20:01:04 <darci> #startmeeting
20:01:04 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May  2 20:01:04 2013 UTC.  The chair is darci. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:01:04 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
20:01:26 <darci> Note the list of useful commands.
20:01:37 <darci> We will be using these throughout the meeting.
20:01:42 <LoriP> What is halp?
20:01:49 <darci> There is an agenda at
20:01:52 <darci> #link:http://www.foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1
20:02:03 <heidie> #info Darci is using a "meetbot" to capture the contents of the meeting.
20:02:21 <darci> Hmmm...is halp really help?
20:02:45 <LoriP> That's what I would have guessed...
20:02:55 <LoriP> #halp I think I need help?
20:03:04 <darci> All of the comments that start with #command are recorded by the meetbot
20:03:22 <darci> It is a great way to keep minutes of meetings
20:03:32 <camm> git is wonderful
20:03:33 <camm> https://git.sugarlabs.org/sl-tweaks/meetbot/commit/5c72faaf6f9e5d2f77dbfda5969dc6854bc7374a
20:03:49 <camm> Rename "#halp" command to "#help"
20:03:58 <darci> Great!
20:04:03 <heidie> "halp" is actually a way of adding help items to the minutes.
20:04:35 <darci> Why don't we start with introductions.
20:04:47 <heidie> #topic Introductions
20:04:50 <darci> beckam: would you like to go first?
20:05:01 <pdavis> Phillip Davis, professor computer science del mar college
20:05:03 <beckam> Sure,
20:05:18 <darci> We can go through the list alphabetically,
20:05:19 <beckam> Becka Morgan Computer Science Western Oregon University
20:05:35 <darci> camm?
20:06:09 <darci> I'm Darci Burdge from Nassau Community College in Garden City, NY
20:06:10 <camm> Cam Macdonell Grant MacEwan University (in Edmonton, AB, Canada)
20:06:20 <darci> I am a member of the OpenFE team
20:06:26 <darci> Sorry, camm
20:06:46 <darci> ghislop?
20:06:49 <ghislop> Greg Hislop, on the faculty at Drexel in Philadelphia, local arrangements chair for stage 2 of the POSSE, and OpenFE team member
20:07:11 <heidie> Heidi Ellis, in the CS & IT department at Western New England University. OpenFE team member.
20:07:42 <jtaormina> JoAnne Taormina - Math and Computer Science - Nassau Community College, Garden City NY
20:07:43 * heidie notes that the "afk" indicates that Howard is "away from keyboard" and may not respond
20:07:49 <langma> Matt Lang from Moravian College (Bethlehem, PA)
20:07:58 <LoriP> Lori Postner, Nassau Community College, Open FE team member
20:08:09 <mpulimood> Monisha Pulimood, Computer Science, The College of New Jersey
20:08:16 <pdavis> PhillipDavis Professor Del Mar College, PI GeoTech Center http://geotechcenter.org
20:08:35 <mpurcell> Michelle Purcell, Phd Student, helping out with OpenFE
20:08:59 <sbenthall> Sebastian Benthall, PhD student, UC Berkeley School of Information
20:09:03 <sonal> Sonal Dekhane, Information Technology at Georgia Gwinnett College
20:09:40 * darci notes that she should have used the #topic command
20:10:05 <darci> It appears as though Stoney is afk
20:10:16 <heidie> Got it covered :-)
20:10:17 <sbenthall> I don't understand--does the meetbot just record lines that start with #commands, or do some of them signal to record other things?
20:10:22 <darci> Welcome to all. It's great to meet you
20:10:28 * ghislop notes that Heidi did the #topic for Darci...
20:10:32 <heidie> It collects everything in a raw log.
20:10:47 <heidie> But anything that begins with a hash mark is organized into different sections.
20:10:52 <sbenthall> got it. thanks!
20:10:52 <heidie> So there will be a "Topic" section.
20:10:56 <darci> Thanks heidi!
20:11:21 <heidie> The meetbot generates several different kinds of output. Raw log and a processed log that contains summary based on hashtagged items
20:11:22 <camm> are the links for the meetbot sessions on the wiki somewhere?
20:11:23 <darci> I believe that two logs will be created.
20:11:40 <heidie> Ummm, they will be?
20:11:54 <darci> One contains the raw output and the other a summary of the comments that began with a #command
20:12:05 <heidie> I'll have to go hunt down the previous one as I forgot to capture the link from Tuesday's meeting.
