01:08:15 #startmeeting 01:08:15 Meeting started Tue Nov 10 01:08:15 2015 UTC. The chair is camm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:08:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:08:47 I'm watching my email for other Ushahidians 01:09:02 So we have Rob, Josh, Lori and me 01:09:22 Joe Welch and Alan Rea won't join us 01:09:53 Rather than roll-call I've gathered everyone's Ushahidi use-case 01:10:06 Josh Dehlinger - Towson University - i am currently using it as a part of an independent study class with 2 students to adapt into one of our existing citizen science projects 01:10:13 Lori Postner - I am hoping to use the Ushahidi apis in my Mobile App Development class/sophomore year/200 level 01:10:20 Robert Sjodin - Software Engineering, taught in the Fall (now), but I may be able to do something this Spring in a Mobile Course. 01:10:56 Cam Macdonell - MacEwan University - general Ushahidi Helper, I use Ushahidi in Software Engineering 01:11:17 So that saves some people some typing 01:11:54 JDehlinger: can I pick on you to say how your Ushahidi use is progressing? 01:12:02 How is the Wavyleaf? 01:12:05 of course 01:12:55 my students have it up and running locally and we are 1-2 weeks away from having it public - which will be nice to have something to show 01:13:59 Using V2, correct? 01:13:59 for them, it took a little of re-engineering. we had existing mobile apps, php scripts and a database set up...so their task was to figure out what ushahidi needed, the data format and how we could write a small wrapper in our php scripts so that it would be in a better format for ushahidi 01:14:06 yes, v2 01:14:26 for us, we mostly wanted the data mapping/visualization provided by ushahidi 01:14:48 and the public will be able to make reports? 01:15:03 it took a lot of time for them playing around with uhsahidi and figuring out how we can use the various categories 01:15:28 correct, the mobile apps are public and can submit info - sort of a citizen science project 01:16:22 Did you make mobile apps or will the public just use iOS/Android versions of Ushahidi 01:16:50 we had existing mobile apps for the past 2 years or so 01:16:52 #topic Summary of Ushahidi work 01:16:56 (a little late) 01:17:16 #info JDehlinger - my students have it up and running locally and we are 1-2 weeks away from having it public 01:17:30 * camm is trying to make the "minutes" useful 01:17:53 Hello Kate! 01:18:00 Hi! 01:18:44 Here's Kate's Ushahidi use-case - Kate Lockwood - Software engineering for upper division students. 01:19:04 (I'm trying to save people re-typing what they do every meeting) 01:19:09 #idea going forward, as a group we might want to come up with some kind of ushahidi-specific assessment/evaluation for students to look at how FOSS/ushahidi contributed to student interest/motivation/etc 01:19:24 oooh we have that already 01:20:09 we'll make sure to get it to you 01:20:32 JDehlinger: repeated question - Did you make mobile apps or will the public just use iOS/Android versions of Ushahidi 01:20:34 Apologies for being late - kids are extra crazy tonight. Are we doing updates? My biggest accomplishment since last meeting is that I have an appointment to meet with our service learning coordinator to talk about how to get our SE course certified - should have an update on that by next Ushahidi meeting 01:21:08 Yes, We're in the middle of updates. 01:21:20 camm: we have our own mobile apps that we'll continue to use - unfortunately they were developed and have been used for ~2 years 01:21:55 Can the public report incidents with them that will end up in your Ushahidi deployment? 01:22:08 yes 01:22:34 That was the scripting part your students figured out? 01:23:30 the needed to slightly rewrite our existing php scripts meant for our old database to ones that are easier for the ushahidi format 01:23:39 cool 01:23:46 And now I see you mentioned "we had existing mobile apps", sorry I missed that 01:24:09 thanks for all the explanations 01:24:47 This kinda fits with Lori's needs since she wants to exclusively do the mobile side 01:25:19 lorip: I have some links for you, but do you want to say anything first? 01:25:27 yes 01:25:37 our mobile apps are open source and i can provide the repo if helpful 01:26:20 I'm in the process of designing a project for my mobile app class where my students will be retrieving data from a Ushahidi deployment, parsing the data and displaying it on a google map 01:26:50 they have been playing around with openweathermap and I want them to use Ushahidi to try what we've done with openweathermap on their own 01:27:37 so I was asking Camm about good deployments - I was hoping for something with data on from the NE so it would be relevant to my students 01:27:47 KateLockwood: I just had to tell my kids to settle down, so don't feel bad :) 01:27:51 does this fit with any of your work josh? 01:28:02 right now I'm looking at 01:28:15 #link https://riosalado.crowdmap.com 01:28:17 and 01:28:28 our work is focused on an invasive species found in MD/PA/VA...so not really 01:28:29 #link https://hpsandy.crowdmap.com 01:28:45 Yes, I was going to suggest that one 01:29:17 Crowdmap are Ushahidi V2 deployments that are hosted by Ushahidi itself 01:29:30 as in Ushahidi the organization 01:30:00 Here's a few other crowdmap - https://womenandgirlsonthemap.crowdmap.com/ 01:30:11 I was hoping for something a bit more recent - I was reading about the use for snow removal in NY last year, but can't find it 01:30:52 The best place to ask is the Ushahidi gitter/IRC/etc channel 01:31:03 since they typically know who set the site up 01:31:16 Here's another (quite a tragic topic) https://womenundersiegesyria.crowdmap.com/ 01:31:28 but may motivate some students 01:31:38 Here are some non-crowdmap ones 01:32:00 I was questioning how my students might react to the topics of some of these 01:32:08 indeed 01:32:24 there could be some triggers to be cautious of 01:32:37 So non-crowdmap 01:32:40 http://www.skywatchmap.org/ 01:32:44 my plan was to give a number of choices and if they find others they want to use that would be find as well 01:33:02 ^ chemtrails for your conspiracy theorist students 01:33:08 https://www.nepalmonitor.org/ 01:33:34 what is chemtrails? 