#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:33:38

!startmeeting Fedora Flatpak Packaging SIG

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:33:39

Meeting started at 2024-01-08 15:33:38 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:33:39

The Meeting name is 'Fedora Flatpak Packaging SIG'

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:33:47

!meetingname flatpak-sig

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:33:53

!topic Init process

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:34:32

happy new year to everybody and welcome to the flatpak meeting

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:34:51

who's around today?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:35:07

.hi

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:35:08

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:35:09

Yaakov Selkowitz (yselkowitz)

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:35:39

(my cat is around and attempting to sit on my keyboard, so you know what's up if I start typing weird stuff :))

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:37:17

Owen Taylor: you around today?

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:37:52

looks like it's just us two today

<@farribeiro:matrix.org>

15:38:19

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:38:21

Fábio Ribeiro (farribeiro) - he / him / his

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:38:28

hi! welcome

<@tpopela:matrix.org>

15:40:09

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:40:11

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<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:40:21

hi Tomas!

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:41:12

OK, let's get started - I have a quick update on openh264, then there's a question about blackbox-terminal and then I think we need to talk about libreoffice

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:41:22

is there anything else we need to discuss today?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:41:41

let's start with that

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:41:46

OK!

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:41:51

!topic openh264

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:42:49

so, this is currently waiting on https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11823 - in particular, we need the "Obsoletes: noopenh264" that this build adds to be present in the Cisco repo before we can introduce noopenh264 into Fedora repos

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:43:05

releng in turn says that it's waiting on Cisco :(

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:45:16

if it takes much longer we could possibly look into building noopenh264 and gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 just for the flatpak runtime build root (and keep waiting for this before doing regular rpm builds), as we aren't constrained by upgrade path issues for flatpaks

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:45:29

anyway, that's all from me

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:46:32

it helps because we can then pre-install the plugin and only need to side load the library

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:46:49

it's exactly the same how it's handled in freedesktop sdk - they have exactly the same constraints

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:47:04

and what's the mechanism for side loading?

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:47:23

a runtime extension

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:47:46

... which downloads the rpm from cisco and unpacks it at the right spot

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:48:32

what other changes are needed to support that?

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:49:35

I have some changes to flatpak-module-tools. I should probably get those upstream while waiting for Cisco.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:50:50

yeah, I'd say once *everything* else is in place to create this extension, if we are still waiting for cisco, then we build noopenh264 and gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 for flatpaks only

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:51:15

yep, agreed

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:51:25

ok, let's move on

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:51:32

!topic blackbox-terminal

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:51:48

I noticed https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/flatpak/fedora-flatpaks/-/issues/27 and wanted to bring it up

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:52:13

is it on your radar or want me to do the build?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:52:29

I hadn't seen that

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:53:24

I'll look into that

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:54:23

thanks - I'll leave a comment in the ticket

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:54:36

!topic libreoffice status

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:54:59

I haven't been tracking this - do you have a quick update where we are now?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:56:48

yeah, the java dependencies have been tricky to get right, every time I think I have it, something else comes up. also, I've been really busy with ELN as of late. right now, I think I need to go back to the drawing board and rethink how javapackages-tools is handled wrt flatpaks.

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:57:28

would it help short term to put openjdk into the runtime? I remember thinking once upon a time that it would, but I've forgotten the details.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:57:51

it's not openjdk itself that's the problem, its javapackages-tools

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:58:10

I guess this ties into my question... about retiring osbs. ;)

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:58:22

yeah, but would javapackages-tools behave better if openjdk was in /usr?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:58:25

I've been going back and forth wrt javapackages-tools, now I'm back to thinking that they should be buildroot only, and any runtime dependencies on it are a mistake (or in the case of javapackages-filesystem, to be skipped)

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:58:43

again, I don't think that's the problem

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

15:59:00

it's javapackages-tools itself, which has a lot of hardcoded /usr

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:59:19

I guess we can keep libreoffice limping on with the F38 runtime a while longer :)

<@kalev:fedora.im>

15:59:32

nirik: do we have a deadline when we need to stop all osbs use?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:00:09

not sure, but sooner would make me happy. its a big mess I want to drop

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

16:00:36

I hear you, it's just been a real pain getting these two to switch

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

16:00:44

speaking of which, evolution?

<@kalev:fedora.im>

16:00:57

I think we are out of time -ä openqa is coming

<@kalev:fedora.im>

16:01:01

and we need owen for evolution

<@kalev:fedora.im>

16:01:06

!endmeeting

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

16:01:07

I thought we had an hour?