01:02:16 #startmeeting 01:02:16 Meeting started Wed Jul 29 01:02:16 2015 UTC. The chair is lorip. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:02:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:02:32 hi everyone - here's a link to our agenda 01:02:42 #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1 01:03:14 the goal of this meeting is to introduce people and then be able to answer questions about our upcoming workshop 01:03:24 #topic Introductions 01:04:15 let's do introductions alphabetically from the top - if you can give your name, institution, location and anything you'd like to add about your FOSS experience that would be great! 01:04:25 also, please start your intro with #info 01:04:51 #info Hi all! I'm Darci Burdge Professor of CS at Nassau Community College. I am a member of the foss2serve team. 01:04:59 #info I am Dee Weikle. I teach computer science at EMU in Harrisonburg VA and am very new to HFOSS 01:05:39 heidie: are you there? 01:05:50 Hi, sorry 01:05:53 My internet keeps cutting out. 01:05:58 can you do a quick intro? 01:06:01 #info I am Alan Rea. Professor of Information Systems at Western Michigan Univ. I've been using FOSS for some time and regularly use it in courses. 01:06:13 by using her nick, she gets pinged 01:06:37 Oh, sure! 01:06:44 docrea: Sorry I think I went before you out of order... 01:06:52 #info I am Heidi Ellis, Prof at Western New England University and member of the foss2serve team. 01:06:56 #info I am Jeannie French, Assoc. Prof at Coastal Carolina in Conway, SC. I'm new to HFOSS. 01:07:00 Joe Welch, Hartnell College Salinas CA (spinach capital!) - new to FOSS - very interested in bringing to classes as projects and skill development assignments 01:07:05 no problem - IRC can be challenging as it is hard to determine wait time 01:07:05 Just got back from a 2-day meeting with folks from Red Hat, partially about POSSE. 01:07:13 #info Kevin Buffardi, Professor of CS at California State University-Chico, and am integrating FOSS projects into my Software Engineering class. 01:07:18 often multiple conversations occur at the same time :) 01:07:58 #info I'm Lori Postner - I work at Nassau Community College (along with Darci) and am a member of the foss2serve team 01:08:45 #info Hi everyone, I am Stefan Christov, I teach Software Engineering at Quinnipiac University in Hamden, CT. I am new to FOSS and I am interested in FOSS in health care. 01:09:26 stefan_c - that's great! one of the projects we've worked with is OpenMRS (more later) 01:09:38 # Tom Naps, CS Prof at UW Oshkosh, hope to use HFOSS in my SE II course in the spring 01:09:59 * dweikle waves to everyone 01:10:05 rescal, did we skip you? 01:10:23 Very much a noivice at IRC as you can see by my forgetting the #info tag 01:11:02 * lorip thinking should I move on? 01:11:10 #info Tom Naps, CS Prof at UW Oshkosh, hope to use HFOSS in my SE II course in the spring 01:11:20 I added it so that it appears in the minutes 01:11:21 FWIW rescal has been logged on at least since around 5:30 when I joined 01:11:23 :) 01:11:23 thanks darci! 01:12:19 I "lurked" at the meeting on Monday morning - it was useful! 01:12:19 feel free to jump in with questions, comments. thoughts at any point 01:12:28 this is very casual 01:12:57 #topic IRC commands and features 01:13:02 dweikle: we wondered if your were doing that! very wise! 01:13:12 Heidi explained later that "lurking" - being on without physical being there is totally acceptable - made me happy 01:13:13 any general questions about IRC? 01:13:33 yes! it is a great way to learn! 01:14:01 My biggest question (think I might know the answer) is why this instead of Skype or Google chat? 01:14:11 good question! 01:14:23 Is it mostly used for meetings or long-term ongoing discussions? 01:14:27 I think there is a historical answer here - heidie, can you answer this? 01:14:50 It has low bandwidth, so everyone has access. 01:14:54 My answer guess is - automatic minutes, low tech needs, little overhead on machine... 01:14:58 * lorip did she leave because I asked a question? :) 01:15:24 She keeps losing her connection! :) 01:15:41 many hfoss projects are in developing countries, so it has a low barrier 01:15:59 IRC has been a staple of tech communities given that the only option for some time was the terminal. 01:16:20 And, of course, the terminal is a low-bandwidth solution still. 01:16:30 the other nice feature is that you can be "on" but not paying attention - if someone wants your attention they can ping you 01:17:06 will you ping me so I can see the system response? 01:17:17 Joe_W 01:17:26 did you see/hear anything? 01:17:34 I did not... 01:17:45 hmm - what client are you using? 