20:12:10 <ghislop> one log and one summary
20:12:19 <sbenthall> any chance you could link to examples?
20:12:25 <ghislop> and the meetbot will provide the links to them at the end of this meeting...
20:12:31 <ghislop> I have the links...
20:12:47 <sbenthall> (tell me if I should stay quiet and not disrupt the agenda)
20:13:11 <darci> #link http://www.foss2serve.org/images/foss2serve/4/43/MousetrapBot2013-03-01.pdf
20:13:23 <darci> Here's an example of the results of the summary
20:13:28 <heidie> Ah sbenthall, you're doing exactly what we were hoping!
20:13:32 <heidie> Asking questions is great!
20:13:35 <sbenthall> right on
20:13:39 <heidie> :-)
20:13:40 <darci> ;-)
20:13:56 * heidie wonders how Darci got the wink-smile.
20:14:02 <pdavis> Will there be Philly Cheesesteaks at the meeting?
20:14:07 * darci she used a semi-colon
20:14:08 <jtaormina> I have a question: why do some lines begin with a bullet?
20:14:10 <heidie> :-) Great question!
20:14:17 <ghislop> zodbot	Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/foss2serve/2013-04-30/foss2serve.2013-04-30-15.05.html
20:14:30 <pdavis> I like mine with lots of cheese :)
20:14:35 <ghislop> zodbot	Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/foss2serve/2013-04-30/foss2serve.2013-04-30-15.05.log.html
20:14:51 <heidie> jtaormina: bullets in the meeting notes?
20:14:52 <camm> jtaormina: begin a line with /me and see
20:14:54 <darci> jtaormina: which lines
20:14:55 <ghislop> Those links are the results from the first IRC meeting earlier this week...
20:14:58 <heidie> I'm not sure where you mean.
20:15:00 * camm like this
20:15:08 * pdavis ?
20:15:12 <LoriP> greg - should the log start with a link command?
20:15:16 * jtaormina this?
20:15:33 * jtaormina oh, ok. What is the significance of a bullet?
20:15:48 <camm> those are /me statements which describe what you're doing or thinking rather than adding something to the conference
20:15:53 * camm gets coffee
20:15:56 <darci> Hmmm...I don't see a bullet?
20:16:11 <jtaormina> thank you!
20:16:11 <camm> darci: are they highlighted or bolded?
20:16:12 <LoriP> I don't see a bullet?  I see italics - will this vary depending upon the client?
20:16:13 <ghislop> LoriP: the log starts when you enter a #startmeeting
20:16:17 * jtaormina Drinking tea.
20:16:22 <camm> LoriP: yes, client dependent
20:16:23 <heidie> :-)
20:16:41 <camm> my client is text-based and so shows an asterisk
20:16:47 <heidie> Ah, so jtaormina sees a bullet instead of italics? Got it.
20:16:54 * darci say Ahhh...
20:16:57 <camm> ^5 (high five)
20:17:00 <LoriP> ghislop I met in your posting of the page, should it begin with a link command like someone did earlier?
20:17:02 <jtaormina> I am using Colloquy
20:17:05 * mpulimood is also drinking tea ...
20:17:30 <ghislop> LoriP: only if you wanted it put in the collection of links in the summary...
20:17:41 * beckam thinks tea would be a good idea
20:17:42 * LoriP oh
20:18:18 <sonal> by using the quit command you quit out of irc. How do you quit out of a single channel if you are signed into multiple?
20:18:22 <mpulimood> do commands (beginning with #) have to be the first word on the line?
20:18:28 <camm> /wc
20:18:35 <camm> i think it means "window close"
20:18:41 <ghislop> sonal: use /leave to exit a single channel
20:18:45 <pdavis> What client is everyone using?  I choose ChatZilla.
20:18:57 <sonal> ghislop: thank you
20:18:58 <darci> Yes, the #commands should be at the beginning of the line, I think.
20:19:01 <beckam> KVIrc
20:19:05 <sonal> Chatzilla
20:19:06 <heidie> mpulimood: Yes, the commands for the meetbot which start with hashtag need to be at the beginning.
20:19:09 <darci> Chatzilla
20:19:14 <LoriP> Chatzilla
20:19:14 <heidie> Chatzilla
20:19:21 <sbenthall> Konversation
20:19:30 <pdavis> Good, looks like Mozilla's the man
20:19:32 <heidie> Ah, sbenthall is on Linux!
20:19:35 <pdavis> or woman :)
20:19:42 <camm> irssi
20:19:43 <heidie> Right!
