09:34:23 <siddhesh> #startmeeting FUDCon Pune subsidy meeting: 20150508 09:34:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri May 8 09:34:23 2015 UTC. The chair is siddhesh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 09:34:23 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 09:34:37 <siddhesh> #topic Roll Call 09:34:47 <pravins> .hellomynameis pravins 09:34:47 <pjp> .hellomynameis pjp 09:34:48 <siddhesh> .hellomynameis siddhesh 09:34:48 <zodbot> pravins: pravins 'Pravin Satpute' <psatpute@redhat.com> 09:34:51 <zodbot> pjp: pjp 'None' <pj.pandit@yahoo.co.in> 09:34:54 <zodbot> siddhesh: siddhesh 'Siddhesh Poyarekar' <spoyarek@redhat.com> 09:35:38 <amit> .hellomynameis amitshah 09:35:39 <zodbot> amit: amitshah 'Amit Shah' <amit.shah@redhat.com> 09:36:47 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal 09:36:48 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com> 09:37:27 <paragan> .hellomynameis pnemade 09:37:28 <zodbot> paragan: pnemade 'Parag Nemade' <pnemade@redhat.com> 09:37:39 <siddhesh> ok, so we have a fair number of people today 09:37:48 <siddhesh> #topic tickets 09:38:06 <siddhesh> before we start on the pending tickets, I wanted to bring up a ticket we have already approved 09:38:13 <siddhesh> somvannda's 09:38:34 <siddhesh> we had approved $550 since the BOM->PNH fares were around that level then 09:38:44 <siddhesh> they have since jumped to about $700-750 09:39:24 <pravins> ohh 09:39:33 <paragan> ah 09:39:38 <siddhesh> so the question is, do we approve this new fare? 09:39:54 <siddhesh> he cannot afford to buy the ticket himself, so a partial subsidy seems out of question 09:40:02 <pjp> Couldn't he do with 550, that is approved? 09:40:22 <kushal> siddhesh, I am okay with new fare. 09:40:59 <siddhesh> pjp: no, like I said, he cannot afford to buy his ticket at all, so I think partial is out of question 09:41:01 <pjp> IMO, we should see our budget 09:41:09 <siddhesh> we have $2600 spare 09:41:24 <siddhesh> and we need to let him know by tomorrow so that izhar can book for him 09:41:33 <pjp> I see, 09:42:21 <pravins> i think we should approve, its somehow delay from ourside as well for booking ticket. 09:42:22 * pjp checking pending requsts 09:42:23 <paragan> I think we can give him additional budget as I see we have some budget 09:42:46 <siddhesh> pravins: no, delay is from his end for raising a ticket too - I've been asking him to do that since march 09:42:55 <paragan> oh 09:43:36 <amit> pravins: well the ticket came late; why do you say we delayed? 09:44:06 <pravins> i thought, since we have to do booking for him. I remember some conversation earlier for booking Yogi ticket. 09:44:42 <siddhesh> prmia yogi's booking delay is our fault, yes 09:44:49 <siddhesh> but that is beside the point 09:45:29 <siddhesh> the question now is: what do we think about approving new fare for somvannda, say, at about $800, given that the current fare is around $780 09:46:13 <pjp> I think we should consider other tickets first, and if possible we'll provide extra budget to Somvannda 09:46:17 <paragan> Maybe let's revisit his ticket once we go through all the tickets today and decide 09:46:40 <pravins> its almost 50% more than earlier approved budget. 09:46:45 <pjp> There are about 15 tickets pending, of which most seem not qualified 09:47:00 <pjp> paragan: +1 09:47:02 <amit> quick look at pending tickets shows we aren't really constrained for budget 09:47:13 <pjp> amit: True, 09:47:14 <pravins> can someone provide link for tickets queue? 09:47:20 <amit> except ausil, of course. 09:47:30 <pjp> pravins: -> https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/query?status=!closed&component=FUDCon+Pune+2015 09:47:36 <pravins> thanks pjp :) 09:47:49 <pjp> amit: Yes, which is major chunk of our remaining budget 09:48:17 <siddhesh> pravins: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/report/3 09:48:18 * pjp suggests, let's get the unqualified out of our way first, 09:48:28 <amit> another option is to go by Ruth's advice 09:48:35 <amit> wait 3-5 weeks before travel for best rates 09:48:43 <amit> also, acc. to her, best rates are obtained on Wednesdays 09:48:51 <amit> so we could check the rates in a few days' time 09:48:56 <amit> (and keep this ticket on hold for now) 09:49:00 <pjp> amit: that might delay visa process, 09:49:03 <siddhesh> fine by me 09:49:07 <amit> visa is 2 weeks 09:49:11 <pravins> pjp: agree, it will make think bit easy. 09:49:41 <siddhesh> ok lets look at other tickets 09:49:41 <paragan> yes go through other tickets first 09:49:41 <pjp> amit: no, we have to provide invitation letters to them, which will need some time 09:49:46 <amit> let's look at other things then. 09:50:24 <pjp> Yes 09:50:39 * siddhesh looks at the next ticket in queue 09:51:09 <siddhesh> #topic 09:51:14 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/553 09:51:19 <pravins> for Jens petersen we have not decided travel. we have to discuss his ticket as well today. 