21:00:59 <bcotton> #startmeeting FPgM office hours
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21:03:51 <bcotton> #topic Open floor to discuss anything program management related (elections, changes, schedule, etc)
21:05:41 <pboy> I've quite a simple question on behalf of the docs team.
21:08:56 <bcotton> go ahead
21:09:13 <pboy> It's about the Fedora Accounts Documentation
21:09:23 <pboy> Someone imported the repo into the docs team repository space and later left the project.
21:09:37 <pboy> Contentwise it is not part of the docs team objectives.
21:09:45 <pboy> There is some work to do. Who is responsible for the content?
21:10:04 <bcotton> I'd say the Infrastructure Team owns that
21:10:07 <pboy> And what to do with the repo?
21:10:35 <pboy> OK, I'll ask infrastructure.
21:11:03 <bcotton> they maintain other documentation, so it shouldn't be a terrible surprise to them :-)
21:11:19 <pboy> hopefully
21:12:20 <pboy> thanks
21:14:34 <bcotton> you're welcome!
21:18:39 <nirik> Those are the end user docs for the new account system? yeah, those were made as part of that application rollout...
21:19:25 <nirik> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-accounts/user/ ?
21:20:38 <pboy> nirik our problem is, what to do with the repo?
21:20:56 <pboy> Who works on issues and merge requests?
21:21:13 <pboy> The docs team can't.
21:22:06 <nirik> yeah, good question. I mean infra can... but are there issues and MRs? it's pretty static... perhaps it should be moved into the application itself or upstream repo of the application?
21:22:07 <pboy> repo is at. https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/community-tools/fedora-accounts-docs
21:22:22 <nirik> I'm not sure how useful it is, but it might be for new users.
21:23:10 <pboy> Moving to someone who can take care or if would be fantastic.
21:23:22 <pboy> someone -> somewhere
21:23:54 <bcotton> if the bulk of it moves to upstream's responsibility, i could see the Join SIG maintaining a narrow set of Fedora-specific usage docs
21:24:23 <bcotton> It's not _entirely_ a "you're new to Fedora" thing, but I think most users would potentially be in that category
21:25:40 <nirik> I'd be happy with the join folks taking it on and adjusting it as they see fit .
21:27:33 <pboy> Well, I have no preference. I just don't want to pile up issues and MRs for months and years, because we don't know, who will work on it
21:36:51 <pboy> What is the next step? And who will do it?
21:37:00 <pboy> (Sorry, I don't want to push. But I'm struggling with so many longstanding issues and MR in docs that I'm already developing an allergy. :-) )
21:38:59 <bcotton> the fastest route is probably for the infra team to take it on for now
21:39:47 <bcotton> and then they can drive the upstream split if needed
21:42:33 * nirik nods. Fine with me.
21:45:37 <bcotton> nirik++
21:45:38 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for kevin changed to 26 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:45:53 <bcotton> wow, have i really not encookied kevin by this point in the cycle?!
21:55:54 <bcotton> #endmeeting