20:19:43 <sbenthall> is chatzilla good?
20:19:55 <pdavis> zillas excellent imho
20:19:57 <heidie> It has a fairly clean interface.
20:19:59 * mpulimood is using freenode irc for Chrome
20:20:07 <darci> It is easy to install and easy to use.
20:20:09 <pdavis> indeed clean, see it's linux roots
20:20:10 <heidie> Yes.
20:20:14 <heidie> :-)
20:20:31 * sbenthall proudly basks in his cred
20:20:40 <pdavis> been long time since I used IRC honestly
20:21:08 <pdavis> where's the G+ Hangout lol
20:21:15 <darci> Are there other IRC questions?
20:21:17 <darci> ;-)
20:21:43 <pdavis> anyone using IRC mobile client on phone?
20:21:49 <beckam> I have been lurking on the Sahana IRC and it is dead. Any suggestions for a more active channel
20:22:16 <darci> beckam: are there meeting days/times posted anywhere?
20:22:25 <camm> Ushahidi uses Skype rather than IRC
20:22:35 <sonal> beckam: I was on the openmrs channel and that was pretty active
20:22:39 <mpulimood> that's too bad, I signed up for Sahana ...
20:22:40 <camm> if you send me a skype id, I can get you add to that
20:22:41 <beckam> darci: I did not find them. Will look closer
20:23:01 <beckam> sonal: Thank you
20:23:27 <darci> Are they using a different means of communicating...Skype as camm suggested?
20:23:37 <heidie> I don't know.
20:23:50 <ghislop> beckam: Projects vary in how they communicate.  Finding what's actually used is one of the first steps in understanding a FOSS project...
20:24:20 <beckam> ghislop: Thank you
20:24:29 <darci> I believe this will be explored in a later activity.
20:25:09 <darci> Have people been thinking about which project they are interested in ?
20:25:40 <beckam> I like the idea behind Sahana
20:25:40 <jtaormina> I think I am interested in Open MRS
20:25:44 <darci> #link http://www.foss2serve.org/index.php/HFOSS_Communities
20:25:47 <mpulimood> I saw that a few people had already signed up for projects
20:25:50 <darci> The list is here...
20:25:59 <ghislop> darci: is this a topic change
20:26:02 <darci> #topic FOSS projects
20:26:09 <ghislop> :-)
20:26:31 <darci> yes...lol
20:27:07 <darci> Yes! some people have signed up
20:27:22 <darci> and some are still thinking about which project they find most appealing.
20:27:39 <camm> beckam: I notice sahana has 4 different channels
20:28:05 <beckam> camm:I was on eden. I will look at the others
20:28:08 <camm> Here is #sahana-eden from yesterday
20:28:09 <camm> http://logs.sahanafoundation.org/sahana-eden/2013-05-02.txt
20:28:24 <heidie> Ah, yes, to clarify. Sahana-eden is an active group.
20:29:06 <camm> it also depends where the dev community is in the world
20:29:13 <camm> as they may chat while you're sleeping
20:29:17 <beckam> camm: Thanks heidie: must have not logged properly. I see there are logs, I will look at these
20:29:28 <heidie> :-)
20:29:58 <camm> Ushahidi has a lot of devs in Kenya, so I'm well aware of this issue :)
20:30:18 <beckam> :-D
20:31:14 <beckam> For people already working in one of the projects, could you give us some insight from your perspective?
20:31:21 <darci> ghislop: how did you change the appearance of your nick
20:31:43 <heidie> Do you mean how do you change the nick?
20:31:53 * heidie notes that ghislop is "away"
20:32:09 <darci> So.../away?
20:32:10 <heidie> it is the nick command:  /nick  NewName
20:32:14 * sbenthall just realized he's supposed to identify a project to contribute to
20:32:15 <heidie> I think so.
20:32:23 <heidie> He is in italics.
20:32:35 <darci> yes, that's what I'm referring to.
20:33:01 <heidie> Ah, I think he used the /away command
20:33:04 <heidie> Trying it...
20:33:35 <heidie> Takes a minute to propagate into the display?
20:33:43 * Becka thinks IRC is pretty fun to play in
20:33:49 <heidie> Does anyone see me in italics?
20:33:50 <darci> Yes...fun!
20:33:54 <darci> nope
20:33:56 <heidie> Yes, I completely agree.
20:34:00 <heidie> Hmmm, so I don't know!
