21:03:17 #startmeeting FUDCon APAC 2014 CFP decision 21:04:10 #topic CFD decision 21:04:40 I want to mention some guideline in my mind. 21:04:46 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I think zodbot is not here today 21:04:48 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 21:05:05 I did a rough count, find about 15 foreign, and 15 Chinese speakers. 21:05:40 #idea the number of acceptance of foreign and Chinese speakers should be more or less the same. 21:05:51 that means, 11 for each group. 21:06:10 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: 11 topic each 21:06:30 * zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19 wondering how to move zodbot here 21:07:09 #idea lightning talk is not counted in the total number (22) 21:07:19 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 21:07:22 zsun: oops, zodbot disappeared? 21:07:35 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: yes 21:08:07 it disappear in #fedora-zh too 21:08:29 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so, maybe server outage 21:08:47 yeah, I think I have some client log enabled. 21:09:53 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so we can continue as well 21:10:18 ok, let's continue. 21:10:21 tonghuix: here? 21:10:28 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: yes 21:10:56 let's check submission in row 3. 21:11:35 Nitesh Narayan Lal: Fedora Videos 21:11:58 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I vote +1 for Fedora Videos 21:12:22 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: but have some consern 21:12:38 the speaker has other two submissions 21:12:46 let's check them all. 21:12:52 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 21:13:15 * Omega - A Universe Over IP 21:13:26 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: Row8 and Row 25 21:13:28 * 25: Omega - A Universe Over IP 21:13:33 oops 21:13:39 * 25: Fedora Women 21:13:41 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: Row 25 Fedora Women 21:15:15 I'd like to vote for Fedora Women, 21:15:30 since it is one of not many topics about community growing. 21:15:40 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I read through all the info he/she provided. And I vote +1 for Fedora Videos with concerns, Omega-A Universe Over IP for -1 since it is too general and +1 for Fedora Women 21:16:05 zsun: plz share your concern 21:16:24 I intend to give Fedora Videos a 0. 21:16:46 tonghuix: how about you? 21:17:47 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: As is said, he will involve the crowd. first, will he/she speak English or Chinese? 21:17:50 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: +1 to zsun 21:18:27 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: And second, will the crowd easy to follow his action? 21:18:30 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: EOF 21:19:24 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: +1 only because I think it is a good way to introduce the Video project for the general since video is easy for freshman to follow 21:19:41 tonghuix: what's your vote on Fedora Videos? 21:20:09 mine will be: videos 0, Omega -1, Women +1. 21:20:19 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: I prefer +1 to FV 21:20:47 ok, so Fedora Videos get +1 21:20:56 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: Omega is -1 *2 now ,so get -1? 21:21:50 #agreed Nitesh Narayan Lal: Fedora Videos +1, Omega -1, Fedora Women +1 21:21:56 zsun: I think so. 21:22:21 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 21:22:24 Now let's check Ankur Sinha's four proposals. 21:22:41 * Contributing to Fedora QA in 15 minutes Workshop (training) 21:22:50 * A GPG key signing party Workshop (training) 21:22:58 * An update on Fedora.next Standard speech 21:23:10 * Packaging a ROS Groovy SCL for Fedora Hackfest 21:23:43 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: I prefer GPG key and ROS 21:23:51 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: +1 for QA, 0 for GPG Key, 0 for Fedora Next and +1 for Packaging 21:24:30 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: and Alick? 21:25:29 tonghuix: what about the other two, -1 (decline) or 0 (decide later)? 21:26:03 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: fedora QA - 0 , Fedora next - -1 21:26:31 mine: QA -1, GPG +1, Fedora.next +1, packaging +1 21:26:49 let's take the summation. 21:26:57 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so now Packaging agreed 21:27:13 and GPG key 21:27:25 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: QA 0, GPG 2 Fedora.Next 0 21:28:01 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: no more idea from me. Agree with the result 21:28:15 #idea we can encourage him to make the other two lightning talks. 21:28:29 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: Agreed with the idea as well:) 21:28:50 #agreed Ankur Sinha: Packaging ROS hackfest +1, GPG key workshop +1 21:29:18 #agreed Ankur Sinha: Fedora.next 0, QA 0 (might be lightning talks) 21:29:47 so next one: Aditya Patawari 21:29:56 * Building Orchestration and Configuration with Ansible at Fedora Project 21:30:05 * Running Docker on FedoraWorkshop (training) 21:30:51 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: +1 for Ansible and 0 for Docker, since there are several talking about Docker/LXC 21:31:47 yeah quite several about docker/lxc/continous delivery 21:32:18 zsun: mine decision is the same with you 21:32:55 so we can state the result, I think. 21:33:10 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 21:33:25 #agreed Aditya Patawari: Ansible +1, Docker workshop 0. 21:33:40 Next: 李建盛 21:33:46 * Write or Translate Fedora Documents by publican and zanataWorkshop (training) 21:33:54 * oVirt deep diveStandard speech 21:34:09 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: So many L10N as well 21:34:31 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: -1 for both 21:34:58 is oVirt available on Fedora? 21:35:05 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: -1 for his L10N and 0 for oVirt 21:35:13 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: Yes, oVirt is based on Fedora 21:35:30 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: but I still wonder whether the oVirt topic is too general? 21:36:26 as a common guideline, I think we should have at least some general topics, 21:36:45 to make it a bit diverse, and share topic with GNOME 21:37:00 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so I vote 0 since the topic itself seems okay. 21:37:12 mine: publican +1, oVirt 0 21:37:52 #agreed 李建盛 Fedora Documents -1, oVirt 0 21:38:15 * alick thinks publican topic is ok, but anyway. 21:38:44 Next: Patrick Huang 21:38:50 * Zanata - open source translation management system 21:39:00 This is from a Red Hat guy. 21:39:41 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I vote +1 for this L10N topic 21:40:20 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: (I read through all the samaliar topic together, so just decide which is better from my side.) 21:40:41 zsun: can you list them here for reference? 