2024-04-25 16:00:06 <@james:fedora.im> !startmeeting fpc

2024-04-25 16:00:06 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-04-25 16:00:06 UTC
2024-04-25 16:00:06 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fpc'
2024-04-25 16:00:09 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call

2024-04-25 16:00:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> neil gave a cookie to davdunc. They now have 30 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 40 release cycle
2024-04-25 16:00:21 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Hey.
2024-04-25 16:00:33 <@limb:fedora.im> !hi
2024-04-25 16:00:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gwyn Ciesla (limb) - she / her / hers
2024-04-25 16:00:41 <@james:fedora.im> !hi

2024-04-25 16:00:42 <@zodbot:fedora.im> James Antill (james)
2024-04-25 16:01:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-04-25 16:01:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-04-25 16:01:26 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> !hi 
2024-04-25 16:01:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his
2024-04-25 16:05:30 <@james:fedora.im> Well, we have five ... so just going to start.
2024-04-25 16:05:46 <@james:fedora.im> !topic FPC#1356 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1356
2024-04-25 16:06:15 <@james:fedora.im> I think tibbs comment is good here, and we can just move this to needinfo or waiting on someone or something?
2024-04-25 16:06:48 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> yeah. if https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/917 can be rebased that would be great 
2024-04-25 16:09:35 <@james:fedora.im> !topic PR#1361 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1361
2024-04-25 16:09:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-04-25 16:09:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-04-25 16:10:02 <@tibbs:fedora.im> I certainly don't feel confident to write the guidelines here, or review them for correctness.
2024-04-25 16:10:21 <@tibbs:fedora.im> I could rework the PR so it at least applies but not do anything useful.
2024-04-25 16:10:43 <@james:fedora.im> I guess we are doing this, so +1 and we should merge it ... although it'd be good if we completely removed absolute paths from running programs in all our examples (systemd files etc.)
2024-04-25 16:12:09 <@james:fedora.im> You don't think to current PR is enough/correct?
2024-04-25 16:12:39 <@james:fedora.im> Having missed some stuff is whatever ... we can't be perfect, esp. with a change this size.
2024-04-25 16:15:11 <@james:fedora.im> Wait ... were you talking about the minisign thing?
2024-04-25 16:16:05 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Yes, sorry.
2024-04-25 16:16:16 <@tibbs:fedora.im> I got behind.
2024-04-25 16:16:25 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Yes, 1361 is fine with me.
2024-04-25 16:19:42 <@james:fedora.im> !topic PR#1362 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1362
2024-04-25 16:20:12 <@james:fedora.im> Seems simple enough. Going to hit merge on this unless anyone speaks up.
2024-04-25 16:20:24 <@limb:fedora.im> Go for it
2024-04-25 16:20:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> seems reasonable
2024-04-25 16:20:45 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> authentication is still the wrong term :D
2024-04-25 16:20:51 <@salimma:fedora.im> welll
2024-04-25 16:20:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> it says authentication of the server
2024-04-25 16:21:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> don't care
2024-04-25 16:21:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> strip the sentence out then
2024-04-25 16:21:17 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> that's just ... weird 
2024-04-25 16:21:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> this is just going to confuse people
2024-04-25 16:21:41 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and frankly we don't actually care about connection authenticity that much
2024-04-25 16:21:45 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we care about source integrity
2024-04-25 16:22:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> this rule would have been a no-brainer without that false phrasing added
2024-04-25 16:22:11 <@james:fedora.im> !topic PR#1363 - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1363
2024-04-25 16:22:37 <@james:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: I merged before I saw your comment ... feel free to clean up the wording.
2024-04-25 16:23:40 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> LGTM
2024-04-25 16:23:42 <@james:fedora.im> I think I would like Fabio Valentini to ack this ... but it doesn't seem insane to me
2024-04-25 16:23:43 <@tibbs:fedora.im> 1363 seems fine to me.  There is so much magic down in there.
2024-04-25 16:24:34 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> I only have one Go package left to me, but it already uses "gometa -f" for ages
2024-04-25 16:24:41 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> so yeah the changes are fine
2024-04-25 16:24:52 <@james:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2024-04-25 16:25:26 <@james:fedora.im> Wow ... that's quite the offload you managed ;)
2024-04-25 16:25:36 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Should we be waiting for this mystery change request before doing anything about https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1360 ?
2024-04-25 16:26:10 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> 🤫 I am building with vendored deps now 🤫
2024-04-25 16:26:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2024-04-25 16:26:28 <@tibbs:fedora.im> It kind of seems harmless to just merge it, but it was kind of done in an odd way.
2024-04-25 16:26:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the change proposal went to the lists yesterday I think
2024-04-25 16:26:36 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we should wait
2024-04-25 16:27:14 <@salimma:fedora.im> I commented on it
2024-04-25 16:27:19 <@tibbs:fedora.im> And I would still like to see Miro comment on https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1358
2024-04-25 16:27:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> on the list I mean - seems slightly problematic. Java bytecode is not static (though very slow moving) so there should still be a way to specify some version requirements even on a "library" containing bytecode
2024-04-25 16:35:36 <@james:fedora.im> Anything else?
2024-04-25 16:36:22 <@tibbs:fedora.im> Not from me.
2024-04-25 16:37:30 <@limb:fedora.im> nope
2024-04-25 16:37:57 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> nö
2024-04-25 16:38:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> the umlauts make it very definitive
2024-04-25 16:38:53 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> nope
2024-04-25 16:39:08 <@limb:fedora.im> And metal.
2024-04-25 16:39:28 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> funnily enough, "nö" is just colloquial German for "no"
2024-04-25 16:39:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's gonna look fun in the logs
2024-04-25 16:39:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah, like ouay is colloquial French for oui
2024-04-25 16:40:08 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> ah aieouy 
2024-04-25 16:40:14 <@james:fedora.im> If they didn't want me to use rainbow commands, they shouldn't have given them to me
2024-04-25 16:40:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> so nö is nah in English?
2024-04-25 16:40:30 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> something like that yeah 
2024-04-25 16:40:43 <@decathorpe:fedora.im> though only used in Germany, not really in other German-speaking parts of Europe.
2024-04-25 16:40:57 <@james:fedora.im> !endmeeting