20:34:04 <pulimood> no
20:34:09 <sbenthall> i don't get italics
20:34:13 <LoriP> heidie: no I don't see you in italics
20:34:14 <darci> We'll have to ask him when he comes back.
20:34:25 * heidie thinks that Michelle makes a very cute fuzzy bunny :-)
20:34:28 <heidie> Right.
20:34:42 * darci laughing
20:34:51 * Becka needs a cool nick like fuzzybunny ?
20:34:56 <fuzzybunny> =:)
20:35:08 <fuzzybunny> tried to do an emoticon but didn't work
20:35:13 <pdavis> :(
20:35:16 <pdavis> :)
20:35:18 <pdavis> :()
20:35:25 <pdavis> ;0
20:35:56 <LoriP> why do most nicks start with lower case?
20:35:57 <darci> heidie: do you want to talk some about your work with Gnome Accessibility?
20:36:24 <darci> LoriP: not sure?
20:36:34 <camm> LoriP: that is just an irc convention
20:37:05 <lorip> camm: thanks!
20:37:22 <becka> lorip: thanks
20:37:26 <heidie> Sure.
20:37:47 <heidie> I've been working with the Gnome Accessibility Team for about four years now.
20:38:08 <heidie> I've got a senior-level software engineering course and we have been working on a variety of GNOME Accessibility projects
20:38:21 <heidie> For instance, students have added keyboards to the Caribou on-screen keyboard.
20:38:33 <heidie> And they've tried to add filters to the Cheese camera software.
20:38:57 <heidie> Many uses with visual disabilities see blue on yellow better than black on white so we added a "filter" to do that.
20:39:22 <pdavis> Anyone working with Geospatial open source?
20:39:24 <heidie> And Joanie Diggs, one of the GNOME team leads will be in Phila for stage 2 of POSSE.
20:39:24 <becka> Is this your universities senior project
20:39:30 <pdavis> FOSS4G?
20:39:49 <heidie> becca, it is a one-semester software engineering course. Not really senior projects.
20:39:57 <sbenthall> i'm under some departmental pressure (in designing a course) to find projects that either are not software or require less technical knowledge (since I'm not going to be teaching computer scientists)
20:40:04 <sbenthall> any advice on finding those projects?
20:40:19 <sbenthall> I might be working on FOSS4G for this
20:40:29 <heidie> Ah, look for projects that need documentation or testing.
20:40:30 <sbenthall> that's my background, it would be easy to jump back in
20:40:32 <pdavis> let's team up hall
20:40:37 <sbenthall> good call
20:40:51 <sbenthall> probably would learn more for trying to get into something else thoguh
20:40:53 <pdavis> pdavis@delmar.edu
20:40:58 <pdavis> e tu?
20:41:12 <heidie> One thing.
20:41:14 <becka> sbenthall: I have worked with Ubuntu because they have opportunities in bug triage and documentation that are pretty good places for non-tech
20:41:41 <heidie> one of the intentions of POSSE is to build learning groups of 6 or so people around HFOSS projects.
20:41:53 <heidie> The idea being that faculty could support each other while they learn.
20:42:04 <sbenthall> cool, thanks becka
20:42:38 <heidie> So while we're not dictating projects, we are hoping at the end to have a set of people who are all working on the same project.
20:42:42 <camm> If you have students who are able, translation is a big issue for a lot of intl projects
20:42:43 <becka> heidie: good point
20:43:09 <heidie> Yes, any faculty members who are completely new to FOSS are likely to want that support.
20:43:38 <heidie> So just a word of caution about spreading folks too thin across projects.
20:44:27 <darci> camm: do you want to talk a bit about Ushahidi?
20:44:30 <becka> I did notice in the guided tour that there are communities that have these features. I am sure those suggested will
20:44:45 <camm> darci: sure
20:45:00 <camm> #link https://uchaguzi.co.ke/
20:45:07 <camm> ^ click that to start
20:45:54 <camm> Similar to heidie, I teach a senior-level SE course and for the last/only two runs of the course I have had my students work on hacking projcts from Ushahidi
20:46:04 <camm> #link www.ushahidi.com
20:46:21 <camm> Ushahidi is a web-app that is used for crisis mapping
20:46:54 <camm> it has been used in the Haitian Earthquake, Hurricane Sandy and election monitoring, most recently in Kenya
20:47:09 <camm> the Uchaguzi link is the most recent Kenyan election
20:47:28 <camm> There are 1000s of deployments of Ushahidi around the world
20:47:32 <Monisha> What's the difference between Ushahidi and Sahana (apart from the people..)
