14:34:52 #startmeeting 14:34:52 Meeting started Thu Jul 25 14:34:52 2013 UTC. The chair is camm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:34:52 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:35:09 Good morning everyone 14:35:15 hi all 14:35:19 I'm here. 14:35:21 Good morning everyone. 14:35:36 #topic updates 14:35:58 I've been busy, so I've mostly been relying on my students to get things done. 14:36:06 I'm embarrassed to say: None for me. 14:36:17 please, don't be embarrassed 14:36:22 They have a draft of a simplified API ready. They say "We've finished the API", but I have pages of critiques for them to deal with. 14:37:07 for students: first draft == done 14:37:09 #link https://github.com/Grinnell-CSC207/textbook/tree/master/Ushahidi%20API Early release of the API 14:37:26 my plan is to work on the specific assignments in the 2nd week of August 14:37:29 The code will be moving. 14:37:33 rebelsky: 14:37:39 rebelsky: Cool! 14:37:47 rebelsky: have you got any feedback from the Ushahidi community? 14:38:03 camm: That would require that I be more public with the Ushahidi community, and I haven't been. (Time issues.) 14:38:20 But that's a good recommendation. 14:38:51 We were also able to snag a machine to host our local Ushahidi installations (including the ones the students are going to build in class) and get it a static IP address. 14:39:04 camm: I haven't lurked in any more Ushahidi meetings since that first one. Have there been more? How do I find out about when they will be? 14:39:30 I didn't even lurk in the first one. I'd appreciate hearing answers to KWurst's question, too. 14:39:30 I've been lurking on the Ushahdi Skype community. I'm getting a clearer idea of what I want my students to do. 14:39:40 kwurst: send Heather (hleson@ushahidi.com) an email and she'll get you added to the email notification list 14:39:53 Monisha: How did you set up to lurk on the Ushahidi Skype community? (Sorry, I'm clueless about this stuff.) 14:40:02 Do you just keep Skype open to a particular channel? 14:40:26 Camm introduced me to Heather who added me to the Skype community 14:40:43 camm: OK. They only notifications I've gotten since then have been from Meetup. And the only one I saw there was a face-to-face meetup. 14:40:55 Ok, emailing Heather needs to be on my to do soon list. 14:41:01 when I log into Skype the Ushahidi chat automatically shows up - if it's on 14:41:07 rebelsky: once you're added, Skype will stay connected to the channel/conversation/whatever-skype-calls-it 14:41:26 it also logs what you've missed while disconnected 14:41:43 that log is useful for catching up 14:42:05 I think Heather must have added me to have lurked in that first meeting, right? So, I should just be able to get on the Skype channel. 14:42:26 I think so 14:42:49 I'm just not used to using Skype. It's not one of my usual apps. I rarely use it. 14:42:57 there's 3 chats: dev, user and mobile 14:43:17 I'm in the same place as Karl. 14:43:29 other than chatting with long distance relatives, Ushahidi is my only skype usage 14:43:38 * kwurst checks to see if he even has Skype installed on his office computer... 14:43:56 I typically use Skype for meetings and don't always have it on - I'm getting into the habit of opening it when I log onto my machine 14:44:07 * kwurst …and the answer is no... 14:44:21 * kwurst starts up a download of Skype.. 14:45:10 monisha: Yeah, I guess I need to get into that habit. 14:45:30 monisha, rebelsky: when are your courses running that may use Ushahidi? 14:45:39 Mine starts late August. 14:45:44 It may be familiarity, but I still prefer IRC to Skype. 14:45:55 In Fall 2013 - classes start Aug 27 14:46:07 So Monisha and I are about on the same timetable. 14:46:28 I have draft assignments, but not in a form I want other people to see. (They also depend on the API.) 14:46:30 Oh cool. Then I can ask yo tons of questions as they come up :-) 14:46:38 And camm and I are both teaching with Ushahidi in Spring. 14:46:54 And I'm trying to figure out if our Information Technology Services department has just undermined my ability to have the students to the "consulting project" that I envisioned. 14:47:19 (We just got a draft policy that says, in essence, "No building Web sites for external clients.") 14:47:22 My class runs every semester so hopefully I will be able to do this again in the Spring - learning from the fall experience 14:47:28 * kwurst is installing Skype... 14:47:51 And again, I'm in the same place as Monisha. Let's hope that this weekly chat will provide us with an opportunity to share ideas. We may also want to use a mailing list. 14:48:51 Mailing list is a good idea 14:49:26 Or a shared 'blog :-) 14:50:33 We've gotten quiet. Do we want to set goals for next week? Report on other things from this week? 14:50:36 * camm thinks about what's the best way... 14:50:44 Blog sounds good too though I'm not so good with updating ... 14:51:07 Also mailing list is "push" while wiki / blog are "pull" 14:51:31 Blog with RSS is "push" 14:51:39 (or can be push) 14:51:46 But I agree with you that mailing list is probably better. 14:52:00 So we can probably just use the group that Camm has been using. 14:52:05 My task for next week will be to come up with a plan of where to aggreate our work 14:53:01 #info rebelsky task 1: Get on to Ushahidi dev list (and get one of my research students on the list) 14:53:09 I can make a mailing list for us on my personal domain if we don't have any other professional options. I don't think I have mailing lists set up on one of our servers yet. 14:53:35 Or, we can do a Google Group, I guess... 