23:19:38 #startmeeting 23:19:38 Meeting started Fri Jun 21 23:19:38 2013 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:19:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 23:19:46 se cerror la reunion? 23:19:46 .fas itamarjp 23:19:46 itamar_: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 23:19:53 * itamar_ Brazil 23:19:55 .fas aeperezt 23:19:55 aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' 23:19:57 .fas alexove 23:19:58 #topic rolcall 23:19:59 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 23:19:59 * aeperezt Panama 23:20:00 * alexove Peru 23:20:18 #chair aeperezt alexove tatica biker 23:20:18 Current chairs: aeperezt alexove biker echevemaster tatica 23:20:31 #chair lvaz 23:20:31 Current chairs: aeperezt alexove biker echevemaster lvaz tatica 23:20:45 * firemanxbr Brazil 23:20:52 .fas echevemaster 23:20:53 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 23:20:58 * echevemaster Venezuela 23:21:40 alguien mas? 23:21:44 someone else 23:21:45 ? 23:22:21 * lvaz Brazil 23:22:32 dougsland, ping 23:22:35 chicos quisiera proponer que la reunion se realize en ingles 23:22:44 ok np for that 23:22:44 aeperezt: +1 23:22:49 +1 from me 23:22:50 para que sea mas facil para los demas leer el log de la reunion 23:22:52 en portuñol 23:23:08 np 23:23:25 great 23:23:34 aeperezt, the chairs are only for embassadors? 23:23:38 echevemaster, here 23:23:38 I'm here reading! 23:23:48 #chair kovalevsky 23:23:48 Current chairs: aeperezt alexove biker echevemaster kovalevsky lvaz tatica 23:23:49 aeperezt, agreed, thanks! 23:23:50 rbergeron, dead or alive in this meeting ? 23:23:52 .fas dougsland 23:23:53 dougsland: dougsland 'Douglas Schilling Landgraf' 23:23:57 to make logs friendly with everyone meeting will be on English 23:24:01 .fas kovalevsky 23:24:02 kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' 23:24:15 .fasinfo sophiekovalevsky 23:24:16 kovalevsky: User: sophiekovalevsky, Name: Kiara Navarro, email: kiarakovalevsky@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-05-22, IRC Nick: kovalevsky, Timezone: America/Panama, Locale: pt_BR, GPG key ID: , Status: active 23:24:19 Ok 23:24:20 kovalevsky: Unapproved Groups: ambassadors 23:24:23 kovalevsky: Approved Groups: fedorabugs packager fedora-pa cla_fpca cla_done 23:24:32 kovalevsky, only fas 23:24:35 not fasinfo 23:24:44 echevemaster, I didn't know, thanks. 23:24:45 .fas firemanxbr 23:24:46 firemanxbr: firemanxbr 'Marcelo Barbosa' 23:25:11 .fas lmvaz 23:25:11 lvaz: lmvaz 'Leonardo Menezes Vaz' - leonardovaz 'Leonardo Vaz' 23:25:33 #topic Budget for Fudcon 23:26:04 alexove, any news about? 23:26:11 please paste the link. 23:26:30 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsN66rqNotoIdFBmWE1tRW1CY0VEY0cxMWxKSGJnT3c&rm=full#gid=0 23:27:15 nationals pay taxes on the property, foreigners do not 23:27:19 alexove, what is this Chullos azules con logos de fedora 23:27:24 alexove: i sent a request for permissions to see that link 23:27:46 alexove, i do the same 23:27:55 alexove, me too 23:27:57 me 3 23:28:28 alexove, please do the permissions 23:28:36 alexove, open it to readonly to everyone 23:29:00 that way you don't have to do permits to all 23:29:12 aeperezt, agreed. 23:29:38 ok we got access (: 23:29:48 aeperezt 23:29:49 #link http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chullo 23:30:21 hey, is cute! 23:30:33 Echevemaster hi!! 23:30:41 io kiero un chullo! 