16:02:14 <geppetto> #startmeeting fpc
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16:02:14 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
16:02:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fpc'
16:02:38 <tibbs> Hey.
16:02:43 <carlwgeorge> .hi
16:02:44 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' <carl@redhat.com>
16:02:48 <geppetto> #chair tibbs
16:02:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto tibbs
16:02:52 <tibbs> Sorry about last week; I was sitting at home without power.
16:02:53 <geppetto> #chair carlwgeorge
16:02:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge geppetto tibbs
16:03:15 <geppetto> Not much you could do about that
16:03:34 <decathorpe> .hi
16:03:35 <zodbot> decathorpe: decathorpe 'Fabio Valentini' <decathorpe@gmail.com>
16:03:36 <GwynCieslasheher> .hi
16:03:38 <zodbot> GwynCieslasheher: Sorry, but user 'GwynCieslasheher' does not exist
16:03:51 <GwynCieslasheher> tibbs: good times!
16:04:08 <geppetto> #chair GwynCieslasheher
16:04:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge geppetto tibbs
16:05:21 <GwynCieslasheher> But I do...I swear
16:05:54 <decathorpe> is it just me or does it look like some messages are dropped coming from IRC -> Matrix?
16:06:06 <GwynCieslasheher> Hard to say from the Matrix side.
16:06:13 <GwynCieslasheher> I've heard of that happening recently.
16:06:15 <decathorpe> I didn't see #startmeeting for example
16:06:48 <carlwgeorge> bridging is such a bad experience
16:06:49 <geppetto> I had planned to switch to matrix this year, but haven't used it in months now :(
16:07:37 <tibbs> I tried to switch to matrix but couldn't find a client that I could stomach.
16:07:43 <geppetto> #chair decathorpe
16:07:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge decathorpe geppetto tibbs
16:07:48 <jonathanspw> .hi
16:07:49 <zodbot> jonathanspw: jonathanspw 'Jonathan Wright' <jonathan@almalinux.org>
16:07:58 <carlwgeorge> i'm on the irc more often but i'd also be ok with fedora dropping the bridge and going full matrix for meetings
16:08:01 <decathorpe> element web client is still the best, sadly
16:08:12 * geppetto nods
16:08:15 <jonathanspw> carlwgeorge: eww not yet another chat client :(
16:08:27 <carlwgeorge> just another browser tab :D
16:08:29 <GwynCieslasheher> I use Element flatpak for another account and SchildiChat flatpak for this one.
16:08:58 <geppetto> I think I tried element, didn't seem better than web.
16:08:58 <GwynCieslasheher> The associated android apps are good.
16:09:19 <geppetto> Although it was somewhat nice to have a dedicated app.
16:09:30 * geppetto nods
16:09:51 <GwynCieslasheher> Yeah. Personal preference really.
16:10:55 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor
16:11:00 <GwynCieslasheher> I'm sure there will be more clients and the existing ones will mature. It's not like IRC which is decades old and well understood.
16:11:04 <GwynCieslasheher> nheko isn't bad.
16:11:07 <geppetto> Nothing new/changed, so anyone have anything?
16:11:22 <geppetto> 1193 got a comment that looks like we should just move it to needinfo
16:11:26 <geppetto> or something.
16:11:39 <GwynCieslasheher> Nope
16:12:06 <decathorpe> I opened https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1204
16:12:32 <decathorpe> the changes should be non-controversial, mostly cleanups of stuff for old Fedora releases, and a few clarifications
16:12:52 <decathorpe> also split into different commits, so the review should be relatively straightforward
16:14:24 <geppetto> yeh, unless someone shouts soon I'll click the merge button
16:14:33 <GwynCieslasheher> Go for it
16:14:59 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa
16:15:00 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com>
16:15:04 * Eighth_Doctor waves
16:15:11 <decathorpe> hi Neal :)
16:15:20 <geppetto> #chair Eighth_Doctor
16:15:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge decathorpe geppetto tibbs
16:15:25 <Eighth_Doctor> lgtm
16:15:42 <tibbs> 1204 looks good to me.
16:15:44 <Eighth_Doctor> neochat is getting pretty good too
16:15:55 <Eighth_Doctor> the incomplete E2EE stuff is the main gap
16:16:17 <tibbs> I used neochat and it was borderline unusable for me.
16:16:21 <GwynCieslasheher> Which is the only reason I don't use the native packaged clients.
16:16:34 <geppetto> Eighth_Doctor: not like irc has that though
16:18:07 <geppetto> Anything else?
16:18:41 <decathorpe> I'm good, thanks
16:19:22 <geppetto> #action bcotton Fix matrix bridge and clients.
16:19:48 <decathorpe> oh no :D
16:19:53 <carlwgeorge> haha
16:19:56 <geppetto> And on that note … Enjoy your 40 mins. back :)
16:20:02 <GwynCieslasheher> Thanks all!
16:20:16 <geppetto> #endmeeting