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#fedora-meeting-2: FESCO (2023-08-24)
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Meeting started by zbyszek_ at 17:04:16 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* init process  (zbyszek_, 17:04:19)

* #3059 F39 incomplete changes: 100% complete deadline  (zbyszek_,
  17:05:18)

* Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default  (zbyszek_, 17:05:42)
  * Changes were pushed today. The Change is in progress.  (zbyszek_,
    17:07:23)

* Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder  (zbyszek_,
  17:07:30)
  * This is still being worked out, but it's non-blocking and additive.
    (zbyszek_, 17:08:35)

* Deprecating libuser and removing passwd package from Fedora
  (zbyszek_, 17:08:42)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2233275#c1
    (zbyszek_, 17:09:26)
  * AGREED: Change is deferred to F40 (+7, 0, 0)  (zbyszek_, 17:12:10)

* Allow Removal of tzdata  (zbyszek_, 17:12:23)
  * This isn't fully implemented yet, we'll revisit on the next meeting.
    (zbyszek_, 17:15:24)

* LLVM 17  (zbyszek_, 17:15:41)
  * Owners decided to move to rc3, and it's being built now.  (zbyszek_,
    17:18:14)

* Flatpaks without Modules  (zbyszek_, 17:18:27)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11626 seems to be the blocker.
    (zbyszek_, 17:19:34)
  * This is pretty much done... just a few small things being sorted.
    (zbyszek_, 17:19:59)

* Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking
  test criteria  (zbyszek_, 17:20:12)
  * This is done except for a single PR to make it blocking in the
    compose config.  (zbyszek_, 17:21:17)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1195   (nirik,
    17:21:56)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1194   (Son_Goku,
    17:22:12)
  * https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1195 is about to be
    merged.  (zbyszek_, 17:22:14)
  * and also https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1194.
    (zbyszek_, 17:22:32)

* RPM 4.19  (zbyszek_, 17:22:45)
  * Beta was built 3 months ago. Bugs are being fixed and we're waiting
    for the final version. This is on track.  (zbyszek_, 17:24:29)

* Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39  (zbyszek_, 17:24:45)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175941#c1
    (zbyszek_, 17:25:32)
  * This seems stalled, but it would be OK to land late if the
    dependencies can be rebuilt. We'll revisit next week.  (zbyszek_,
    17:26:27)

* SPDX License Phase 2  (zbyszek_, 17:26:42)
  * This is a neverending task. The Change is in progress.  (zbyszek_,
    17:28:19)

* LegacyXorgDriverRemoval  (zbyszek_, 17:28:34)
  * It seems no work has been done on this.  (zbyszek_, 17:32:40)
  * ACTION: ajax to look at the Change again.  (zbyszek_, 17:33:42)

* Python 3.12  (zbyszek_, 17:34:05)
  * python3-3.12.0~rc1-1 is in F39 and most packages have been rebuilt.
    (zbyszek_, 17:36:16)

* LibreOffice 7.6  (zbyszek_, 17:36:40)
  * LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2278778
    (decathorpe, 17:37:39)
  * This is in progress. Dependencies have been rebuilt in a side tag.
    (zbyszek_, 17:37:55)
  * LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2278778
    (zbyszek_, 17:38:13)

* Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server editions
  (zbyszek_, 17:38:31)
  * LINK:
    https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/279
    (zbyszek_, 17:39:05)
  * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/2562
    (zbyszek_, 17:39:10)
  * This is actively being worked on. We'll revisit next week.
    (zbyszek_, 17:39:59)

* No custom Qt theming for Fedora Workstation   (zbyszek_, 17:40:16)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1184
    (Son_Goku, 17:40:58)
  * Builds have been done after the deadline, so a FE has been
    requested.  (zbyszek_, 17:41:33)

* Passkey authentication for centrally managed users  (zbyszek_,
  17:41:46)
  * This is mostly implemented, but is blocked on selinux policy changes
    and possibly some udev rule changes.  (zbyszek_, 17:46:39)

* Bigger ESP  (zbyszek_, 17:47:00)
  * The size change has caused problems, but just reverting it might
    also cause problems.  (zbyszek_, 17:49:39)
  * Let's discuss this in the bug and revisit next week.  (zbyszek_,
    17:52:15)

* Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite   (zbyszek_, 17:52:23)
  * We'll revisit this next week. Owners plan to file a FE.  (zbyszek_,
    17:54:18)

* Next week's chair  (zbyszek_, 17:54:53)
  * ACTION: Son_Goku will chair next meeting  (zbyszek_, 17:55:30)

* Open Floor  (zbyszek_, 17:55:43)

Meeting ended at 17:58:14 UTC.




Action Items
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* ajax to look at the Change again.
* Son_Goku will chair next meeting




Action Items, by person
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* Son_Goku
  * Son_Goku will chair next meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * ajax to look at the Change again.




People Present (lines said)
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* zbyszek_ (105)
* Son_Goku (52)
* nirik (42)
* decathorpe (19)
* zodbot (16)
* sgallagh (8)
* mhayden (5)
* tstellar (5)
* smooge (5)
* zbyszek (0)
* mhroncok (0)
* dcantrell (0)
* Conan_Kudo (0)
* Pharaoh_Atem (0)
* King_InuYasha (0)
* Sir_Gallantmon (0)
* Eighth_Doctor (0)




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