<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:00:53
!startmeeting FESCO (2024-10-22)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:56
Meeting started at 2024-10-22 17:00:53 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:56
The Meeting name is 'FESCO (2024-10-22)'
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:01:06
!meetingname fesco
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
17:01:06
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:07
Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:01:07
The Meeting Name is now fesco
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:01:12
Chairs: @conan_kudo:matrix.org, @ngompa:fedora.im, @nirik:matrix.scrye.com, @humaton:fedora.im, @zbyszek:fedora.im, @sgallagh:fedora.im, @jistone:fedora.im, @dcantrell:fedora.im, @decathorpe:fedora.im, @salimma:fedora.im
<@jistone:fedora.im>
17:01:13
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:14
Josh Stone (jistone) - he / him / his
<@jkonecny:fedora.im>
17:01:15
!hi
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:01:16
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:17
Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:17
Jiří Konečný (jkonecny)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:01:21
!topic Init Process
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:01:21
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:23
David Cantrell (dcantrell) - he / him / his
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:01:27
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:29
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@humaton:fedora.im>
17:01:42
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:43
Tomáš Hrčka (humaton) - he / him / his
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:01:46
hey folks... we have only one topic today, but it's kind of a doozy
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:01:53
morning
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
17:02:01
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:02:02
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbyszek)
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
17:02:03
do we need to discuss or can we still punt?
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
17:02:18
Did anything change from the previous meeting?
<@jistone:fedora.im>
17:02:46
I think we just didn't clear the meeting label last time
<@jkonecny:fedora.im>
17:02:52
Evening 😀
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:03:01
I don't think anything has actually changed in a week
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:03:06
Yeah, I thought we agreeed to wait
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:03:14
so if we want to punt and this time I'll erase the meeting tag, I'm fine with that :)
<@jkonecny:fedora.im>
17:03:35
Fine with me. Nothing to share so far
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:03:49
alright, let me do some smithing here for the minutes
<@farribeiro:matrix.org>
17:03:53
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:03:54
Fábio Ribeiro (farribeiro) - he / him / his
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:03:57
!topic #3272 Change: Anaconda Web UI partitioning
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:04:06
!fesco 3272
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:08
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:08
● **Last Updated:** 6 minutes ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:08
**fesco #3272** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3272):**Change: Anaconda Web UI partitioning**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:08
● **Opened:** 4 weeks ago by amoloney
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:04:08
● **Assignee:** jkonecny
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:04:40
We're punting until after the new year, I think?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:05:01
I don't think much progess is going to happen for the remainder of the year
<@jistone:fedora.im>
17:05:13
new year, new fesco, ...
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
17:05:38
Reminder from last week: AGREED: Wait for the Anaconda team to deliver missing functionality and finish blog post / video describing current state. Then have this discussion again.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:05:43
well, it needs to be before the deadline.
<@trix:fedora.im>
17:05:44
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:05:46
Tom Rix (trix)
<@jkonecny:fedora.im>
17:06:02
I'll ping you on the issue if there will be some new info to discuss
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:06:08
okay, then I'll just put what zbyszek just posted and we'll see how things go
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:06:56
!agreed We will still wait for the Anaconda team to deliver missing functionality and finish blog post / video describing current state. Then we will have this discussion again. This time, this will be recorded in the ticket. :)
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
17:06:57
I don't think we should say anything. The issue was just not processed correctly after the last meeting.
<@jkonecny:fedora.im>
17:07:13
Please remind me, when is the deadline for decision?