01:17:53 using HydraIRC 01:18:27 I haven't used that - does anyone else have experience with that? 01:18:46 No worries...I will research...thanks 01:19:02 You need to /msg 01:19:31 like 01:19:44 Of course /ping should also work 01:20:28 I've never used HydraIRC, but I've really liked Pidgin for chatting on Windows machines 01:20:57 I've only used chatzilla, so I have limited experience 01:21:15 You can use Pidgin for IRC as well. 01:21:32 our next topic is HFOSS projects - can I move on? 01:21:40 sure 01:21:41 sounds good... 01:21:43 yes 01:21:44 ok with me 01:21:51 sure 01:21:52 sure 01:21:57 #topic HFOSS projects 01:21:58 * docrea nods 01:22:36 hopefully you've had a chance to look through the projects we've worked with - thoughts on your interest? 01:23:20 #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/HFOSS_Communities 01:23:20 I am interested in Moustrap partly because it has an engineering aspect and we are trying to expand our pre -engineering program into a full engineering program 01:24:03 All of the projects sound interesting though 01:24:04 Many of our students hope to work for Epic Medical Software (epic.com) out of Madison WI. So I think they may be highly motivated to work on OpenMRS 01:24:21 I think my interest was already made clear -- OpenMRS :) I am hoping to use it in the context of a course on software engineering in health care that we are currently developing 01:24:27 tom_n - what is Epic Medical Software? 01:24:40 I am interested in OpenMRS, Mifos and Ushahidi....are to choices to be only from this list? 01:25:01 Multiple of them sound interesting but if I had to choose a favorite, OpenMRS or MouseTrap 01:25:29 I'm also thinking MouseTrap 01:25:38 They are a very fast growing company that provides a variety of medical administration software. In recent year, they have hired hundreds of new employees, incliding many from UWOshkosh 01:26:01 Joe_W: we try to have professors work in one of these projects so we have a group of faculty who can help each other 01:26:12 sounds great - thanks! 01:26:42 tom_n: I'll have to check out their website 01:27:26 does anyone have language or platform restrictions? 01:27:46 Epic was founded by a UW Madison graduate and is still a privately held company. Have a huge five-building campus in Verona, south of Madison 01:28:11 I don't think so permanently, but my system is run by my IS department so there may be a delay in particular installations... 01:28:14 tom_n: is there software open source? 01:28:14 I have 50+ students in my SE class and have them work in teams of ~5 so if it's feasible for the projects, I'd like to get students involved in more than one project 01:28:42 oops, their, not there 01:28:48 Our students will be most comfortable with Java, and I think that is the primary language used in OpenMRS 01:29:24 We teach both Python and Java in the first year using Eclipse primarily, I am looking forward to learning more tools to have them use like github 01:29:28 that is, have different teams of ~5 working on different projects, ideally 01:29:48 tom_n: yes, OpenMRS is a good choice if your students know Java 01:29:54 We teach Python, C++ in first year - and have some emphasis on Git/GitHub 01:30:05 We should be okay. They don't take Python anymore, but I can get them up to speed. 01:30:31 Our students learn Java and a little bit of Scala. 01:30:39 I am concerned about which class I can work this in. I'll have to be creative. 01:30:41 KevinBuffardi: this is a good topic for Stage 2 - people have various thoughts on having students work on the same project or different ones 01:30:55 Epic Software is not open source. In fact they use they use their own proprietary DB optimzed for medical records as opposed to a traditional relational DB. The UW grad who started the company was a DB specialist. 01:31:38 jfrench: what classes do you teach? 01:31:38 tom_n: very interesting 01:32:00 I am only teaching 2 this fall. Dbase and PHP. 01:33:35 darci: I seem to recall that PHP is used in some projects, do you recall this? 01:33:58 Oh wait.. sorry... Multimedia and PHP. I can probably put it in my multimedia class. 01:34:09 jfrench: one of the things that I am considering is a student ACM project in HFOSS to get started... 01:34:47 Yes, not sure, but probably in OpenMRS as well as Ushahidi 01:35:08 I just got our students together for our new ACM-W chapter and thought I could use a project for them, maybe. I need some student research projects for that. 01:35:28 dweikle & jfrench: that sounds like a great idea! 01:36:36 We don't have enough women to have an ACM-W, but I thought the few I have might do a small project as well... 01:36:39 Question: There are notes on the Ushahidi foss2serv page noting they are thinking about an Android app in 2013, but I see no mention of it on the new site #link https://wiki.ushahidi.com/display/WIKI/Installing+Ushahidi+3.x 01:37:59 Our guys tend to like programming competitions which are not as interesting in general to the women 01:38:17 docrea: I seem to recall something about that, but I don't know the current status - we have a faculty member who has worked with them for years, we can ask him what he knows 01:38:21 #link https://github.com/ushahidi/platform-android -- Just found this link 01:38:34 darci: will Cam be joining us in NC? 01:38:40 Yes! 01:39:14 Ah, OK. Thanks. I was following links all over the place. 