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17:01:00 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
17:01:25 <ignatenkobrain> .hello2
17:01:26 <zodbot> ignatenkobrain: ignatenkobrain 'Igor Raits' <igor.raits@gmail.com>
17:01:33 * limburgher here
17:01:56 <geppetto> #chair ignatenkobrain
17:01:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto ignatenkobrain
17:01:58 <geppetto> #chair limburgher
17:01:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto ignatenkobrain limburgher
17:02:03 <tibbs> Hey.
17:02:28 <geppetto> #chair tibbs
17:02:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto ignatenkobrain limburgher tibbs
17:02:31 * carlwgeorge waves
17:02:39 <geppetto> #chair carlwgeorge
17:02:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge geppetto ignatenkobrain limburgher tibbs
17:03:02 <decathorpe> .hello2
17:03:03 <zodbot> decathorpe: decathorpe 'Fabio Valentini' <decathorpe@gmail.com>
17:03:06 <geppetto> #chair decathorpe
17:03:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain limburgher tibbs
17:09:02 <geppetto> #topic Schedule
17:09:06 <geppetto> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/2VGFSYNDQHDDH2ANT7GEZ5ZT76JU37IX/
17:09:17 <geppetto> #topic #pr-814 Add SELinux Independent Policy Guidelines.
17:10:18 <geppetto> Bah, sorry wrong one …
17:10:24 <geppetto> #topic #pr-1045 WIP: Add discussion of macro names beginning with underscores.
17:10:32 <geppetto> #link https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1045
17:11:14 <geppetto> Ok, this is somewhat new … I think we mentioned it in open floor or something
17:12:03 <geppetto> Did we want to talk about the last comment … or just wait until tibbs has changed the proposal?
17:12:19 <decathorpe> I already gave my 2 ¢
17:12:34 <tibbs> Yeah, I need to rework it a bit.
17:13:18 <geppetto> #action tibbs to rework wording to be clearer and mostly limit to double _'s.
17:13:24 <decathorpe> I think we already agreed on the general "double underscore macros are internal implementation details" years ago? :)
17:13:25 <tibbs> The problem is that there's really just a random collection of things with underscores, and the only ones that people should be using (other than to set them) are the single underscore ones that resolve to directories.
17:13:35 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor
17:14:08 <tibbs> There are single-underscore ones that are internal, too.
17:14:14 <geppetto> decathorpe: Can we remove the action item for you (look through the open tickets) or did you want to keep it open a bit longer?
17:14:23 <geppetto> tibbs: Yeh, hence mostly :)
17:14:39 <geppetto> good luck with that wording ;)
17:14:39 <tibbs> In part some of this would be a guideline for macro authors to please make things work this way.
17:16:33 * geppetto nods
17:16:36 <decathorpe> geppetto: you mean #719 ?
17:17:15 <geppetto> decathorpe: No, you have an open floor action item on the schedule "decathorpe - look through non-meeting tickets, see if any are stuck/need to be discussed'
17:17:35 <decathorpe> ah. yeah I do not have time for either of those things :D
17:17:40 <geppetto> :)
17:17:48 <geppetto> Ok, I'll just remove it
17:17:53 <tibbs> That should be a general thing anyway.
17:18:03 <geppetto> Obviously anyone else is free to take a look whenever
17:18:06 <tibbs> I really need to spend some time on it myself.
17:18:25 <geppetto> Yeh, but I think decathorpe volunteered when he had a bit more free time late last year
17:18:28 * geppetto nods
17:19:15 <decathorpe> Sounds right. Alas, motivation, energy, and time are scarce resources recently
17:20:08 <geppetto> yeh, the long March is about to wrap around
17:20:30 <geppetto> Ok, I'm going to close in a minute or so unless anyone wants to bring anything up
17:20:45 <limburgher> Nothing here.
17:20:50 <tibbs> Nothing from me.
17:20:57 <decathorpe> I think there was something about the old wiki somewhere?
17:21:16 <decathorpe> something about Users and Groups being outdated and having a redirect yet
17:21:17 <tibbs> Yeah, mention of the users and groups page, which is one of the ones we haven't finished with yet.
17:21:26 <decathorpe> yeah that was the one.
17:22:06 <tibbs> The procedure is basically: check that the wiki conversion actually worked without losing data, then replace the wiki page with the magic for redirecting things to the docs site (which I have forgotten now).
17:22:37 <decathorpe> yeah maybe we can recruit the person who reported the issue to do the checking ;)
17:22:48 <geppetto> 👍
17:25:58 <geppetto> #endmeeting