09:51:26 <siddhesh> Marie nordin 09:51:48 <paragan> .fasinfo riecatnor 09:51:48 <zodbot> paragan: User: riecatnor, Name: None, email: riecatnor@gmail.com, Creation: 2013-10-18, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 09:51:51 <zodbot> paragan: Approved Groups: +designteam gitbadges cla_fpca cla_done 09:51:53 <siddhesh> pravins: yes, lets tkae it up after this one 09:52:02 <pravins> siddhesh: sure. 09:52:13 <siddhesh> active contributor and had a badges workshop submission too 09:52:19 <amit> #info Marie Nordin 09:52:29 <pravins> its $1,684 09:52:41 <siddhesh> we declined because alick proposed a badges talk and the subsidy amoutn requested is massive 09:52:46 <amit> we already have alick (from apac) coming to talk about badges 09:52:57 <amit> and several others from design team from asia and eu 09:53:04 <amit> and it's a lot of strain on our budget. 09:53:08 <amit> -1 from me 09:53:11 <pravins> lets vote 09:53:36 <pravins> -1 due to limited budget remaining 09:53:42 <siddhesh> I would +1 for accommodation if she wants to look at other options for travel subsidy 09:53:48 <kushal> siddhesh, +1 09:53:51 <siddhesh> but definitely -1 for travel 09:53:59 <paragan> so let's decline this request -1 09:54:28 <pjp> -1 for travel, as the request is large, our budget constraints and duplication of talks, 09:55:15 <amit> agree - we do have budget for accomodation 09:55:58 <pravins> +1 for accomodation from me as well. 09:56:09 <siddhesh> #agreed declined for travel, but can provide accommodation for the duration of the conference 09:56:20 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/602 09:56:24 <siddhesh> #info Jens Petersen 09:56:43 <paragan> .fasinfo petersen 09:56:45 <zodbot> paragan: User: petersen, Name: Jens Petersen, email: petersen@redhat.com, Creation: 2005-04-13, IRC Nick: juhp, Timezone: Asia/Tokyo, Locale: en, GPG key ID: EF27EDD1, Status: active 09:56:48 <zodbot> paragan: Approved Groups: qa @gitliberation-fonts cvsredhat-config-language cla_done fedorabugs cvsfedora +packager sysadmin @cvslohit-fonts cvsadmin sysadmin-cvs cla_redhat cla_fedora @giti18n gitspin-kickstarts sysadmin-build @gitcabal2spec provenpackager sysadmin-web @githaskell-sig proventesters @gityum-langpacks gitreleng releng sysadmin-releng 09:57:07 <siddhesh> revisiting this because Jens asked for a travel subsidy as well 09:57:22 <siddhesh> the request is $700 09:57:25 <pravins> it comes around $600 from Osaka to Mumbai 09:57:35 <pravins> only Airfare &600 09:57:55 <pjp> He is okay with partial subsidy too 09:58:21 <kushal> I am +1 for Jens. 09:58:46 <pjp> Maybe we could go with 400 - 500 or so, his request came late right? 09:59:22 <pjp> Or was that Jiri Eischmann ? 09:59:40 <pjp> No, Jiri is travelling by himself 09:59:47 <pravins> pjp: no, its Jens only. 09:59:52 <pjp> Right 10:01:18 <amit> pjp: yea, 1 day late 10:01:21 <siddhesh> lets look at the rest of the tickets - most of them are from dell folks and the rest don't amount to much 10:01:38 <pjp> Yep, 10:01:46 <siddhesh> so we could probably afford the $600 10:01:52 <paragan> okay 10:02:13 <pravins> yes, even he says "cover at least part of the airfare that would be very helpful indeed." 10:02:27 <pjp> Yes 10:02:34 <pravins> he is tremendous contributor to Fedora. 10:03:04 <pjp> True 10:03:19 <pravins> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/petersen/ 10:03:45 <amit> vote? 10:03:51 <siddhesh> ok, +1 from me for a full subsidy 10:03:52 <kushal> amit, +1000000000000 10:03:55 <siddhesh> he is an apac contributor 10:04:10 <kushal> +1 from me for full subsidy 10:04:40 <pjp> +1 for partial subsidy, because he is okay with partial subsidy and his request came late 10:05:28 <amit> pjp: how much for partial? 10:05:35 <siddhesh> ok, then to decide partial we need to run through the rest of the tickets and decide based on what is left 10:05:42 <kushal> 699 :) 10:05:48 <pravins> +1 for $600 airfare subsidy. 10:06:26 <pjp> amit: considering ticket is about $600, ~$400 seems reasonable 10:06:44 <siddhesh> ok, +1 for $400 10:06:48 <amit> pjp: agreed. also from RH, so he should try that too. 10:06:52 <amit> +1 for $400 10:06:54 <pravins> amit: yes 10:07:08 <siddhesh> we can assure him of $400 and then allocate more if we have some remaining 10:07:10 <paragan> +1 for whichever amount we want to approve 10:07:42 <siddhesh> #agreed approved for $400. May approve more if there is budget 10:07:44 <pravins> +1 $400 seems reasonable and as amit suggested he can ask some from RH. 10:07:51 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/557 10:07:55 <siddhesh> #info Arpitra Roy 10:08:05 <siddhesh> student from WB 10:08:11 <kushal> I have asked her to submit this request. 10:08:14 <amit> student, no contributions yet 10:08:17 <siddhesh> .fasinfo arpita 10:08:18 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: arpita, Name: Arpita Roy, email: arpita.rockx6@gmail.com, Creation: 2015-03-17, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 10:08:21 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca 10:08:30 <amit> has a talk proposal (which isn't in the main track) 10:08:47 <siddhesh> i.e. declined, but she can always propose it in the barcamp 10:09:06 <kushal> There are not many students who are looking promising, she is a very much newbie (only few months with linux), first year student. 