14:59:38 <dcantrell> #startmeeting FESCO (2021-02-17)
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14:59:38 <dcantrell> #meetingname fesco
14:59:38 <dcantrell> #chair nirik, ignatenkobrain, decathorpe, zbyszek, sgallagh, mhroncok, dcantrell, cverna, Conan_Kudo, Pharaoh_Atem, Son_Goku, King_InuYasha, Sir_Gallantmon, Eighth_Doctor
14:59:38 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
14:59:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: Conan_Kudo Eighth_Doctor King_InuYasha Pharaoh_Atem Sir_Gallantmon Son_Goku cverna dcantrell decathorpe ignatenkobrain mhroncok nirik sgallagh zbyszek
14:59:41 <dcantrell> #topic init process
14:59:57 <decathorpe> .hello2
15:00:00 <zodbot> decathorpe: decathorpe 'Fabio Valentini' <decathorpe@gmail.com>
15:00:01 <dcantrell> .hello2
15:00:03 <zodbot> dcantrell: dcantrell 'David Cantrell' <dcantrell@redhat.com>
15:00:30 <zbyszek> .hello2
15:00:31 <zodbot> zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>
15:00:45 <mhroncok> .hello churchyard
15:00:46 <zodbot> mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' <mhroncok@redhat.com>
15:01:06 <dcantrell> hi, everyone.  just waiting on a few more I guess
15:01:23 <bcotton> .hello2
15:01:24 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
15:02:18 <King_InuYasha> .hello ngompa
15:02:19 <zodbot> King_InuYasha: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com>
15:02:19 * King_InuYasha waves
15:02:33 <zbyszek> While we're waiting... Does anyone understand this bug:
15:02:40 <zbyszek> .bug 1919864
15:02:41 <cverna> hello
15:02:42 <zodbot> zbyszek: 1919864 – rdma-core-33.0-1.fc33 not available as multilib anymore (missing i686 version in x86_64 repos) - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1919864
15:02:55 <zbyszek> It's still present in rawhide.
15:03:20 <decathorpe> zbyszek: I thought this has been fixed?
15:03:35 <zbyszek> I just tried to upgrade to F34 and it seems not.
15:03:52 <dcantrell> I count enough here, so why don't we get started
15:03:59 <zbyszek> Yeah, please go ahead.
15:04:23 <dcantrell> ok, I hope this is short but I wanted to hit two issues today mostly because I see bcotton here and because of zbyszek's comment on one of them.  here we go
15:04:28 <dcantrell> #topic #2508 F34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire
15:04:29 <dcantrell> .fesco 2508
15:04:30 <zodbot> dcantrell: Issue #2508: F34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire - fesco - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2508
15:04:49 <decathorpe> zbyszek: looks like the fix was only applied to f32 and f33 branches and not to f34+
15:05:41 <dcantrell> my main concern on 2508 is whether or not this is on track and it looks like it did not meet our conditions on approval in the first place.  anyone have any thoughts here?
15:05:49 <King_InuYasha> what?
15:05:55 <King_InuYasha> what condition was missed?
15:06:10 <dcantrell> see the most recent comment from zbyszek
15:06:24 <dcantrell> no instructions on opt-out
15:06:30 <zbyszek> Some docs are missing, but I hope we can add that quickly.
15:06:37 <King_InuYasha> we can add that as soon as I know where to put it
15:06:56 <dcantrell> for now can you add it to the change proposal page?
15:07:07 <King_InuYasha> the Change specifies that `dnf install pulseaudio --allowerasing` or `dnf swap pipewire-pulseaudio pulseaudio` should work
15:07:29 <King_InuYasha> and that definitely does on my F34/Rawhide images
15:08:17 <King_InuYasha> but I can put it somewhere more explicitly, maybe in the release notes section?
15:08:36 <dcantrell> yeah, I think that might make it a bit more obvious for people who were not specifically looking for testing info
15:08:40 <dcantrell> thanks
15:08:43 <King_InuYasha> no problem
15:08:51 * King_InuYasha regularly does PA<->PW swaps
15:09:01 <zbyszek> King_InuYasha: where is the swap command described?
15:09:29 <dcantrell> #action ngompa will add info to the release notes section for opt-out instructions
15:09:54 <dcantrell> alright, bcotton, this is for you
15:10:01 <dcantrell> #topic #2576 Fedora 34 incomplete changes
15:10:01 <dcantrell> .fesco 2576
15:10:03 <zodbot> dcantrell: Issue #2576: Fedora 34 incomplete changes - fesco - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2576
15:10:03 * bcotton braces himself
15:10:21 <dcantrell> really, I just wanted to give you an opporuntity since we're all here right now if there's something you need specific info from us on
15:10:43 <dcantrell> I know we're working through this ticket
15:10:49 <dcantrell> if you have nothing, that's also fine
15:11:12 <bcotton> yeah, nothing particular to call out here. next week is the 100% code complete deadline, so that's the time to get serious about it
15:11:30 <dcantrell> right, I wanted to give us a little more runway on that with regards to these meetings
15:11:40 <bcotton> although if there are any changes that FESCo would like to kick to F35 now, that's okay. I don't see anything that would warrant early treatment
15:11:44 <dcantrell> anyone else have anything on #2576 they want to discuss now?
15:12:32 <bcotton> and in the interests of making this process smoother next time, I also posted the one week warning to not-in-ON_QA bugs and several switched to ON_QA already. So hopefully there will be less churn in the first day after I submit the list
15:12:42 <zbyszek> I'm sad about openssl3.0. But it's clearly not ready yet.
15:12:50 <dcantrell> bcotton++
15:12:50 <zodbot> dcantrell: Karma for bcotton changed to 22 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:13:05 <dcantrell> zbyszek: agreed, but oh well
15:13:20 <dcantrell> alright, moving on
15:13:25 <dcantrell> #topic Next week's chair
15:13:53 <cverna> I can do next week
15:13:58 <dcantrell> thank you
15:14:06 <dcantrell> #action cverna will chair next meeting
15:14:12 <dcantrell> #topic Open Floor
15:15:09 <dcantrell> I feel like we're all quite busy  :)
15:15:13 <dcantrell> last call
15:15:25 <zbyszek> devconf is tomorrow!
15:15:47 <dcantrell> oh yes, I hope I get time to attend some sessions
15:16:04 <King_InuYasha> I've got my talk tomorrow on btrfs :)
15:16:17 <dcantrell> what time?
15:16:24 <King_InuYasha> 15:30 CET
15:16:30 <King_InuYasha> 11:30 AM EST :)
15:16:44 <dcantrell> thanks
15:16:53 <King_InuYasha> also, I just filled in the PipeWire Change release notes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultPipeWire#Release_Notes
15:17:04 <dcantrell> King_InuYasha++
15:17:06 <King_InuYasha> it can be further fleshed out as needed, but that's the bare minimum I could come up with
15:17:30 <dcantrell> thank you
15:17:50 <zbyszek> King_InuYasha: shouldn't this be in "upgrade/compatibility", a new subsection?
15:18:55 <King_InuYasha> zbyszek: maybe, I don't know enough about what should go there
15:19:11 <King_InuYasha> in my experience, everything works, including bluetooth (well, as well as BT ever worked)
15:19:43 <King_InuYasha> oh, I see what you mean
15:19:48 <King_InuYasha> yeah, I'll add it there too
15:19:58 <zbyszek> King_InuYasha: thanks.
15:20:08 <dcantrell> ok, anyone else for open floor?
15:20:27 <dcantrell> calling end of meeting
15:20:33 <dcantrell> #endmeeting