23:30:41 :p 23:30:43 yograterol, hi, please fas 23:30:51 aunke no vaya al fudcon no me mandan uno? :p 23:30:59 and your country 23:31:42 biker I promise to send you one chullo 23:31:56 :-) 23:32:02 kkkk 23:32:02 we have to solve right now? alexove 23:32:17 alexove: thanks! n_n 23:32:39 some sponsor for this things? 23:32:44 alexove, you need to take out from the budget the rooms 23:33:28 we still need to make visits to some sponsors 23:33:29 * itamar_ We are Fedora! 23:33:31 .fas yograterol 23:33:33 yograterol: yograterol 'Yohan Graterol' 23:33:53 alexove, that needs to be move to the subside worksheet 23:34:09 itamar_ : somewhat dead. in an area where internet is total fail atm - dropping every 5m 23:34:31 * yograterol Venezuela 23:34:32 but 23:34:39 trying 23:34:52 the cost depends on the type of hotel room you choose 23:35:03 alexove, what is this Cordon cola de rata(rollo X 50 mts) 23:35:18 If the room is with 3 beds cost per person is lower. 23:35:34 Si la habitacion es con dos camas el costo aumenta un poco más. 23:35:35 alexove, we sill use rooms for 3 people 23:35:45 "Colas de Rata!!" --Brujeria 23:36:10 The hotel already has reservations for that date 23:36:15 alexove: do they have single rooms? 23:36:35 we have 2 rooms with 3 beds 23:36:59 lvaz yes they have simple rooms 23:37:02 Im sorry for enter in the IRC late... I'm not in my home 23:37:14 alexove, I think you need to set to 0 what you have resolve by sponsors so we know how much money we need 23:37:50 we also have 7 rooms with 2 beds 23:38:11 Ok 23:39:04 * lvaz snores too much 23:39:10 :) 23:39:28 lol 23:39:32 :) 23:39:33 ^^^ dougsland firemanxbr 23:40:16 (I am trying to surpass my master mchehab) 23:40:26 alexove, what is this Cordon cola de rata(rollo X 50 mts) ? 23:40:28 lvaz, I think there are at least 3 of us then... lol 23:40:46 lvaz needs a room with firewall. 23:40:52 have pending appointments with some sponsors and may decrease budget 23:41:19 alexove, that is good 23:41:27 aeperezt: http://www.casasuez.cl/images/productos/IMG_2719.jpg 23:41:38 it is "Cola de rata" 23:42:10 Cola de rata is cheaper cord that we cut to hang credentials in the neck 23:42:34 echevemaster exactly :-) 23:42:39 alexove, that a really cola de rata 23:42:47 alexove, cheaper it look expensive 23:42:49 alexove, very near to the real cola de rata 23:42:54 very close* 23:43:20 alexove, is not better a pin? 23:43:23 is a very thin cord 23:43:25 is the price in USD? 23:43:43 biker: is in a PEN 23:44:02 I think that the price of pins is more cheaper alexove 23:44:03 divide each one between 2,72 23:44:32 alexove, I'm wondering about the prices, that numbers are in soles or in USD? 23:44:41 kovalevsky, oanda.com 23:44:44 alexove: thx 23:44:49 Soles 23:44:58 peru coin right? :p 23:45:02 Yes 23:45:28 okok (: 23:45:40 alexove, ok! 23:46:12 I just put the price in dollars on the side 23:46:25 alexove, the folder can be print 23:46:44 Folder publicitario full color, cartulina plastificada 23:46:49 alexove: sweet yeah thats better! 23:47:24 I think that is not necesary the full color or plastified 23:47:28 alexove, 23:47:34 the folder is already bent 23:47:36 Ok 23:48:18 suggesting?, delete or otherwise change 23:48:37 delete, nothing I think 23:48:48 only look possibilities 23:48:50 alternatives 23:49:13 use a simple folder is cheaper 23:49:14 :-/ 23:49:29 alexove, the idea is to make something like this http://www.otltactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=5685 23:49:30 yes, with a logo printed 23:50:16 aeperezt, we can use pins? 23:50:27 echevemaster, we are talking 1000 dls only on that 23:50:55 instead