10:09:09 <amit> we have asked other students to come on their own, but provide accomodation to them. 10:09:17 <siddhesh> I am inclined to decline the travel request, but will reserve my opinion on accommodation based on kushal's feedback 10:09:37 <amit> +1 for accomodation, -1 for travel 10:09:55 <kushal> amit, I don't know not many students actually working on fedora :) 10:09:58 <pravins> siddhesh: yes, it will motivate them to fly with there own budget. 10:10:12 <kushal> pravins, Students mostly can not. 10:10:19 * Amita joining late 10:10:58 <pravins> i think her talk is also not selected. 10:11:10 <siddhesh> pravins, right, it is not 10:11:13 <kushal> pravins, yes 10:11:21 <pjp> I think accommodation at this stage seems reasonable, as she is a new contributor 10:11:40 <siddhesh> I will not describe her as a contributor 10:11:44 <amit> and there's an option of using the train travel 10:11:45 <Amita> pjp, which ticket we are on? 10:11:45 <kushal> siddhesh, +1 10:11:48 <siddhesh> at best, a user and an aspiring contributor 10:11:55 <pjp> Amita: -> https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/557 10:11:57 <kushal> siddhesh, +1 10:13:17 <siddhesh> lets look at travel first 10:13:21 <siddhesh> -1 form me for travel 10:13:36 <Amita> -1 10:13:45 <paragan> I too think to -1 for travel as no talk selected but if needed +1 for accommodation 10:14:09 <pravins> -1 for travel. We can support for accommodation 10:14:18 <siddhesh> for accommodation I think we should talk to MITCOE to see if they have space in their hostels 10:14:42 <siddhesh> I got requests from a number of students from other colleges too, so maybe all of them can stick together 10:14:46 <pjp> -1 for travel, as she is new and not much Fedora contribution 10:15:16 <kushal> pjp, not not much, none. 10:15:18 <kushal> :) 10:15:21 <pjp> :) 10:15:23 <pravins> siddhesh: yeah, we can get some students from Mumbai as well. 10:15:28 <pjp> kushal: I was being polite ;) 10:15:59 <kushal> pjp, :) 10:16:31 <siddhesh> #agreed declined for travel, but look at accommodation options for students at MITCOE 10:16:43 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/562 10:16:49 <siddhesh> #info Ashutosh Bhakare 10:16:57 <siddhesh> has done one release party 10:17:04 <siddhesh> .fasinfo ashutosh bhakare 10:17:05 <zodbot> siddhesh: User "ashutosh bhakare" doesn't exist 10:17:07 <siddhesh> .fasinfo ashutoshbhakare 10:17:08 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: ashutoshbhakare, Name: Ashutosh Sudhakar Bhakare, email: bhakareashutosh@yahoo.com, Creation: 2015-02-09, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 10:17:11 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca 10:18:04 <siddhesh> request is for accommodation only 10:18:12 <pjp> He is asking for 50 USD, I think we can go with it 10:19:12 <Amita> yes 10:19:30 <Amita> and he is also helping in spreading the news 10:19:34 <Amita> seems active 10:19:44 <pjp> Not sure if 50 is reasonable for accommodation of 3-4 days though, maybe 100 is good. 10:19:48 <siddhesh> Amita: he has done one release party 10:20:00 <Amita> yes 10:20:02 <pjp> Yes, and planning for more 10:20:02 <kushal> Amita, how? 10:20:11 <Amita> kushal, what how? 10:20:19 <pravins> He is new in Fedora but yes active from last couple of month. 10:20:20 <kushal> Amita, helping in spreading the news. 10:20:35 <Amita> kushal, local news paper 10:20:35 <kushal> Amita, and why that is important? 10:20:48 <amit> he's active for fudcon, not for the fedora project 10:20:55 <amit> from my reading of the lists 10:20:56 <kushal> amit, +1 10:21:02 <paragan> I am confused about this request. He is asking 50 USD for travel? 10:21:11 <amit> paragan: acco 10:21:16 <siddhesh> paragan: accommodation 10:21:16 <paragan> okay 10:21:20 <kushal> paragan, hotel 10:21:38 <kushal> Amita, why is it important? 10:21:40 <amit> paragan: well everything - he's asked for $50, which will cover everything. 10:21:48 <paragan> sure 10:21:48 <Amita> kushal, for marketing 10:22:41 <kushal> Amita, the person who is not part of Fedora marketing team, just putting up news on local papers may not be a good marketing for the project. 10:22:54 <siddhesh> stay at cocoon in twin sharing will cost about $150 10:23:05 <kushal> siddhesh, he must have some other hotel. 10:23:10 <amit> yea, he needs to work with marketing team to send out proper news items 10:23:26 <amit> yea - I am inclined to approve $50 and he manges his stay 10:23:40 <pravins> i saw he has also added his name for number of documentations AT https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats 10:23:41 <kushal> amit, +1 10:23:46 <pjp> kushal: True, maybe at FDUCon he'll find more ways to contribute, 10:23:53 <kushal> pjp, Yes. 10:23:58 <amit> pravins: doesn't mean he's contributed yet 10:24:03 <amit> though I think we should not debate that 10:24:07 <kushal> amit, yup 10:24:09 <Amita> yeah 10:24:12 <paragan> +1 for his accommodation request 10:24:13 <amit> vote? 10:24:18 <kushal> Just approve +1 for $50 10:24:19 <pravins> amit: yes. 10:24:19 <Amita> for $50 .. +1 10:24:28 <amit> +1 for $50 10:24:40 <amit> we can suggest he stay close to MIT 10:24:44 <siddhesh> +1 for amit's suggestion of $50, where he manages his accommodation 10:24:52 <amit> if he stays close to cocoon, he can use the bus for ferrying around 10:24:53 <pravins> +1 $50 but if we have remaining slot in Cocoon we can ask to use that. 10:24:56 <siddhesh> also, this is obviously against a receipt, which goes without saying 10:25:16 <pjp> +1 for $50, because he is okay with it 10:25:19 <siddhesh> pravins: that will cost much more than $50 and I am not convinced enough to spend that 10:25:58 <siddhesh> #agreed approved $50 against receipts for accommodation 10:26:18 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/577 10:26:22 <siddhesh> #info Kashish Bhatia 10:27:08 <siddhesh> .fasinfo kbhatia 10:27:09 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: kbhatia, Name: Kashish Bhatia, email: kashish.bhatia1989@gmail.com, Creation: 2015-02-26, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 10:27:12 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: None 10:27:25 <Amita> her talk is accepted ? 10:27:33 <siddhesh> not a fedora contributor, has a talk wait-listed 10:27:55 <Amita> 160 USD for hotel 0_0 10:28:03 <Amita> too much it is 10:29:10 <amit> "Linux-IO : Native scsi target implementation in linux kernel" talk - waitlisted 10:29:29 <pjp> Any chance her talk is selected? 10:29:30 <amit> works for vmware 10:30:26 <siddhesh> it depends on how many cancel 10:30:52 <Amita> She works in Pune 10:30:52 <pjp> Heh...:) 10:31:02 <Amita> then why she needs accommodation 10:31:15 <pravins> Amita: in that case stay not required. 10:31:21 <pravins> even Travel. 10:31:25 <Amita> yes 10:31:28 <siddhesh> Amita: two questions: how do you know it's a she and (2) how do you know (s)he is from pune? 10:31:36 <amit> 4 days ago she/he updated ticket asking for update on request 10:31:39 <Amita> siddhesh, https://in.linkedin.com/in/kashishbhatia 10:32:04 <pravins> its Mumbai. 10:32:09 <siddhesh> Amita: wrong profile. (s)he is from vmware 10:32:22 <kushal> :) 10:33:02 <pravins> No Fedora Contributor + Talk not selected. 10:33:19 <amit> it's likely though that talk might get in the main track 10:33:43 <Amita> hmm 10:33:59 <amit> also, since we don't know the gender, we don't know how to budget for the room (ie sharing) 10:34:09 <Amita> :P 10:34:11 <kushal> This might be him 10:34:12 <kushal> http://www.meetup.com/Bangalore-Storage-and-Data-Management-Group/members/129800072/ 10:34:21 <paragan> good to ask for more information in ticket 10:34:49 <amit> kushal: hm, that fellow's linkedin profile mentioned calsoft (ie person with same photo) 10:34:56 <amit> we should end this guessing game now, though :) 10:34:59 <Amita> :D :D :D 10:35:06 <pravins> :) 10:35:23 <siddhesh> anyway, we're going off-track. the question is there a reason to accpt or decline this request 10:35:47 <siddhesh> +1 for accommodation since his/her talk will most likely make it to the main track 10:35:52 <amit> +1 for accomodation - potential speaker 10:36:28 <pjp> Since he or she is not a contributor and talk is not selected yet, I'm inclined to go with -1 10:36:38 <paragan> yes I too -1 10:36:41 <pjp> but accommodation is okay too, 10:36:42 <Amita> yes, -1 10:36:53 <pravins> +1 talk submitted and even if not get selected has potential in BarCamp 10:37:21 <kushal> pravins, there is a reason many talks were not selected. 10:38:08 <siddhesh> ok, so question for amita and paragan: -1 for travel and stay both or just for travel? 10:38:17 <paragan> If talk is not going to select why we want to +1 for accommodation? 10:38:22 <siddhesh> pravins: likewise, +1 for both travel and stay? 10:38:22 <kushal> siddhesh, -1 for both. 10:38:32 <paragan> so -1 for now for both 10:38:36 <siddhesh> kushal: thanks for answering before I ask ;) 10:38:39 <pravins> +1 stay. 10:38:40 <Amita> -1 for both 10:38:58 <amit> 3 +1s 10:39:14 <paragan> 4 -1s 10:39:16 <pjp> siddhesh: :) 10:39:20 <amit> pjp: is your +1 for stay? 10:40:08 <pjp> amit: Yes if the talk is selected, considering potential speaker 10:40:14 <amit> pjp: decide now 10:40:18 <amit> pjp: on current status 10:40:22 <Amita> :) 10:40:26 <siddhesh> so it's definitely -1 on travel 10:40:29 <siddhesh> lets communicate that 10:40:34 <pjp> amit: nope, current status -1 10:40:41 <pjp> <pjp> Since he or she is not a contributor and talk is not selected yet, I'm inclined to go with -1 10:40:45 <amit> pjp: for stay, right? 10:40:51 <pjp> amit: Yes, both 10:40:52 <siddhesh> we can consider stay at any point later 10:41:07 <siddhesh> ok, 4 against 3 -1 for stay as well 10:41:14 <siddhesh> so -1 for both 10:41:32 <siddhesh> #agreed declined travel and accommodation 10:41:54 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/579 10:42:02 <siddhesh> #info LAKSHMINARAYANAN 10:42:10 <siddhesh> .fasinfo lakshminarayanan 10:42:11 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: lakshminarayanan, Name: lakshminarayanan, email: lakshdu@gmail.com, Creation: 2015-04-19, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 10:42:14 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca 10:43:00 <Amita> talk is selected so +! 