01:39:31 docrea: Cam is the faculty member I just mentioned who has worked with Ushahidi for several years 01:39:33 Cam will be a great Ushahidi resource. 01:39:40 +1 01:40:02 * heidie reminds herself that "+1" is shorthand for showing agreement with a statement. 01:40:44 * lorip thinking, are they other questions or should I move on (it is getting late on the east coast!) 01:41:01 ready to move on... 01:41:07 Sure :-) 01:41:09 me too 01:41:09 no questions... 01:41:09 let's keep moving 01:41:11 Moving on OK with me 01:41:19 me too 01:41:45 #topic General Questions 01:42:05 any general questions about the activities thus far or about travel to Raleigh? 01:42:38 I have no questions right now - appreciate the organization of the activities... 01:43:02 we also greatly appreciate feedback - are our time estimates OK? 01:43:04 maybe this is too specific, but it looks like the last flight departing out of Raleigh for me is 5pm… which seems like it might be a rush if we're finishing at 3pm 01:43:08 I am driving so that should be easy, will hotel rooms be set up for us and will we be sharing hotel rooms 01:43:24 We don't individually take care of hotel reservations in Raleigh, correct? 01:43:28 * docrea in the same boat as Kevin. 01:43:40 I just got back from three week trip to Boston, so I might have missed the travel info??? I will drive, but need the room info. 01:43:56 We are still working on the room block. 01:44:06 I have spent more time on the activities, but I think it is because I am new to this stuff and a bit type A about making sure I get it... 01:44:07 And you will have your own hotel room. 01:44:11 You will receive an email sometime soon with information about rooms. 01:44:24 Greg should be distributing information about hotel in the next day or so. 01:44:25 Rooms - got it. Thanks! 01:44:29 Great about the hotel rooms and finding in the future! 01:44:53 Have we had to fill out any forms or anything? 01:44:54 The rooms are reserved, but he is still working with the Drexel folks about whether we give the hotel a list of names or whether you call the hotel and tell them that you're part of the POSSE block. 01:45:00 Nope, no forms. 01:45:06 Okay. 01:45:15 And there are two possible restaurants for dinner. 01:45:21 KevinBuffardi: if the last flight is 5pm, that should work, we hope to wrap up around 3pm (darci & I fly out at 5:30 or so) 01:45:34 #link http://www.relishraleigh.com/ 01:45:35 KevinBuffardi: We understand that some may have to leave a bit earlier, especially when there are few or not options for later flights. 01:45:46 #link http://www.vicsitalianrestaurant.com/ 01:45:55 My flight out of Raleigh to Chicago leaves at 6:00 01:46:17 Sure, we can handle 5:00 or later flights. 01:47:02 heidie: Is Vics the place we ate last time? 01:47:10 Yes. 01:47:21 Vics is within walking distance of Red Hat. 01:47:26 Relish is driving distance. 01:47:49 our next IRC is scheduled for the week of August 17th - we will do another doodle poll closer to the date 01:47:52 Relish has southern food. Ate there yesterday. Had boiled peanut hummus, fried black-eyed peas and mac and cheese. 01:48:07 We will be meeting in the Red Hat Annex which is the building next door to the main Red Hat office. 01:48:15 in the meantime, please feel free to email any of us with questions 01:48:24 Thank you. 01:48:34 Yes, thanks! 01:48:37 and if you want to lurk at our next IRC, it is Thurs at 2pm 01:48:39 I love Tir Na Nog in Raleigh... I'll have to hit it for dinner on the way home :) 01:49:01 Thanks for setting this up. I feel a bit more comfortable using IRC 01:49:08 thanks...first irc...very helpful 01:49:09 Me, too. 01:49:15 Thank you for all your help with the organization! 01:49:21 Jfrench: I will likely be up for that before I leave... what kind of food is that exactly. 01:49:32 Irish and the live music is wonderful! 01:49:45 Good! IRC is great fun. 01:49:48 Definitely up for that! 01:50:24 * lorip thinking any remaining questions? 01:50:36 I am happy! 01:50:41 None from me 01:50:43 I'm good 01:50:47 I am all set. 01:50:55 * docrea has no questions. 01:50:59 Looking forward to meeting everyone face-to-face! 01:51:09 looking forward to it 01:51:14 Me too! 01:51:16 Me too 01:51:19 As well! 01:51:21 Me too, should be an exciting meeting. 01:51:24 ok - thanks everyone! 01:51:34 * dweikle waves good-bye 01:51:42 I'm going to end the meet bot and post the log online 01:52:05 bye all! 01:52:08 it will be posted at #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Stage_1_Activities#Part_A:_First_Two_Weeks if you want to check out the other meetings 01:52:21 #endmeeting