of credentials 23:51:02 as in Venezuela 23:51:26 our credentials were pins 23:51:44 echevemaster: what about just a small paper with a clip? 23:51:56 aeperezt I think the ID Holder is expensive 23:52:02 echevemaster, no like the idea 23:52:04 or maybe each person can do its own credential 23:52:20 alexove, let me quote here and see if we can bring them 23:52:34 I think that will be cheaper 23:53:29 echevemaster, I like the ones we use on Panama and others fudcons as they have more information about the person 23:53:43 Ok, I will to ask the price here to 23:53:53 well aeperezt 23:54:10 alexove, aeperezt also I'll ask for price here 23:54:34 then compare prices 23:54:42 alexove, ok 23:54:47 about the folders aeperezt ? 23:55:01 i think that the credential could be like the fudcon panama and lawrence, both were the same 23:55:21 kovalevsky, i.e? 23:55:24 justn only with few difference 23:55:29 few differences 23:55:39 if we have the booklet folder is not needed 23:55:44 or optional 23:56:03 I think the same 23:56:11 in lawrence we didn't have cords for the credentials 23:56:22 kovalevsky, right 23:56:33 we had something that I don't remember the name... 23:56:41 so those things are optionals 23:56:49 the folder and the cords 23:57:01 i think that the cords are not necessarilly! 23:57:17 kovalevsky, we are on the same page 23:57:30 at least in most events here,., most of the people bring their own chords 23:57:44 because they have like some of mozilla,., other from their jobs,., etc 23:58:18 alexove, the booklet is expensive 23:58:29 in Panama it cost 250 to print it 23:58:59 alexove, can we print less 23:59:08 Ok 23:59:11 how many 23:59:14 you are printing 1000 right 23:59:22 we ping 250 on Panama 23:59:32 alexove, the hook is this: http://identificacionexpress.com/img/credenciales-de-acceso.jpg 00:00:55 removing that, then how much is the budget, alexove Please update the spreadsheet 00:01:01 Please give me a moment 00:01:36 remove what? 00:01:53 folder and cola de rata 00:02:14 and booklet 00:02:26 or put in "0" 00:02:51 pong o/ 00:03:25 tatica, 00:03:50 sorry la tardanza, estaba probandome el vestido de novia :$ 00:04:02 * LoKoMurdoK here 00:04:08 ja tarde 00:04:12 tatica: congrats! 00:04:13 :) 00:04:21 congrats, tatica this time is in english 00:04:22 tatica: uuf cuándo vamos a la boda? :p 00:04:38 .fas lbazan 00:04:39 LoKoMurdoK: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' 00:04:40 LoKoMurdoK, o/ 00:04:44 echevemaster: tan en meeting 00:04:50 yes LoKoMurdoK 00:05:02 echevemaster: ok 00:05:11 .fas tatica 00:05:12 tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' 00:05:13 * LoKoMurdoK acabo de llegar a casa mil disculpas la tardanza 00:05:18 * tatica - Venezuela 00:05:23 got it, just read backlogs 00:05:26 alexove, I don't see budget for fudpub there 00:05:29 why 00:06:15 a municipality will to colaborate with that 00:06:16 :-) 00:06:36 great!! 00:06:48 alexove, great 00:06:54 we have a buffet for 80 people out of town at a cultural festival 00:07:17 sounds good!! 00:07:17 * LoKoMurdoK Panama 00:07:32 echevemaster, souns good to alexove 00:07:37 usually the festival falls on a Saturday but will try to move it for Sunday 00:07:39 :-) 00:08:06 alexove, if we take out the folder and the cola the ratont stuff we are abou 1800 down on budget 00:08:14 aeperezt: +1 00:08:21 aeperezt +1 00:08:29 aeperezt, +1 00:08:42 for that I said that remove it for the list 00:08:59 1800 / 2.27 00:09:03 = 00:09:14 kovalevsky, why sounds good to alexove ? 