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:07:38
this is consider a system-wide change, but without infra, right?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:07:48
with infra
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:07:52
it affects QA and other things
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:07:54
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-key-tasks.html
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:08:00
then Dec 18
<@jkonecny:fedora.im>
17:08:14
Ok
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:08:16
so a week before 🎄
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:08:44
!info We expect to discuss this again before the week of December 18.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:09:17
wait, that's just the submission deadline
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:09:26
not the actual change deadline
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:09:42
but that's fine for us, that way we know things going into the new year
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:09:55
oh, yeah, sorry. two different things. submit by dec 18, but we need to vote to accept the change soon afterwards right?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:10:03
!topic Next week's chair
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:10:04
completion is Feb 4
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:10:08
for testing
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:10:12
yup
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:10:28
but it's fine, I think Dec 18 is fairly reasonable to know what things are going to look like
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:10:38
and we can figure it out when we get there
<@jkonecny:fedora.im>
17:10:49
I think it should be fine
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:10:50
anyway... I would offer to be next week's chair, except I can't
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:11:30
I will be on an airplane that day
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:11:57
and the week after is election day, so probably not for me then either
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
17:12:14
I can do it.
<@jistone:fedora.im>
17:12:18
I can do next week
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:12:34
well then, who wants to duke it out for that :P
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:12:55
I don't have the ability to do no-reason early voting or I would have
<@jistone:fedora.im>
17:13:13
I haven't done it in a while, but I'm happy to yield too
<@zbyszek:fedora.im>
17:13:26
OK, then I can do it the week after.
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:13:35
sigh... :(
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:13:57
!action Josh Stone will do next week. zbyszek will do the week after.
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:14:01
meanwhile here we get offered to sign up to permanently vote by mail if we want (and I think in WA everyone votes by mail)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:14:08
!topic Open Floor
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:14:22
WA and WY I think
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:14:26
I know WY does
<@jistone:fedora.im>
17:14:33
OR is mail only too
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:15:19
makes sense, the three western states are often aligned
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:15:36
I've never lived anywhere with freely accessible mail in voting :(
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:15:51
every state I lived in requires in person unless incapable of getting there
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:16:38
move to IL or WA :)
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:16:52
I wouldn't mind IL :)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:16:57
though that makes meetings with EU harder
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:17:02
WA is too depressing
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:17:15
so much rain and gray
<@humaton:fedora.im>
17:18:41
hmm
<@humaton:fedora.im>
17:19:08
If I was going to migrate to north america BC would be my first choice and WA second
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:19:41
yeah, personally I like WA weather too, for those coming in from UK or central Europe it should be fine (milder winter too)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:20:24
my favorite locations to visit this year were all cooler than the midwest
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
17:21:14
is EU a state or "*the* EU"?
<@decathorpe:fedora.im>
17:21:34
I don't know all 2LAs by heart
<@humaton:fedora.im>
17:21:52
and I know that I will retire somewhere on the river Ucayali
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:21:59
between BC and WA, I'd take WA, but my mood is tied somewhat to the weather and so I like sunnier weather patterns
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:22:38
where I live in CT, I have reasonably mild winters
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:22:41
what's fun in the United States is the postal service has a different list of 2 letter state abbreviations than the Coast Guard does. postal service calls Mississippi MS, but the Coast Guard calls Massachusetts MS
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:22:48
and not too crazy summer heat
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:22:59
wait what?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:23:07
I didn't know the USCG used a different list
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:23:28
the USCG list predates the postal list and naturally there was no coordination
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:23:35
I guess the EU. my fingers are lazy this morning
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:23:37
of course not :D
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:23:40
that would be sensible
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:23:44
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_and_territory_abbreviations
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:24:04
there is some overlap
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:24:26
that reminds me of an unrelated incident where I was confused why my Pixel phone was stuck in Ontario, CA 3 years ago
<@salimma:fedora.im>
17:24:46
it turns out to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario%2C_California
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:24:54
indeed
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:24:57
there's an airport there
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:25:22
my phone used to jump to Norwalk, CA too
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:25:28
it's just like. well okay I guess
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:25:58
not that I wouldn't mind living there if I could afford it, but...
<@dcantrell:fedora.im>
17:26:02
I don't like the phone tracking me, so I don't go for the detailed location resolution. I just have my phone set to Earth
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:26:38
nah this was whenever I tried to use uber on my old phone
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:26:44
it would randomly select Norwalk CA
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:26:49
anyway...
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:27:03
we're done here, and this random sidealong is just dragging out this meeting
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:27:04
so...
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
17:27:07
!endmeeting