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#fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2020-06-15)
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Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-06-15/fesco.2020-06-15-15.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* init process  (contyk, 15:00:33)

* Welcome new FESCo members & Meeting time  (contyk, 15:02:15)
  * The new meeting time is Wednesday, 1400 UTC, starting June 24.
    (contyk, 15:18:33)

* Council Engineering Representative  (contyk, 15:21:17)
  * LINK:
    https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fedora_Council_Engineering_Rep/
    (contyk, 15:21:33)
  * contyk will step down from the Council Engineering representative
    position; FESCo will process the nominations in #2405 over the next
    week.  (contyk, 15:24:20)

* #2400 F34 System-Wide Change: NSS CK_GCM_PARAMS change  (contyk,
  15:24:55)
  * AGREED: FESCo asks rrelyea to rephrase the request and add details
    about the expected impact, particularly on rebuilds and revisit in a
    week (+8, 0, -0)  (contyk, 15:34:38)

* What is the scope of Modularity?  (contyk, 15:35:03)
  * AGREED: Modular-only packages are not allowed and modular versions
    are only be allowed as alternatives to non-modular packages. (+9, 0,
    -0)  (contyk, 15:58:47)
  * There is an exception to this rule: if the package does not function
    in non-modular Fedora (with reasonable amount of work), it is
    permitted to have it in module only. As an example if non-modular
    Fedora has dnf 4, and there is module with dnf 5, a package that
    only works with dnf 5 can remain modular only, until dnf 5 is
    included in non-modular Fedora. For the time being, such  (contyk,
    15:58:54)
  * AGREED: Default streams are not allowed in Fedora. This may be
    revised in the future, especially if the functionality of default
    streams is improved. (+9, 0, -0)  (contyk, 16:00:26)
  * AGREED: Encourage compatibility packages rather than modules
    wherever reasonable (e.g., libraries, language interpreters, …, and
    anything that can benefit from parallel installability). (+9, 0, -0)
    (contyk, 16:02:07)
  * AGREED: Make *modular*.repo optional by splitting them into a
    separate package. (+8, 1, -0)  (contyk, 16:03:24)
  * AGREED: Disable *modular*.repo by default in new installations. (2,
    0, -7)  (contyk, 16:04:58)
  * Modular repo will remain enabled.  (contyk, 16:05:05)
  * AGREED: Defer to the next meeting. Meanwhile sgallagh will work on
    improving policy for those modules with feedback from FESCo members.
    (+9, 0, -0)  (contyk, 16:52:36)
  * LINK:
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/EJD3V43ONMVE37DQO6RVQ5ZGN6PJXDBC/
    is the case on fedora-devel today.  (zbyszek, 16:52:38)

* Next week's chair  (contyk, 16:52:56)
  * ACTION: ignatenkobrain will chair the next meeting.  (contyk,
    16:53:25)

* Open Floor  (contyk, 16:53:32)
  * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/ is not getting
    updated.  (zbyszek, 16:55:06)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8964   (bcotton,
    16:56:54)

Meeting ended at 16:59:24 UTC.




Action Items
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* ignatenkobrain will chair the next meeting.




Action Items, by person
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* ignatenkobrain
  * ignatenkobrain will chair the next meeting.
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* mhroncok (153)
* sgallagh (120)
* contyk (107)
* zbyszek (70)
* nirik (57)
* King_InuYasha (54)
* ignatenkobrain (51)
* dcantrell (49)
* zodbot (34)
* cverna (30)
* decathorpe (28)
* bookwar (21)
* bcotton (9)
* Conan_Kudo (0)
* Eighth_Doctor (0)
* Sir_Gallantmon (0)
* Son_Goku (0)
* Pharaoh_Atem (0)




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