10:43:01 <Amita> +1 10:43:50 <pjp> He is not a contributor, and account seems to be created for the funding requests purposes 10:44:06 <amit> +1 for stay - he is a speaker 10:44:14 <siddhesh> pjp: yes, I'd go with +1 for stay since he is a speaker, but -1 for travel 10:44:34 <siddhesh> we're very close to providing funding for dennis gilmore ourselves, so I want to go for that 10:44:43 <Amita> cool 10:44:56 <Amita> siddhesh, +1 10:44:59 <pjp> siddhesh: same here, 10:45:16 <pjp> He does not need accommodation too it seems, he might return the same day 10:45:32 <pjp> But still, I think accommodation is okay 10:45:40 <pjp> +1 for accommodation, -1 for travel 10:46:02 <kushal> siddhesh, +1 10:46:22 <paragan> yes we can give stay as he is a speaker -1 for travel 10:46:40 <siddhesh> comment 4 says he does not need stay, so I guess that means -1 10:46:46 <siddhesh> despite the fact that he is a speaker 10:46:54 <amit> comment 4 says he doesn't want twin sharing 10:47:04 <amit> so -1 then 10:47:07 <siddhesh> we can of course consider a partial subsidy 10:47:34 <siddhesh> votes and opinions? 10:47:45 <amit> so our accomodation and travel budgets are different 10:47:54 <amit> and we have budget to cover hotel rooms.. 10:47:59 <amit> obviously we can blur the boudnary 10:48:12 <amit> but we haven't looked at other tickets with that view. 10:48:13 <pjp> I don't think personal accommodation is reasonable, twin sharing one is okay 10:48:19 <Amita> so we should tell him that we have twin option only 10:48:30 <amit> Amita: and he has said he doesn't want that option 10:49:09 <Amita> -1 10:49:24 <amit> also he's from Dell, we haven't asked them to look at company-sponsorship yet 10:50:01 <paragan> I think most of we are -1 for travel 10:50:34 <amit> final vote? 10:50:36 <amit> -1 10:50:43 <siddhesh> -1 10:50:50 <Amita> -1 10:50:52 <paragan> -1 10:50:53 <kushal> -1 10:50:56 <pravins> -1 10:51:04 <pjp> -1 10:51:06 <siddhesh> #agreed decline 10:51:57 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/581 10:52:03 <siddhesh> #info Sujith Pandel 10:52:10 <siddhesh> .fasinfo sujithpandel 10:52:11 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: sujithpandel, Name: Sujith Pandel, email: sujith_pandel@dell.com, Creation: 2015-04-21, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 10:52:14 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: None 10:52:25 <siddhesh> wait listed talk, not a fedora contributor 10:52:27 <siddhesh> -1 10:53:00 <paragan> -1 10:53:15 <amit> hasn't asked for accomodation, I would have +1'ed that 10:53:19 <amit> -1 10:53:46 <kushal> -1 10:53:54 <pjp> -1 10:54:35 <pravins> -1 not a Fedora contributor and talk on wait list. 10:54:53 <siddhesh> #agreed decline 10:54:59 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/582 10:55:06 <siddhesh> #info parmeshwr 10:55:15 <siddhesh> .fasinfo parmeshwr 10:55:16 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: parmeshwr, Name: parmeshwr prasad, email: parmeshwr_prasad@dell.com, Creation: 2015-04-20, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 10:55:19 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca 10:55:56 <paragan> talk selected? 10:56:52 <siddhesh> waitlisted I think 10:56:57 <amit> confirmed, waitlist 10:57:03 <amit> but there's a good chance it'll move up 10:57:11 <amit> he hasn't indicated if he's OK with twin sharing 10:57:15 <amit> I'll +1 his stay 10:57:33 <siddhesh> +1 for stay, -1 for travel 10:58:06 <siddhesh> he came to pune a few months ago to give a talk at the centos dojo 10:58:09 <siddhesh> on his own cost 10:58:20 <siddhesh> so he does seem to be driven 10:58:21 <pjp> +1 if talk is selected, otherwise -1 because FAS account seems to be created for funding requests, not a contributor and/or speaker 10:58:43 <paragan> +1 for what pjp said 10:58:56 <pravins> defer till we get final talk list? 10:58:57 <siddhesh> pjp: we can't wait for that - the talk selection may happen a day before 10:59:06 <kushal> siddhesh, :) 10:59:15 <siddhesh> pravins: the final talk list will be out on the final day :) 10:59:15 <kushal> siddhesh, +1 for stay 10:59:32 <siddhesh> expect cancellations and rescheduling right up to the day of the conference 10:59:35 <pjp> WEll, in that case let's revisit after all due ones are processed 11:00:00 <pjp> If we have funds left, we'll help these cases 11:00:06 <amit> pjp: only accomodation? 11:00:20 <siddhesh> pjp: accommodation doesn't need these funds 11:00:22 <amit> pjp: not sure how many more times we should defer and keep meeting for these meetings 11:00:28 <pjp> amit: twin sharing is okay, 11:00:32 <pravins> amit: agree. 11:00:36 <kushal> amit, say another 21 times? 11:00:47 <amit> kushal: half the sanity? 11:00:51 <pjp> amit: we've already processed these before, 11:00:54 <siddhesh> ok, I think we agree on accommodation 11:00:55 <pravins> +1 for stay. 11:01:14 <siddhesh> anybody disagree for accommodation? 11:01:15 <pjp> amit: maybe we could jump to the ones which more qualified requests and then come to these 11:02:03 <siddhesh> pjp: we have room for accommodation, so there's no point deferring based on budget constraints 11:02:26 <pjp> siddhesh: Ah okay, 11:02:27 <siddhesh> if there is disagreement on whether he should get funding at all based on other factors, then it makes sense to defer and discuss 11:02:53 <siddhesh> ok, so I'll ask again: anybody disagrees for accommodation? 11:03:14 <paragan> no let's give him stay 11:03:17 <pjp> siddhesh: This room for accommodation is same as Speaker's or there is other arrangement? 