00:09:21 +1 00:09:40 do not like the idea? 00:09:55 LoKoMurdoK: 792.95154 00:10:10 * alexove no necesitamos mucha cola de rata, seria inhumando :-D 00:10:18 lol 00:10:19 lvaz: :o 1 pasaje 00:10:27 I'm wrong on the amount of cord 00:10:27 a passage 00:10:32 i fix it now 00:10:39 alexove: +1 00:11:30 alexove, unless you find a sponsor for that 00:11:37 better set them as optional 00:11:43 alexove, tripticos and volantes are not the same? 00:11:50 no 00:12:19 by example "volantes" are flyers 00:13:24 volante 00:13:25 echevemaster, i miss understood the question, never mind. 00:13:27 #link http://img.webme.com/pic/a/armandorefrigeracion/nvolante.jpg 00:13:28 the volantes is not necessary in the fudcon.... the fudcon marketing = twitter, facebook, webs, blogs, others? 00:13:48 triptico #http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OfUiEefuUk0/TCm23miXxsI/AAAAAAAAAAg/jAB0OFhfihM/s1600/TRIPTICO+INTERIOR_enviar%5B1%5D.jpg 00:14:15 alexove, the "triptico" are flyers 00:14:19 we send some material to universities in other cities 00:14:24 they are not neccesary in the fudcons 00:15:01 then, use flyers. 00:15:01 echevemaster, I think they need to choose one 00:15:10 or reduce the fliers 00:15:16 only "tripticos" 00:15:19 aeperezt, right 00:15:32 alexove, on panama we did flyers 00:15:34 i think that there no necessary for the fudcon 00:15:54 aeperezt: +1 00:16:21 but we did the size of half of the 8x11 so 1000 was 2000 and the same message 00:17:00 the leaflets are small and simple (also cheap) 00:17:07 the brochures have more information 00:17:28 usually delivered flyers on the street 00:18:07 alexove, right so you can use half size as many people will lose them 00:18:13 the brochures are delivered as an invitation to the authorities and students of universities 00:18:23 we can reach them the event info by email alexove 00:18:23 I think than is bets do ads in web, bit flyers and most ads online 00:18:37 correct I think the same 00:18:39 Best 00:18:54 yograterol, +1 00:18:58 yograterol: +1 00:19:06 yograterol: +1 00:19:18 at least a limited amount of brochures is necessary, sometimes considered a formality 00:19:19 btw yograterol is a new ambassador folks 00:19:20 +1 00:19:55 alexove, right then reduce the amount 00:19:59 a mandatory formality? alexove 00:20:02 I might have some flyers that could be used too; is someone from Venezuela goes would be happy to give those away 00:20:15 +1 tatica 00:20:39 http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora_Artwork/Random-Stuff/fedora-flyer.png 00:20:40 http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora_Artwork/Random-Stuff/flyer-f14-1.png 00:20:42 yes echevemaster 00:20:52 we still have some from previous FUDcon 00:20:55 many authorities love the paper 00:20:57 enough for a small supply 00:21:54 I quote Linux Torvals the paper is to clean the as.##%%%....... 00:22:14 XD 00:22:16 good, alexove the brochure can be printed? 00:22:28 tatica: nosotros somos relaciones públicos? (embajadores) 00:22:51 biker, ambassadors, marketing, aye 00:22:56 alexove, please accept the offering of tatica 00:23:00 Yes we can print them using a university 00:23:05 we found out that was easier for people to learn about the roles that way 00:23:15 so people doesn't ask us to be ambassadors if they haven't join another team before 00:23:24 tatica: danke (: 00:23:25 she have flyers of the latest fudcon alexove 00:23:27 Ok :-D 00:23:31 Podemos ayudar con post y redes sociales, como hago yo por ejemplo tengo un banner dedicado a fedora 18 00:23:55 thanx Tatica 00:24:06 tatica: those are really cool flyers (: 00:24:25 :) 00:24:31 * LoKoMurdoK no veo muchos post incluyendome de nada sobre Fudcon (contados) 00:24:44 Tatica: I accept your offer, but how you sent me 00:25:10 the flyers 00:25:10 alexove, if someone from my country go or we could try to find a way to ship them 00:25:14 do you need them in advance? 