20:47:39 <camm> I learned there are 3000 alone in the U.S.
20:48:02 <sbenthall> ah, what was the name of the ushahidi project that did some sweet machine learning stuff?
20:48:05 <sbenthall> swift river?
20:48:07 <camm> Sahana is a tool for on-site workers doing medical relief as I understand
20:48:25 <camm> sbenthall: yes, Swiftriver is under the same umbrella
20:48:53 <camm> Ushahidi is more for the public to learn what is going on.
20:48:53 * sbenthall having trouble finding a way to look at the ushahidi source code
20:49:07 <monisha> ok
20:49:09 <camm> www.github.com/ushahidi
20:49:13 <sbenthall> thanks
20:49:21 <becka> camm: in general or specific cases
20:49:32 <monisha> then maybe what i'm looking for is Ushahidi, not Sahana
20:49:51 <sbenthall> looks like Ushahidi is PHP, Sahana is Python
20:49:59 <camm> Ushahidi is used to map potholes in Boulder, CO
20:50:05 <camm> so it covers the whole gammut
20:50:14 <camm> becka: can you clarify your question?
20:50:15 <heidie> Yup.
20:50:37 <camm> sbenthall: Ushahidi is built on the PHP framework named "Kohana"
20:50:54 <camm> Javascript is also important (it draws the dots on the maps)
20:51:00 <becka> I think you just answered. Sahana is emergency only as I understand. Ushahidi seems to be more day to day problems?
20:51:06 <sbenthall> ah.  Is Sahana based on a framework? I couldn't figure that out in a few glances
20:51:24 <sbenthall> what client side mapping framework does ushahidi use?
20:51:48 <camm> Ushahidi is used to allow the public to map events, so for the election in Kenya you can see voting issues, intimidation, violence, etc.
20:52:10 <becka> I was looking at the human trafficking quote on main page
20:52:14 <camm> for Hurricane Sandy it mapped washed-out roads, loss of power
20:52:33 <camm> in Italy it is used to map illegal dumping of waste, a big problem there
20:52:57 <monisha> interesting uses of Ushahidi
20:53:07 <camm> It has many, many applications and has led to spinoff projects that only involve parts of like
20:53:22 <camm> swiftriver or https://crowdmap.com/
20:53:31 <monisha> I'm working on a project to maps brownfield sites. SOunds like Ushahidi is the one to use then
20:54:12 <camm> Yes, there are lots of mapping projects that are re-inventing the wheel so-to-speak
20:54:30 <monisha> hmm. Is there a way to go back and fix typos after a message has been sent?
20:54:39 <heidie> Nope
20:55:00 * becka had the same thought about typos
20:55:09 <camm> My students really enjoy Ushahidi.  It is pretty easy to get up and running.  My students can get their own versions running in about 1 hour
20:55:31 * heidie notes that typos are common and expected on IRC
20:55:44 * heidie as folks go for speed rather than correctness.
20:55:45 <sonal> When you pick a project for your class do you pick something from an existing list or do you propose your own project
20:55:56 <monisha> camm: cool! Definitely want to look into that.
20:55:59 <sbenthall> i'm just scared of what the analytics engine of swiftriver looks like if its written in PHP
20:56:12 <sbenthall> i know somebody that contributed to that project once, I'm going to email him and ask what's up
20:56:38 <sbenthall> I'm most interested in Ushahidi and Sahana. If it's good for us to be working on the same project, I'll go whichever way the wind blows on that
20:56:49 <heidie> sonal do you mean do you pick an ongoing project or start a new one?
20:56:49 <monisha> heidi: thanks!!
20:57:28 <camm> sbenthall: that's split-off from Ushahidi, so we wouldn't be touching that stuff
20:57:32 <camm> in this POSSE
20:57:39 <sonal> On some projects I saw a wishlist of features, so I was wondering if you have to pick from such a wishlist or an ongoing project or do you propose your own idea
20:57:52 <camm> but, yes PHP can get...interesting in time
20:57:54 <heidie> Ah, good question.
20:58:07 <heidie> The wishlist is a list of items that the community wants to see.
20:58:19 <camm> sonal: with Ushahidi my students use those for ideas
20:58:21 <heidie> You have a greater chance of getting your enhancements committed if you select from that list.
20:58:34 <heidie> However, if you have an idea, you could propose it to the community.