11:03:35 <pjp> IIUC, for speakers we've capacity of hardly 40 or so, no? 11:03:37 <siddhesh> pjp: same as for speakers 11:03:48 <amit> pjp: how many have we allocated so far? 11:03:49 <siddhesh> pjp: yes, and we have hardly 35 requests or so 11:04:27 <siddhesh> pjp: and he is a potential speaker 11:04:34 <pjp> amit: right close to 35 or 38 are allocated, but yes 40 rooms x 2 is 80 people I think 11:04:48 <siddhesh> pjp: 20x2 = 40 11:04:53 <siddhesh> we have 20 rooms 11:04:55 <pjp> siddhesh: Oh 11:05:50 <siddhesh> ok, I think we agree on accommodation 11:06:07 <siddhesh> #agree decline travel and approve stay 11:06:18 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/583 11:06:26 <siddhesh> #info BALAJI SINGH 11:06:34 <siddhesh> .fasinfo balaji1234 11:06:35 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: balaji1234, Name: balaji singh, email: b.balajisingh@gmail.com, Creation: 2015-04-21, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 11:06:38 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: None 11:07:04 <kushal> none? 11:07:06 <siddhesh> $400 for travel 11:07:13 <siddhesh> not a fedora contributor 11:07:39 <kushal> never even signed fpca 11:07:40 <siddhesh> he has not asked for stay 11:07:42 <Amita> talk submission? 11:07:44 <siddhesh> -1 11:07:49 <kushal> -1 11:07:55 <siddhesh> docker track talk 11:08:04 <amit> I would have +1 for acco, but he's not asked for it 11:08:05 <amit> -1 11:08:06 <pravins> $400 looks including stay+travel. 11:08:13 <Amita> -1 11:08:19 <paragan> -1 11:08:20 <siddhesh> pravins: "Travel. Bangalore to Pune. $400 " 11:08:47 <pravins> siddhesh: yeah, he specifically mentioned it. 11:09:03 <pravins> " Contributed patches to Anaconda Installer for redhat. " ?? 11:09:47 <pravins> -1 $400 from banglore-pune seems too much. 11:09:59 <paragan> right 11:10:25 <kushal> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/anaconda.git/log/?qt=author&q=balaji shows nothing 11:10:44 <siddhesh> #agreed decline 11:11:00 <siddhesh> wait, pjp, your vote? 11:11:03 <siddhesh> #undo 11:11:03 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by siddhesh at 11:10:44 : decline 11:11:14 <pravins> kushal: right, ideally he should give link for patches when mention this. 11:11:20 <kushal> yeah 11:11:27 <pjp> +1 for accommodation, as he is a speaker 11:11:41 <kushal> pjp, he never asked for it. 11:11:46 <pjp> -1 for travel since he is not a contributor, account created for funds request 11:11:52 <siddhesh> #agreed decline 11:12:00 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/584 11:12:07 <siddhesh> #info Shubhra Rana 11:12:15 <siddhesh> .fasinfo shubhra28 11:12:16 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: shubhra28, Name: Shubhra Rana, email: shubhra_rana@dell.com, Creation: 2015-04-23, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 11:12:18 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca 11:12:38 <siddhesh> same case. not a fedora contributor. may speak in the docker track 11:12:52 <siddhesh> she has asked only for accommodation 11:12:56 <siddhesh> +1 for accommodation 11:12:59 <amit> +1 for accomodation 11:13:18 <pravins> talk selected? 11:13:34 <siddhesh> pravins: docker track 11:13:53 <paragan> +1 for accommodation 11:14:06 <kushal> siddhesh, please check if we have any more accommodation left as of now? :) 11:14:19 <Amita> yeah 11:14:19 <siddhesh> kushal: we do 11:14:28 <Amita> +1 for accommodation thn 11:14:36 <siddhesh> https://ethercalc.org/94ee5f3lw3 11:14:39 <kushal> +1 for accommodation then 11:15:02 <pravins> ticket does not mention any talk name - even if its for docker track. 11:15:48 <siddhesh> pravins: yeah, she failed to mention it 11:16:00 <siddhesh> ok, votes: 11:16:10 <siddhesh> +1 for accommodation 11:16:16 <paragan> +1 for accommodation 11:16:23 <amit> +1 11:16:29 <pravins> +1 accommodation 11:16:46 <kushal> +1 11:16:50 <amit> pjp? 11:17:03 <pjp> 1 min 11:17:17 <Amita> +1 for accommodation 11:17:53 <siddhesh> FTR, the talk link: http://fudcon15.siddhesh.in/fudcon-pune-2015/sessions/ansible-%E2%80%93-automation-it-and-docker-provisioning 11:18:24 <siddhesh> ugh, it's not published yet, sorry 11:18:25 <kushal> Access denied 11:18:40 <kushal> I am going afk now 11:19:30 <siddhesh> pjp, your vote? 11:19:36 <amit> kushal: you will be missed 11:19:53 <pjp> Sorry, 1 min 11:21:42 <amit> we have a majority, so we could move 11:21:46 <amit> move ahead 11:21:47 <pravins> yes 5+ 11:21:56 <siddhesh> fair enough 11:21:58 <pravins> its 6+ with amita. 11:22:09 <siddhesh> #agreed approve accommodation 11:22:17 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/586 11:22:25 <siddhesh> #info KRISHNAPRASAD K 11:22:51 <siddhesh> .fasinfo krishnaprasadk 11:22:52 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: krishnaprasadk, Name: Krishnaprasad K, email: krishnaprasad_k@dell.com, Creation: 2015-03-09, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 11:22:55 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca 11:23:22 <Amita> Container track and 3 talks at barcamp tracks 11:23:29 <Amita> nice 11:23:44 <siddhesh> +1 for accommodation 11:23:49 <pravins> does not own any package in Fedora. 