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17:00:15 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
17:00:36 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa
17:00:37 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com>
17:00:44 <carlwgeorge> .hi
17:00:45 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' <carl@redhat.com>
17:00:52 <GwynCieslasheher> .hi
17:00:53 <zodbot> GwynCieslasheher: Sorry, but user 'GwynCieslasheher' does not exist
17:01:05 <geppetto> #chair Eighth_Doctor
17:01:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor geppetto
17:01:10 <geppetto> #chair carlwgeorge
17:01:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor carlwgeorge geppetto
17:01:14 <geppetto> #chair GwynCieslasheher
17:01:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge geppetto
17:02:15 <decathorpe> hello O/
17:02:21 <geppetto> Got a message from tibbs that he won't be able to make it today
17:02:24 <geppetto> #chair decathorpe
17:02:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge decathorpe geppetto
17:08:42 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor
17:08:57 <geppetto> So … no new tickets, and nothing changed on the old ones.
17:09:06 <geppetto> Anyone have anything to talk about?
17:09:37 <carlwgeorge> i have several things i said i'd work on but haven't gotten to yet, sorry
17:09:51 <geppetto> Anyone goto FOSDEM and have anything cool/interesting to mention?
17:09:52 <decathorpe> Uhm, same here. :D
17:10:48 <Eighth_Doctor> went to fosdem, very dead now though
17:11:02 <Eighth_Doctor> met the godot folks, which was neat
17:11:54 <geppetto> 👍
17:12:11 <Eighth_Doctor> oh, and changed jobs :P
17:12:17 <Eighth_Doctor> so now I'm collapsing under the weight of new hire onboarding
17:12:29 <GwynCieslasheher> Congrats!
17:12:31 <geppetto> I heard something about that ;)
17:12:39 <GwynCieslasheher> And for the latter, condolences. :)
17:15:37 <GwynCieslasheher> My $dayjob is in consulting, and while onboarding at my employer and the company that subsequently purchased us weren't too bad, it's a major headache at the clients I've worked at.
17:15:51 <GwynCieslasheher> It's just a hard problem and few are good at it.
17:15:59 <Eighth_Doctor> oh wow
17:16:25 <Eighth_Doctor> yeah, when I was at datto, we worked really hard to streamline onboarding and make the experience pleasant
17:16:35 <geppetto> When I worked as a consultant, I almost never got any onboarding … so win for me? ;)
17:16:37 <GwynCieslasheher> It's not easy.
17:16:40 <Eighth_Doctor> so few people focus on that sort of thing, but imo, first impressions are a big deal
17:17:07 <GwynCieslasheher> For sure. Sitting there with not access to anything or no hardware for a month isn't great for morale. Or retention.
17:17:29 <GwynCieslasheher> s/not/no/
17:18:19 <Eighth_Doctor> also, man having unified SSO has spoiled me
17:18:37 <Eighth_Doctor> it's a downer when it's not present
17:18:44 <carlwgeorge> i could totally see you moving over to hr and doing onboarding classes for new hire orientation
17:18:48 <GwynCieslasheher> for sure. Beats having two...or three separate SSO systems.
17:19:04 <carlwgeorge> you can talk about red hat better than most of hr i suspect
17:19:09 <Eighth_Doctor> lol
17:19:17 <GwynCieslasheher> lol
17:19:20 <Eighth_Doctor> I used to run part of the engineering track for NHO at Datto
17:19:42 <Eighth_Doctor> and I specifically did the OSS and Git intro sessions
17:20:30 <carlwgeorge> i've always thought it would be cool to teach a git intro class to folks that had never used it.  share some of the "ah ha" moments i've had over the years when certain things clicked.
17:21:15 <Eighth_Doctor> oh yeah, it was always fun
17:21:22 <Eighth_Doctor> and it's a surprisingly good way to evaluate new engineers
17:22:28 <GwynCieslasheher> It's their first troubleshooting problem in the new org. :)
17:22:56 <geppetto> carlwgeorge: Could just put all non-engineering job ads in fetlife too
17:24:44 <geppetto> Then teach intro to gimp … I'll stop now.
17:25:10 <GwynCieslasheher> Then emacs for toddlers.
17:25:26 <GwynCieslasheher> "Momma, my fingers don't reach!"
17:25:26 <geppetto> I thought emacs was dead now.
17:25:44 <GwynCieslasheher> 🤷‍♀️
17:25:52 <Eighth_Doctor> emacs ftw forever
17:26:26 <carlwgeorge> lol
17:27:14 <geppetto> I used to read my email in gnus, for over a decade … I haven't even booted emacs in at least five years.
17:27:20 <geppetto> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:27:44 <geppetto> I didn't help that I loved xemacs … and rmsemacs killed it.
17:29:11 <geppetto> Ahh, well … on that note we should close this weeks meeting of revisiting old trama for white beard ex-sysadmins. ;)
17:29:54 <geppetto> #endmeeting