20:58:40 <sbenthall> do you think the benefits of mutual support from POSSE students would break down if some were working on Ushahidi core and others were working on related projects?  I've got independent reasons for being interested in Swiftriver
20:58:42 <camm> we worked on 3 different projects that were picked from the Bug Tracker/Wishlist
20:58:54 <sonal> ok. that makes sense
20:58:58 <sbenthall> (mostly, attraction to shiny objects)
20:59:24 <heidie> :-) sbenthall We're not going to force anyone to work on a project that they don't want to.
20:59:27 <heidie> That wouldn't be fun at all.
20:59:52 <camm> sbenthall: Ushahidi would probably be the first step to getting your feet wet with SwiftRiver
20:59:58 <sbenthall> sure sure, just want to be a team player
21:00:06 <sbenthall> fair enough :)
21:00:13 <sonal> can someone talk about open mrs
21:00:14 <heidie> But we are hoping to steer folks towards the identified projects so that there is a community of known players for faculty members when they actually try this in class.
21:00:27 <heidie> Camm, have you done OpenMRS?
21:00:32 <camm> no
21:00:39 <heidie> I've worked with it peripherally. It has a very large codebase.
21:00:46 <heidie> And it uses 5-6 different languages.
21:00:51 <heidie> So it is relatively complex.
21:00:58 <heidie> But they're really good about organization.
21:01:02 <darci> Having the community also allows team members as a group to develop materials together to be used in their class.
21:01:14 <sbenthall> brb
21:01:31 <heidie> They've got roadmaps for the next 3-4 releases and people signed up for some items in each.
21:01:55 * becka is so excited to have support
21:02:00 <heidie> So the project is large, but typically you can find a relatively modular change that requires you to only learn a bit of the code base.
21:02:05 * heidie Becka, exactly!
21:02:12 <sonal> Ok
21:02:17 <heidie> OpenMRS stands for "Open Medical Records System"
21:02:29 <heidie> And it started as a way to track AIDS patients in Africa.
21:02:46 <heidie> It has grown significantly since then and it also has some external funding.
21:02:59 <heidie> The code base is primarily Java I think.
21:03:14 <heidie> All of the projects listed are ones that students have successfully contributed to in the past.
21:03:20 <heidie> So we know that they're student-frienly.
21:03:33 <sonal> Great! I will take a closer look at it and see what I want to do
21:03:40 <heidie> Sure.
21:03:47 <heidie> No pressure to pick a project immediately BTW.
21:04:00 <heidie> The group on Tuesday were just so excited that they decided to do so.
21:04:13 <heidie> The real deadline is to have a project in mind by June 2nd.
21:04:13 <becka> I assume we can still change our minds if we did already pick?
21:04:25 <darci> Yes!
21:04:33 <heidie> Sure.
21:04:47 <monisha> oh good. Because I just jumped ship to Ushahidi
21:04:51 <heidie> :-)
21:04:56 <heidie> All part of the fun of exploring.
21:05:08 * darci is smiling
21:05:26 <camm> with Ushahidi I'd like to have a little bit of IRC discussion in the coming weeks about what people are interested in
21:05:37 <becka> monisha: I was going to do that also, then openMRS sounded good
21:05:56 <camm> there are many pieces to it, so we can try and pick the part people are most interested in
21:06:16 <monisha> becka: :-) apparently there's still time to change your mind a few times ...
21:06:22 <camm> and again, being part of this discussion, is not any kind of commitment either
21:06:29 <darci> This all sounds great!
21:06:37 <darci> I need to run soon...
21:06:38 <becka> monisha: thank goodness
21:06:41 <heidie> I agree!
21:06:49 <monisha> camm: happy to discuss - after grades are in ie. after may 15
21:07:00 <heidie> Right! Today was my last class.
21:07:07 <heidie> And I just might do a little dance!
21:07:07 <becka> Thank you to our leaders for being here
21:07:10 <darci> I can end the meeting, but others may stick around as long as they like!
21:07:20 <monisha> bye all
21:07:23 <heidie> We're really glad to expand the group!
21:07:26 <heidie> bye....
21:07:31 <sonal> bye
21:07:34 <monisha> camm: let me know when you want to chat
21:07:34 <jtaormina> Thank you for all the good information. By
21:07:34 <becka> bye
21:07:34 * darci thinking that she would like to see the dance!
21:07:37 <lorip> bye
21:07:39 <darci> Bye all!
21:07:42 <camm> monisha: sounds good
21:07:45 <darci> #endmeeting