06:02 Then I don't really see anything for us to do 15:06:15 proposal: close as accepted, do nothing 15:06:23 +1 15:06:24 +1 15:06:25 +1 15:06:28 +1 15:06:37 +1 15:06:48 +1. if they want to take the packages back, they just need to click the "Take" button ... 15:06:55 decathorpe: yes 15:07:00 bookwar: ? 15:07:35 #agree APPROVED (+7, 0, -0) 15:07:36 might note for the record where the take button is. ;) 15:07:46 #info close as accepted, do nothing 15:07:47 (in case they just aren't sure) 15:08:03 #action mhroncok to note how to take a package in the ticket 15:08:10 #topic Next week's chair 15:08:26 I can do it. 15:08:30 Haven't in a while. 15:08:43 #action zbyszek to chair next week's meeting 15:08:51 #topic Open Floor 15:09:18 who wants the floor? 15:09:33 How are we doing on the front of making upgrades to F32 work smoothly? 15:09:43 getting there. 15:09:49 zbyszek: there are some unfixed blockers 15:10:07 zbyszek: namely resetting default streams via packagekit 15:10:57 #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ 15:10:58 isn't "dnf system-upgrade" the only supported upgrade method? 15:11:15 decathorpe: No 15:11:16 decathorpe: no, also the graphical upgrade should work. 15:11:24 The GNOME Software approach is also supported 15:11:35 i thought gnome-software is using dnf system-upgrade under the hood :/ 15:11:45 decathorpe: it uses PackageKit 15:11:46 Of course not! 15:11:50 mhroncok: there's a working set of dnf/dnf-plugins now for that 15:12:04 Though there are medium-term plans to replace PackageKit with a daemon built and maintained by DNF 15:12:12 nirik: ORLY? 15:12:29 There was a big discussion on fedora-devel... "DNF 5". 15:12:31 for the module reset... adamw has been hacking on it. ;) 15:12:42 and he seem to figured it out 15:12:44 zbyszek: That may have happened when I was on vacation 15:13:00 I declared email bankruptcy. I'll go read back. 15:13:08 OK, I wanted to raise the subject, but it seems things are going in the right direction. 15:13:38 sgallagh: yeah, see the end of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767351 15:13:41 Once we add more python2 packages to fedora-obsolete-packages, we should be pretty good on the upgrade path. 15:13:46 Thank you 15:14:03 zbyszek: feel free to send me a list 15:14:23 mhroncok: OK. 15:14:43 ± a few updates that are in f31 and f33 but missing from f32 15:14:46 I have updated the list pragmatically, but it misses packages that don't actually require python2 directly (such as wxPython-devel etc.) 15:15:07 zbyszek: also, the postgresql 12 change seem to be not actually done 15:15:47 will try to open a blocker for that 15:15:48 * zbyszek upgraded to F32 yesterday and is very happy so far 15:16:15 ok... anything else? or I will give you free time 15:16:32 Not from me. 15:17:04 #info I will send the meeting minutes later in the evening, I am not on a good connection 15:17:16 ending in ~1 minute 15:17:18 mhroncok: I see postgresql-12.2-1.fc32 here... 15:17:27 zbyszek: but nothign has beenr ebuilt 15:17:30 been rebuilt 15:17:49 Oh. 15:17:54 can confirm. 15:18:18 stuff still requires postgresql 11, and now has broken dependencies 15:18:39 :( 15:18:55 exactly 15:19:33 #action #mhroncok to open "Revert to PostgreSQL 11 or rebuilt dependent packages with 12" bug and request a blocker status 15:19:37 #undo 15:19:37 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by mhroncok at 15:19:33 : #mhroncok to open "Revert to PostgreSQL 11 or rebuilt dependent packages with 12" bug and request a blocker status 15:19:41 #action mhroncok to open "Revert to PostgreSQL 11 or rebuilt dependent packages with 12" bug and request a blocker status 15:20:00 mhroncok: Report it as "multiple packages have broken dependencies due to PSQL 12" 15:20:10 Rather than dictating the courses of action 15:20:12 Also s/rebuilt/rebuild/ 15:20:22 #undo 15:20:22 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by mhroncok at 15:19:41 : mhroncok to open "Revert to PostgreSQL 11 or rebuilt dependent packages with 12" bug and request a blocker status 15:20:46 #action mhroncok to open "Multiple packages have broken dependencies due to PostgreSQL 12" bug and request a blocker status 15:20:51 sgallagh: ack? 15:21:20 ack 15:21:37 * mhroncok contacted the change owner trough e-mail and tracking BZ, but so far no reply 15:22:02 anyway, will end the meeting now-ish 15:22:42 affects: orafce, pgRouting, pgaudit, phsphere, postgis, postgres-decoderbufs, postgres-ip4r, postgresql-pgpool-II-extensions, postgresql-plruby, rdkit-postgresql, rhdb-utils, timescaledb. just for reference 15:23:16 #endmeeting