21:40:48 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: s/samaliar/similar 21:40:54 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: wait a minute 21:41:02 The above publican, this one, and ? 21:42:48 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: *11 Patrick Huang Zanata ; *26 Tommy He A life of Translator, *33 Robert Lijun Li *36 Tiansword, *42 Pwu 21:43:02 - zodbot!supybot@fedora/bot/zodbot has joined #fudcon-planning 21:43:02 - mode/#fudcon-planning [+o zodbot] by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 21:43:37 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: In my opinion, these topics are on the same or similar area 21:44:22 I think I prefer #33 to this one. 21:44:30 so mine will be -1. 21:44:37 what about you, tonghuix ? 21:44:39 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I agree with #33 21:45:04 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: e.... 21:45:16 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: hard to decide 21:45:20 it is up to you now... 21:45:21 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I think we can talk about only 11 atm and vote for #11 only 21:45:31 yes 21:45:38 we for now just vote for #11. 21:45:47 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: oh, sorry, I vote 0 for this not +1 21:46:01 ? plz make it clear. 21:46:02 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: typo . I read the wrong line on my paper 21:46:22 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I mean , I vote 0 for #11 21:46:36 ok, tonghuix ? 21:46:49 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I printed all the title and voted last night on paper. And just now I read the wrong line 21:46:51 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: +1 to 36 21:47:10 tonghuix: let's decide on #11 at the moment, 21:47:42 ignore other similar ones. 21:47:45 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: OT, zodbot is back but still not work. I tried in #fedora-zh just now 21:48:05 * alick bot is sick. 21:48:21 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: 0 to 11 21:48:27 ok 21:48:41 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so -1 for #11 now 21:48:49 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: in total 21:48:52 #agreed Patrick Huang: Zanata 0 21:49:10 zsun: it has two 0, and one -1. it is better to be 0 in total. 21:49:18 sun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I understand now 21:49:38 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: then #14? 21:49:51 So next: Neependra Khare 21:50:00 * Linux containers (LXC) and future of software deliverWorkshop (training) 21:50:24 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I vote 0 21:50:59 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: -1 21:51:46 0 for now. 21:51:59 there will be similar topic to follow. 21:52:25 #agreed Neependra Khare: LXC 0 21:52:41 Next: Tommy He 21:52:49 * A Life of Translator 21:53:09 He is a Chinese ambassador, translator. 21:53:22 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: hey, #15? 21:53:32 oh, i copyed the wrong line... 21:53:47 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: Jenkins CI from Praveen Kumar 21:54:00 zsun: you are right. 21:54:17 * alick the big table is not easy to traverse... 21:54:34 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: luckily I printed this on A4 paper 21:55:06 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I prefer 0 for #15 21:55:18 what's your opinion, we have accepted one about ansible. 21:55:31 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: +1 21:56:05 mine is -1. 21:56:13 so overall it get 0. 21:56:24 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 21:56:30 #agreed Praveen Kumar: Jenkins CI 0 21:56:42 Next: Rui-bin Li 21:56:53 * Fedora on Loongson, or MIPS 21:57:04 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I vote +1 21:57:20 +1 from me too 21:58:00 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: tonghuix your turn now 21:58:04 #agreed Rui-bin Li: Fedora on Loongson or MIPS +1 21:58:07 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 21:58:13 tonghuix's does not matter now... 21:58:15 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: +1 21:58:21 tonghuix: ok 21:58:22 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: :-D 21:58:41 Next: Buddhike Kurera 21:58:47 five ones to follow 21:58:59 * GSoC with FedoraStandard speech 21:59:04 * Fedora FreemediaStandard speech 21:59:09 * Python with FedoraWorkshop (training) 21:59:15 * Start a relationship with OSS projectStandard speech 21:59:22 * Python with FedoraWorkshop (training) 21:59:45 actually it should be four. There's one duplicate. 22:00:02 * alick this should be the last one (or more) to be decided tonight. 22:00:15 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: +1 for GSoC, 0 for Freemedia, 0 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS 22:01:19 -1 for GSoC, -1 for Freemedia, -1 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS 22:01:35 I recommend GSoc topic merged into OSS. 22:01:53 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: agree with this advise 22:01:57 tonghuix: you? 22:02:18 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: same as zsun, +1 for GSoC, 0 for Freemedia, 0 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS 22:02:46 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so, OSS is +1 now 22:03:11 so the result is same with yours. 22:03:52 #agreed Buddhike Kurera: +1 for GSoC, 0 for Freemedia, 0 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS 22:04:06 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: I think we should speed up more since we still have over a half to decide 22:04:47 en 22:05:00 what about my merging gsoc into OSS idea? 22:05:24 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: agree with this advise 22:06:15 but we have two +1 now. 22:06:47 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so tonghuix how about you? 22:07:00 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: merge or leave it as-is 22:07:14 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: ok 22:07:17 tonghuix!uid13789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmippapkmenqfdnq: merge 22:07:47 I'll add the info into "note" column 22:07:53 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: then all agreed with merging the two together. 22:07:55 So that's all for today. 22:07:55 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: okay 22:08:16 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: thanks 22:09:11 #info we voted nine +1, eleven 0, and one -1. 22:09:46 zsun!~zsun@61.156.49.19: so we all prefer 0 in voting atm:P 22:10:17 I think the figure is good so far. 22:10:30 we can only accept about half of them. 22:10:44 will end meeting today 22:10:47 #endmeeting