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16:01:36 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
16:01:54 <tibbs> Hey.
16:01:57 <geppetto> #chair tibbs
16:01:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto tibbs
16:02:45 <geppetto> Hey, I will point out that I have to leave in 25 minutes or so … but obv. the meeting can go on someone else just hit the endmeeting command on the way out
16:03:13 <tibbs> That's assuming we even go for 25 minutes.
16:03:20 <geppetto> Yeh, that too
16:03:38 <carlwgeorge> .hi
16:03:40 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' <carl@redhat.com>
16:06:07 <Son_Goku> .hello ngompa
16:06:08 <zodbot> Son_Goku: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com>
16:07:16 <geppetto> #chair carlwgeorge
16:07:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge geppetto tibbs
16:07:20 <geppetto> #chair Son_Goku
16:07:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Son_Goku carlwgeorge geppetto tibbs
16:07:45 <geppetto> #chair Open Floor
16:07:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: Floor Open Son_Goku carlwgeorge geppetto tibbs
16:07:51 <geppetto> Anything anyone wants to talk about?
16:09:37 <tibbs> We will need to address PR 1300 at some point.
16:11:51 <tibbs> We can ack 1303 now, I guess (or not).
16:11:53 <geppetto> As deca said "Are there any official Fedora SCLs?"
16:12:46 <tibbs> Thinking back to the reason for the initial ban on this, I am pretty sure the issue was flatpaks.
16:12:48 <geppetto> If we are going to have the problem, I can see how we should address it … so if flatpaks are going to hit it … fair enough
16:13:01 <geppetto> Otherwise I feel like "it sucks to do weird things"
16:13:22 <tibbs> SCLs were always horrible but some people just really like them.
16:13:36 <geppetto> .fpc 1303
16:13:37 <zodbot> geppetto: Issue #1303: Review exception request: Split kexec-tools into kexec-tools, kdump-utils and makedumpfile - packaging-committee - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1303
16:13:55 <geppetto> Seems fine to me … +1
16:14:05 <tibbs> I don't know how to work around the conflict except to carve out an exception like "Except as required by SCLs, macros aren't allowed...."
16:14:24 <geppetto> tibbs: yeh, I guess that feels fine.
16:15:01 <geppetto> We won't get +5 for 1303 … but it seems so minor if all four of us agree I'll just pass it.
16:15:25 <tibbs> Let me comment since I'll have to approve the exception in the SCM system.
16:15:38 <geppetto> ok
16:16:22 <tibbs> Alternately we could just review the packages.
16:16:45 <tibbs> Sadly both spec URLs are invalid.
16:16:49 <carlwgeorge> do we usually approve review exceptions for packages that are splitting out from an existing package?
16:17:21 <tibbs> We have in the case of some big splits like some of the stuff that happened with X many years ago.
16:17:52 <carlwgeorge> seems fine by me, especially if there is precedent
16:17:57 <tibbs> Individual applications got split out and I just sort of mass acked them.
16:18:19 <geppetto> Yeh, I was prety sure we've done it when people asked.
16:18:21 <tibbs> Seems a waste of time for two packages, and I would really like to actually see the intended specfiles, but....
16:18:34 <carlwgeorge> i would like to peek at the spec files for a quick once over, but as tibbs pointed out their review links 404
16:20:43 <carlwgeorge> hmm, i interpreted this as moving existing subpackages out to their own spec files, but that doesn't seem to be the case
16:21:31 <geppetto> Oh, that's what I assumed too … what is happeneding then?
16:21:43 <carlwgeorge> `/usr/sbin/makedumpfile` is just a binary in kexec-tools
16:21:50 <tibbs> Yeah, we should just hold off until we can see the specfiles.
16:21:58 <carlwgeorge> i'm not sure what kdump-utils is supposed to be, as i can't see the new spec file
16:22:29 <geppetto> Ok … I guess we are probably done for this week then. Unless anyone has anything?
16:22:41 * geppetto points above that he has to leave in a couple of minutes
16:22:47 <tibbs> Not me.
16:23:12 <carlwgeorge> i can reply on that kexec thing and ask to see the spec files
16:23:23 <geppetto> Cool, thanks.
16:24:37 <geppetto> #endmeeting