00:25:33 Yes please 00:25:33 tatica, yes cose they will use them to promote the event 00:25:43 hmm 00:25:45 I don't think so 00:25:49 that is why I think reducing the amount will be ok 00:25:50 they have no date, nor the name of the event 00:25:59 the easier way to promote the event is with posters, not flyers 00:26:01 we can bring more stuff when we get there 00:26:02 bigger, easier 00:26:15 Lokomurdok no es escribir sobre el Fudcon necesariamente sino colocar banners y cosas así hacer mención mas no spammear con lo del fudcon xD 00:26:16 but the stuff that is needed for before we cannot do anything else 00:26:26 yograterol: a eso me refiero 00:26:29 .-) 00:26:40 LoKoMurdoK, english please 00:26:54 yes 00:27:01 I would recommend posters 00:27:41 the posters already in the budget 00:27:43 ok 00:27:58 you could probably also print a couple of large banners 00:27:58 aeperezt: ok 00:28:05 and put them at some streets 00:28:08 and rotate them every week 00:28:16 it's a cheap way to have a huge add 00:28:25 there are some details to be worked but think we can be low the 5k on the budget 00:28:56 tatica, yes poster can be use on the universities and send to other cities 00:29:03 yup 00:29:10 +1 tatica (for the posters) 00:30:20 ok, we can move to the funding, aeperezt ? 00:30:32 yes please 00:30:38 based on this we can say that there 10K for sponorships and we can do a round now or on the next meeting 00:30:38 i need some names to the hotel 00:31:03 now 00:31:04 alexove, what dou you say? 00:31:06 ok 00:31:15 #topic funding requests 00:31:17 LoKoMurdoK: the first name 00:31:17 :-) 00:31:28 * echevemaster kick to LoKoMurdoK 00:31:32 lol 00:31:35 xD 00:31:40 we should see that on ticket bases 00:31:46 alexove, the link please 00:32:04 the first ticket is eceh 00:32:04 echevemaster: 00:32:14 ticket #424 00:32:21 that is decided for alexove LoKoMurdoK 00:32:24 there are in the same document 00:32:28 in the next tab 00:32:54 echevemaster: mmm 424 is the first number in the list :-) 00:32:58 no? 00:33:02 or the locals 00:33:05 is firts 00:33:09 locals 00:33:13 the locals 00:33:15 LoKoMurdoK, 00:33:17 tatica: venezuela vote firts locals 00:33:20 I would go with hackataca first since he's the only local there 00:33:25 tatica: +1 00:33:30 then with the outsiders 00:33:32 please advise me where to start 00:33:35 tatica: yes 00:33:39 alexove, you decide dear 00:33:49 we just drop some recommendations :) 00:33:56 tatica: +1 00:34:00 lol 00:34:31 alexove, we are awaiting for you 00:34:41 i would say go with locals first, but I don't see any list, just hackataka 00:34:54 we talk last week that there should be a list of locals, and yet, it's not there 00:35:01 tatica: +1 00:35:07 so I'm not sure if the work was done or if someone forgot it 00:35:22 tatica: 3 tickets in after dead line 00:35:49 I only added one, those should be at the spreedsheet too 00:35:54 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsZ5sIiieYEvdGVndXY3Z1ZKckdPVnNDQm96MV9heEE#gid=0 00:36:17 or you guys didn't used the doc? 00:36:25 tatica, alexove did a copy 00:36:36 I updated in the same spreed of the budget 00:36:44