01:34:31 Specific "cloud" formations that chemtrail supporters are not natural and are actually the govt dispersing mind-control narcotics via what look like airplane exhaust 01:34:54 chemtrail supports *say* are not 01:35:19 aah, yes I understand the conspiracy theory comment now 01:35:39 Here's one that's atleast north, if not east US - http://www.greatlakescommonsmap.org/ 01:36:13 how are you finding all of these? 01:36:24 I asked in the Ushahidi chat channel 01:36:36 And one more http://atwww.stopthebribes.net/ 01:36:37 ok - thanks! 01:37:26 Ya, I encourage every to at least lurk there, they're very friendly 01:37:28 so I hope to have more to report next time on how my students did... 01:37:37 Cool, 01:38:06 And lorip you could possibly use Josh's when it's public 01:38:36 I think one of the cool lessons about APIs is having student understand that if these sites use the same API, then mobile apps can work with all of them 01:38:38 that would be awesome - it would be great for my students to use what josh's created! 01:39:08 the API is the "agreement" between services and mobile apps 01:39:11 more pressure on my students to get it up soon :) 01:39:33 lorip's course is next term, so you have a bit of time 01:39:36 exactly... this is my first time teaching APIs and JSON parsing and I am really enjoying it (and I hope my students are too) 01:39:52 camm: my class is this term, darci teaches it next term 01:39:52 Oh, you're doing it now, my mistake 01:40:03 I'm planning to give this assignment on Thursday - UGH! 01:40:35 rsjodin: can you give an update? 01:40:41 but josh, it would be great if you had something for darci next semester 01:41:04 my student graduates this semester, so it has to be up by dec 1 01:41:49 I’ve been browsing aroung GitHub and the wiki; I’m not sure where to start. 01:42:52 Last meeting you were asking about the mobile app, did you get it installed? 01:43:27 It’s installed on my phone; but I haven’t downloaded the source. 01:44:20 Have you configured the app on your phone to use a back-end server? 01:44:35 Any one of the links above should work 01:44:35 No. 01:44:41 Ok 01:44:42 That would be the next step 01:44:58 I’ll do that. 01:45:38 The next step would be building your own version in either iOS or Android 01:46:27 Is there documentation that describes that? 01:47:19 There's some here - https://github.com/ushahidi/Ushahidi_Android 01:47:59 and that is the Android App itself. Building it should be a matter of checking the code out via git with Android Studio and building it. 01:48:16 Alan Rea would be a good person to ask as he has done it recently 01:48:56 The README says that it’s deprecated. 01:49:00 I'm keeping an eye on the time here, KateLockwood do you have anything to add? 01:49:33 Not really. I should have my course proposal approved soon. That’s the first hurdle. 01:49:41 Then service learning ceritification 01:49:48 rsjodin: yes, because of the move to Version 3, but if V2 deployments are very common and you must use the V2 mobile app with them 01:50:08 I can teach the class once under our provisional “special topics” approval which I already have, but if we want to keep offering it, we need to go through a whole process. 01:50:11 I don 01:50:33 My university is just getting service learning policies firmed up, so I'll be interested to hear how yours goes 01:50:37 I don’t know if any of my materials would be useful to anyone else, but I’d be happy to share my course proposal and servic elearning justification once I have it finished 01:50:56 sure 01:51:08 that would be great! 01:51:30 #topic planning our next meeting 01:52:27 At the end of last meeting we mentioned trying a screen-sharing tool 01:52:55 my crazy idea is that Lori and Josh could each give a brief demo of what their students have done this term 01:53:08 That would be great! I’d really like to see that 01:53:52 I realize end of term is a nutty time, but I want to emphasize that we don't need anything fancy 01:54:00 i'm not sure how that might work as we deploy to a tablet 01:54:23 i could do that - i'd likely ask my students to prepare a small youtube video 01:54:24 Can you run the code in an Android simulator? 01:54:55 haven't tried, but will 01:55:26 If it runs on devices, it can run in the simulator, it's just slower 01:55:46 ok 01:56:23 Ok, so let's settle on a date. Josh mentioned Dec 1 as a due date, Nov 30 would be our usual date, do we want to push back to say Dec 7? 01:56:34 4 weeks from today 01:56:51 works for me 01:56:53 That works for me. 01:56:59 me too :) 01:57:06 Sure! 01:57:29 I hope seeing some stuff running can help rsjodin and KateLockwood and other "next term" instructors to get some ideas what's possible/reasonable 01:57:56 OK, so let's go with Dec 7th 01:57:56 how are we going to do the screen sharing - I missed that last meeting 01:58:27 Likely a Google hangout 01:59:07 But if Josh's students make Youtube videos, then we *may* not need depending how Lori wants to show 01:59:27 ok - let me think about it and get back to you 01:59:33 Sure things 01:59:37 thing 01:59:50 Ok, any last questions/comments? 02:00:17 Going once 02:00:20 thanks for all the links camm, I really appreciate it! 02:00:22 not here 02:00:23 ...twice... 02:00:31 Gone 02:00:37 :) 02:00:54 Ok, good night everyone, feel free to email me if you questions/ideas, we can talk in between these meetings too 02:01:04 Thank you. 02:01:04 #endmeeting