11:23:50 <amit> +1 for accomodation 11:24:20 <pjp> Sorry guys, I need to leave for a bit 11:24:31 <pjp> I'll follow up on the list later 11:24:35 <amit> pjp: scheduling meeting? 11:24:45 <amit> (sorry a bit off-topic) 11:24:54 <pjp> amit: Oh, doesn't seem possible today 11:24:59 <amit> pjp: fine 11:24:59 <pravins> his talk selected? 11:25:07 <siddhesh> pravins: nope, all declined 11:25:18 <siddhesh> the docker track talk is 11:26:41 <Amita> +1 for accommodation 11:27:32 <pravins> -1 no talk selected and not active Fedora contributor. BarCamp depends on the day. 11:27:45 <siddhesh> pravins: docker track talk is selected 11:27:59 <paragan> +1 for accommodation then 11:28:01 <pravins> changing my vote 11:28:04 <pravins> +1 for stay. 11:28:21 <siddhesh> #agreed approve accommodation 11:28:33 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/587 11:28:40 <siddhesh> #info Mohan Prakash 11:29:27 <siddhesh> .fasinfo mpduty 11:29:33 <zodbot> siddhesh: User: mpduty, Name: Mohan Prakash, email: mpduty@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-03-15, IRC Nick: mpduty, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: AF620142, Status: active 11:29:36 <zodbot> siddhesh: Unapproved Groups: cvsl10n 11:29:39 <zodbot> siddhesh: Approved Groups: fi-apprentice cla_fpca cla_done docs fedorabugs 11:30:07 <siddhesh> he has an accepted talk 11:30:13 <pravins> yes 11:30:14 <siddhesh> but his request is very confusing 11:30:23 <pravins> "Android Development on Fedora 21" 11:30:48 <pravins> he has not mentioned about stay anyway. 11:32:13 <siddhesh> is he a pune local? 11:33:00 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mpduty 11:33:06 <pravins> "Ranchi, Jharkhand, India " 11:33:16 <Amita> Ranchi, Jharkhand 11:33:24 <Amita> finally a person with fedora wiki page 11:33:30 <pravins> he is Fedora contributor 11:33:46 <Amita> +1 for him 11:33:46 <paragan> yes 11:33:48 <amit> pune->ranchi right now is < $100 11:34:08 <siddhesh> +1 for travel, cap it at $100 11:34:08 <amit> +1 for $100 11:34:18 <pravins> Contributor + Talk selected. 11:34:27 <pravins> +1 travel + stay. 11:34:50 <pravins> good to ask him whether he required Stay. Not clear from ticket. 11:35:03 <siddhesh> sure, why not 11:35:19 <paragan> +1 for travel and if he need stay then +1 for stay also 11:35:43 <siddhesh> #agreed approve travel at $100. ask about stay as well 11:35:48 <siddhesh> last two tickets! 11:36:03 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/588 11:36:06 <siddhesh> #info Rejy 11:37:10 <amit> .fasinfo rejymc 11:37:11 <zodbot> amit: User: rejymc, Name: Rejy M Cyriac, email: rejymc@gmail.com, Creation: 2009-02-06, IRC Nick: rejy, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active 11:37:14 <zodbot> amit: Approved Groups: freemedia cla_fedora cla_done cla_fpca fedorabugs +qa 11:37:31 <amit> has a talk on selinux 11:37:37 <pravins> His talk selected + Fedora contributor. 11:37:38 <Amita> +1 11:37:44 <amit> but interesting ticket - we'll have to decide how much to cap it at 11:37:51 <siddhesh> he has asked for travel 11:37:55 <Amita> Bangalore to Pune by my own car 11:38:49 <amit> he's mentioned $130 in comment 11:38:54 <amit> +1 for $130 11:38:58 <siddhesh> pjp gave an estimate of about $130 11:39:03 <siddhesh> which is fine 11:39:12 <siddhesh> the question is, how do we reimburse? 11:39:14 <pravins> amit: against bill receipt not more that $132 looks fine. 11:39:51 <paragan> maybe one or more bill receipts not more than $130 bills 11:40:12 <siddhesh> we need to ask what kinds of bills are accepted for these payments 11:40:20 <amit> my mistake - pjp mentioned $130, not rejy 11:40:21 <siddhesh> we need to ask ruth or someone else about this 11:40:34 <pravins> yes 11:40:46 <pravins> +1 approved for $130. 11:41:15 <amit> but $130 looks like a good estimate 11:41:40 <siddhesh> +1 for $130 11:41:44 <pravins> mine +1 for Jiri Eischmann ticket as well. 11:41:44 <paragan> budget seems fine but is that one of the way we also use to provide reimbursements? 11:41:50 * pravins leaving now. 11:42:00 <siddhesh> pravins: ok, thanks :) 11:42:09 <pravins> thanks :) 11:42:40 <siddhesh> paragan: we need to figure out specifics with ruth 11:42:54 <paragan> okay 11:43:06 <amit> most petrol pumps have printed receipts - we can use those. we'll have to mention in ticket that rejy needs to produce those receipts for reimbursement 11:43:41 <paragan> good to get printed receipts only 11:43:57 <amit> yea. 11:44:00 <amit> paragan: vote? 11:44:16 <paragan> +1 for his $130 travel request 11:44:19 <siddhesh> #agreed approve travel up to $130 11:44:28 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/607 11:44:35 <siddhesh> #info Jiri Eischmann 11:44:39 <siddhesh> +1 for stay 11:44:44 <amit> .fasinfo sesivany 11:44:45 <zodbot> amit: User "sesivany" doesn't exist 11:44:59 <amit> .fasinfo eischmann 11:45:00 <zodbot> amit: User: eischmann, Name: Jiri Eischmann, email: eischmann@redhat.com, Creation: 2011-02-20, IRC Nick: sesivany, Timezone: Europe/Prague, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 62B33B9B92D2075EC94F9616BB8AEF91142CD589, Status: active 11:45:03 <zodbot> amit: Approved Groups: cla_fedora cla_done marketing @gitfedoracz cla_fpca cvsl10n @famsco +ambassadors 11:45:33 <amit> +1 for stay 11:45:38 <amit> pravins has given his +1 11:45:52 <paragan> +1 for stay 11:46:31 <amit> Amita: ? 