14:53:36 #info rebelsky task 2: Revise the API and publicize to the list. 14:53:54 I'll chat with Ushahidi, *maybe* they'll let use their wiki, then people outside of OpenFE/POSSE might stumble across it 14:53:55 I dislike Google sites 14:54:09 I have not tried their groups in much detail 14:54:30 camm and monisha: I'm on Skype now. How do I see the Ushahidi channels? 14:54:35 We're already using the foss2serve wiki, and I'd prefer to keep our stuff there. (It's also probably better for the grant if we do that.) 14:55:26 kwurst: I don't see the Ushahidi channel on Skype right now so probably Heather is not logged in 14:55:59 monisha, it should be there regardless 14:55:59 Oh, so it's tied specifically to a person. Not like in IRC where the channel exists all the time? 14:56:09 no, it's not tied to a specific person 14:56:23 Hmm - then why do I not see it - I saw it earlier today 14:56:32 have a look under your "contacts" 14:56:57 * camm opens skype 14:57:16 I found it under my "History" - it looks like it's inactive right now which is probably why it didn't pop up 14:57:40 So it normally pops up automatically? I'll guess that means we have to be enrolled. 14:57:46 All I see under contacts are camm, monisha, and heather. (And other people I've Skyped with before.) No channels... 14:58:03 kwurst: you were added to that single chat, not the general channel 14:58:29 Ok, so I need to contact Heather again. 14:58:39 kwurst: There are a surprising number of Karl Wurst's on Skype. Which one are you? 14:58:49 She asked if I wanted to be added, but I guess she forgot. 14:59:07 rebelsky: I'm karl.r.wurst 14:59:41 kwurst: I'm srebelsky (although I think I may have another account, too). 15:00:10 I saw a button to add contacts to the group - so I just did that - hope I didn't step on any toes ... 15:00:29 An Ushahidi channel just popped up for me... 15:00:39 so it worked :-) 15:01:26 Monisha: Did you add me, too? I didn't see anything. But I'm clueless on Skype. 15:01:37 Not yet 15:01:47 kwurst: ya, you're not in the channel 15:03:38 rebelsky: I just added you 15:03:41 Wow! The chat is up, with people chatting. Cool. Thanks! 15:03:53 OK, I see the Ushahidi Community General Chat, but it's showing old messages. I think it's populating this new install on my office machine with info from my account. 15:03:53 BTW this is the General community chat not the dev list 15:05:17 Mine seems to have messages starting about July 4 through now. Latest was yesterday, plus two messages about Monisha adding us to the group. 15:05:20 That seems way too easy. 15:05:20 kwurst: sometimes skype has a lag 15:05:39 skype is user-friendly, but it lags some of the other tools like meetbot 15:05:40 rebelsky: that's what I see too 15:05:47 monisha: I see the same thing. 15:06:26 So, is there a Skype API that we can use to write chatbots? (Or, more precisely, that pnutzh4x0r can use to write chatbos?) 15:06:37 I believe there is an open source conference that some of the folks are going to (- is that this week?) 15:06:55 So, what do we need to do to get on the other channels? Email Heather? Or can monisha add us to those too... 15:07:31 I'm not on the others (wanted to get my feet wet first) so I guess we'll need to contact Heather. 15:08:10 kwurst: yes, heather can do that 15:08:31 I think I could add you, but my DNS is currently weird because I have a VPN to my University to access IRC 15:08:46 and skype doesn't seem to like it 15:09:13 #topic moving forward 15:09:32 camm: OK, I'll contact Heather about it. Although, I may do like monisha and just hang out here for a little while until I start actually playing with the code3. 15:09:35 I'd like to help Karl and Monisha get ready for the courses since there's are before mine 15:09:58 kwurst: lurking is totally cool 15:10:36 camm: That would be great. I'm out of town next week but as soon as I get back I plan to start working on my assignments 15:10:39 Camm: When is your course? 15:10:55 It sounds like Monisha and I are both unavailable next week, so should our next meeting be in two weeks? 15:11:12 rebelsky: January-April 2014 15:11:41 Aug 8? 15:11:47 August 8 works for me 15:11:51 I'll be away next week too. I can meet if we want to, but probably won't have anything to report. 15:12:00 I may need to skip out on another meeting, but I'll do my best to be there. 15:12:05 * kwurst is checking calendar... 15:12:08 Afteroon on the 8th would be better for me. 15:12:13 day is currently open so let me know what time works for everyone 15:12:15 Afternoon is ok with me 15:12:15 Whoops ... afternoon 15:12:57 3pm EDT, 2pm CDT, 1pm Mountain? 15:13:14 Aug 8, 3 pm EDT works for me 15:13:17 I can't do the 8th, since I'll be at week-long Big Data introductory workshop. 15:13:29 kwurst: That sounds fun. 15:14:03 rebelsky: Hopefully. It's being run by EMC, which is just a couple of towns away from here. 15:14:04 So, rebelsky, camm, and monisha will meet on the 8th at 3pm EDT. We'll try to get an email summary to kwurst. Does that work for everyone? 15:14:18 sounds good to me 15:14:32 by then i hope to have some actual stuff to report / discuss 15:14:45 Me too. I'll also try to get some stuff out via email. 15:15:00 no worries, it's Summer after all 15:15:16 Summer is often the only time to get real class prep work done. 15:15:34 especially new curriculum 15:15:53 True - I've been busy with a couple of other research projects - one is wrapping up tomorrow 15:17:02 ok, shall I end the meeting, we'll meet again on Aug 8? 15:17:02 I've been balancing two big class redesigns (this one and one for our intro course) with other research and with too much administrative stuff (a workshop on policy studies this week, a summer computing camp for middle school students next week, a workshop on portfolio assessment the following week). 15:17:11 camm: ok with me. Goodbye everyone. 15:17:17 sounds good to me 15:17:23 bye all 15:17:24 #endmeeting