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20:05:48 <spevack> #topic How To Join The Fedora Community
20:05:54 <spevack> Speakers -- Bert Desmet and Yaakov Nemoy
20:06:10 <spevack> 30 second video cartoon being shown
20:06:14 <spevack> penguins being attacked by a shark
20:06:24 <spevack> penguins are smarter than the stupid shark
20:06:30 <spevack> "it's smarter to travel in groups" is the tag line
20:06:34 * mchua thanks spevack for notes, yay!
20:06:51 <spevack> #link http://join.fedoraproject.org
20:07:13 <spevack> Yaakov -- let's get to know the 3 newbies in the room
20:07:28 <spevack> Where are you coming from, etc?
20:07:52 <spevack> Guy #1 -- student at Seneca.  Getting in-depth w/ Fedora through Chris Tyler's software building and release class.
20:08:00 <spevack> Contributing by trying to get stuff packaged
20:08:25 <spevack> Fedora 13 deliverables.
20:08:35 <spevack> Started focusing on Fedora specifically this semester.
20:08:42 <spevack> Yaakov -- are you looking to get more involved in development?
20:09:01 <spevack> Answer -- goal is to get more involved, period.
20:09:36 <spevack> Guy #2 -- Got to know about fedora 10 weeks ago.
20:09:46 <spevack> And loves it!  Wants to see how to contribute.
20:09:56 <spevack> Computer Systems Technology student
20:10:41 <spevack> #link http://join.fedoraproject.org
20:11:12 <spevack> Yaakov -- a lot of Fedora is focused around the primary OS development.
20:11:22 <spevack> Yaakov -- surrounding that is the infrastructure -- web admins, sysadmins, etc.
20:11:33 <spevack> Yaakov -- furthermore, there is a huge packaging community.
20:11:53 <spevack> Yaakov -- finally, a giant ecosystem of docs, other projects built on Fedora, etc.  Ambassadors, Design, communications, etc.
20:13:46 <anthro-diana> Spevack starts talking about his experience working at RH & RH product managers
20:15:08 <anthro-diana> Experience in an open source community is essential to being able to further the community in other ways
20:15:23 <anthro-diana> Relationships are important to the community
20:16:47 <anthro-diana> Interesting thing for anyone who wants to build their career in this business does well to start with fedora because of the community knowledge and expertise
20:28:02 <spevack> spevack hijacks the talk, and thus the notes fell apart
20:29:37 <anthro-diana> Turning Googlers into Contributors
20:30:13 <spevack> Max did his standard "pyramid of contribution" spiel
20:30:26 <spevack> Googlers -> bug filers -> patchers -> key developers
20:30:34 <spevack> Solve YOUR PROBLEMS using Fedora as a tool
20:31:48 <spevack> etc
20:32:53 <spevack> Yaakov shows off some Fedora tools
20:33:00 <spevack> #link http://planet.fedoraproject.org
20:33:15 <spevack> #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/
20:46:27 * mchua asks: are there types of contributors we haven't seen (or seen very much of) yet that we'd particularly like to see more of?
20:47:01 * mchua is thinking of invisible traceback folks here - who would we, individually, like to ask to participate?
20:51:29 <anthro-diana> Some people join after tinkering others join after finding the community was the best fit without ever using the distro first
20:52:19 <mchua> wow, how do people find the community in the latter case?
20:52:24 <anthro-diana> Question I have - what made the community a good fit and what do people hope to get out of joining it
20:53:01 <anthro-diana> Haven't got to ask yet mchua
20:53:22 <anthro-diana> talk is jumpin around a lot
20:53:30 * spevack is exceedingly frustrated
20:54:00 <anthro-diana> I'll ask in my panel though!
20:54:09 <spevack> good
20:56:09 <mchua> anthro-diana, spevack: raise hand, ask question doesn't work?
20:56:55 <spevack> there have been some questions, mchua
20:57:18 <spevack> yaakov is answering one now about security & linux
20:57:37 <spevack> It's almost time for the next session
20:57:42 <spevack> #endmeeting