11:46:48 <Amita> ahhaa Jiri 11:46:49 <Amita> +! 11:46:51 <Amita> +1 11:47:03 <amit> #agreed approve stay 11:47:11 <siddhesh> and we're done! 11:47:19 <amit> #topic open floor 11:47:19 <paragan> :) 11:47:38 <siddhesh> now there's $2,570 balance 11:47:46 <siddhesh> and we have multiple contenders for them 11:47:54 <siddhesh> dgilmore the primary one at $2000 11:48:03 <siddhesh> jens petersen at $600 11:48:16 <paragan> who else is remained to be considered for budget? 11:48:31 <siddhesh> and I think there are a couple of others who were given partial support 11:48:39 <amit> somvannda 11:48:50 <siddhesh> correction, $2440 11:49:03 <paragan> ok 11:49:58 <Amita> siddhesh, one update 11:50:14 <Amita> jrusnack may not come 11:50:20 <siddhesh> oh, why? 11:50:50 <Amita> unknown/different reasons 11:51:11 <Amita> It is better to confirm with him on ticket 11:51:23 <siddhesh> Amita: ok, please do then 11:51:25 <Amita> so that we will have clear state of money 11:51:43 <Amita> siddhesh, sure 11:53:04 <siddhesh> can we approve jens' request for $600? 11:53:31 <Amita> yeah, why not if we have budget 11:53:37 <siddhesh> +1 from me, since we have budget and he is an apac contributor 11:53:39 <amit> siddhesh: change topic? 11:53:43 <siddhesh> I'm sure pravins is +1 11:54:10 <paragan> +1 11:54:18 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/602 11:54:27 <amit> so I recall pjp and me +1'ing $400 11:54:33 <amit> and pravins had agreed to that 11:54:49 <siddhesh> ok, then we can set the cap at 400 and then reimburse more if we have balance 11:55:29 <siddhesh> Amita, paragan is that OK? 11:55:35 <paragan> yes 11:55:38 <Amita> yupp 11:55:45 <amit> from the logs: 11:55:46 <amit> 10:06:48 <amit> pjp: agreed. also from RH, so he should try that too. 11:55:46 <amit> 10:06:52 <amit> +1 for $400 11:55:47 <amit> 10:06:54 <pravins> amit: yes 11:56:10 <siddhesh> #agreed approve partial travel of $400, revisit if we have more funds 11:56:27 <siddhesh> and that leaves us with $2,040 surplus 11:57:37 <siddhesh> which almost exactly matches dennis gilmore's request! 11:57:41 <Amita> dennis gilmore 11:57:43 <Amita> +! 11:57:46 <Amita> +1 11:57:59 <Amita> lets do it siddhesh :) 11:58:01 <siddhesh> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/551 11:58:10 <siddhesh> #info Dennis Gilmore 11:58:28 <siddhesh> +1! 11:58:40 <paragan> +1 for Dennis's $2000 request 11:58:41 <Amita> .fasinfo Dennis Gilmore 11:58:42 <zodbot> Amita: User "Dennis Gilmore" doesn't exist 11:58:47 <Amita> :P 11:59:06 <Amita> .fasinfo ausil 11:59:07 <zodbot> Amita: User: ausil, Name: Dennis Gilmore, email: dennis@ausil.us, Creation: 2005-04-18, IRC Nick: dgilmore, Timezone: Australia/Brisbane, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 663C50D1, Status: active 11:59:10 <zodbot> Amita: Approved Groups: @sysadmin-secondary accounts cla_done fedorabugs cvsfedora +packager @sysadmin-main @sysadmin-build +sysadmin hgsmolt cvsadmin @sysadmin-cvs @epel-releng cla_fedora @sysadmin-securit sysadmin-hosted fedora-sparc @hgfedora-packager @sysadmin-tools sysadmin-devel gitkoji @sysadmin-backup sysadmin-web @fedora-ia64 sysadmin-noc @fedora-s390 releng +sysadmin-dba @fedora-arm @provenpackager (2 more messages) 11:59:15 <Amita> more 11:59:27 <Amita> .more 11:59:27 <zodbot> Amita: +bodhiadmin ambassadors gitfreeseer @signers bzrpython-fedora @bzrcomlink gitspin-kickstarts @gitfedora-release aws gitsupybot-fedora gitmock proventesters cla_fpca @fedora-ppc gitarm gitrhrpmconfig gitcloud-kickstarts @gitreleng @gitfedpkg gitlorax @gitpungi @gitrpkg +gitmash @gitarm-boot-config @arm-qa +epel-wranglers @gitgeneric-release @sysadmin-releng @gitappliancetools aarch64 sysadmin-darkserver (1 more message) 11:59:31 <Amita> .more 11:59:31 <zodbot> Amita: @gitepel @gitfedora-docker @torrentadmin atomic sysadmin-atomic 11:59:42 <siddhesh> paragan, amit: your votes? 11:59:45 <Amita> lots of reasons for +1 11:59:50 <paragan> +1 11:59:58 <amit> +1 12:00:18 <siddhesh> #agreed approved for $2000 12:00:23 <Amita> :D 12:00:25 <Amita> happy 12:00:27 <siddhesh> and that takes care of all tickets! 12:00:34 <Amita> finally! 12:00:53 <amit> we will need another pass -- somvannda 12:01:15 <amit> plus there was another student - giriraj sharma, whom we could give acco only 12:01:18 <amit> like other cases 12:01:21 <siddhesh> amit: agreed. we may need additional passes based on cancellations, etc. 12:01:25 <amit> #topic open floor 12:01:40 <amit> we have currently rejected giriraj 12:01:48 <amit> yea - so one more pass. 12:01:57 <amit> declined his ticket, I mean 12:02:07 <siddhesh> so I'll keep next week's meeting reminder intact 12:02:12 <amit> yep. 12:02:33 <paragan> sure 12:02:40 <siddhesh> I'll tell somvannda and izhar to hold on and also tell them about ruth's idea of checking on wednesdays 12:02:54 <amit> yea 12:03:11 <siddhesh> I'll also tell them to book if the cost is closer to $600 12:03:39 <amit> done! 12:03:57 <siddhesh> great, so I'll end this meeting, unless there are any other questions? 12:04:07 <siddhesh> going once. 12:04:12 <siddhesh> going twice.. 12:04:17 <siddhesh> #endmeeting