2025-01-29 14:00:14 <@humaton:fedora.im> !startmeeting Git Forge Meeting
2025-01-29 14:00:15 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-29 14:00:14 UTC
2025-01-29 14:00:15 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Git Forge Meeting'
2025-01-29 14:00:16 <@smilner:fedora.im> 🥱👋
2025-01-29 14:00:27 <@smilner:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-29 14:00:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (smilner)
2025-01-29 14:00:36 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !hi
2025-01-29 14:00:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michal Konecny (zlopez)
2025-01-29 14:00:45 <@blc:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-29 14:00:45 <@ekidney:matrix.org> !hi 
2025-01-29 14:00:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Brendan Conoboy (blc)
2025-01-29 14:00:48 <@zodbot:fedora.im> emma kidney (ekidney) - she / her / hers
2025-01-29 14:00:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> !info this is meeting about the Fedora git forge replacement
2025-01-29 14:00:56 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic init
2025-01-29 14:01:29 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-29 14:01:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney (amoloney)
2025-01-29 14:03:19 <@james:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-29 14:03:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> James Antill (james)
2025-01-29 14:05:54 <@humaton:fedora.im> hello and welcome everybody
2025-01-29 14:06:11 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic Meeting structure
2025-01-29 14:06:26 <@humaton:fedora.im> !link https://codeberg.org/fedora/gitforge-migration/src/branch/main/meeting.md
2025-01-29 14:06:48 <@humaton:fedora.im> I have updated the structure and included feedback from the last week
2025-01-29 14:07:32 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-29 14:07:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Lenka Segura (lenkaseg)
2025-01-29 14:07:40 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-29 14:07:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Nils Philippsen (nphilipp) - he / him / his
2025-01-29 14:09:18 <@humaton:fedora.im> if there is any additional sections or other feedback for the meeting structure. Speak now or open ticket in in associated tracker.
2025-01-29 14:10:09 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic Tickets and Updates
2025-01-29 14:10:12 <@humaton:fedora.im> !info go over tickets and updates
2025-01-29 14:10:20 <@humaton:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/forgejo-deployment/issues
2025-01-29 14:11:05 <@humaton:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/forgejo-deployment/issue/1
2025-01-29 14:11:29 <@humaton:fedora.im> So I have updated the pipeline and it no longer fails and it builds upstream development branch 
2025-01-29 14:11:35 <@smilner:fedora.im> <3 we have "Definition of Done" listed!
2025-01-29 14:12:38 <@humaton:fedora.im> I am not goingo to make anything "done" that is a demo for other people o pickup and build upon.
2025-01-29 14:12:56 <@humaton:fedora.im> I am not going to make anything "done" that is a demo for other people o pickup and build upon.
2025-01-29 14:13:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> this is how new pipeline is created 
2025-01-29 14:13:51 <@humaton:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-infra/forgejo-deployment-images/pull/3
2025-01-29 14:15:42 <@humaton:fedora.im> anyway info is in the ticket if anybody want to play with konflux and building forgejo fell free to do so. 
2025-01-29 14:16:15 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic forgejo-deployment/issue/7
2025-01-29 14:16:18 <@humaton:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/forgejo-deployment/issue/7
2025-01-29 14:16:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> so we need a voulenteer that will generate the spec file and start package review process
2025-01-29 14:17:25 <@humaton:fedora.im> once the review is started we will have a place to point go community from around the project to help us out.
2025-01-29 14:17:33 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> I volunteer either for that, or doing the review
2025-01-29 14:17:35 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I can probably start working on that, do we want to have that officially in Fedora of just fedora infra SIG?
2025-01-29 14:17:53 <@humaton:fedora.im> It should be in Fedora proper
2025-01-29 14:18:08 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Just for infra we wouldn’t need a formal review
2025-01-29 14:18:28 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Do we want it for EPEL as well?
2025-01-29 14:18:48 <@humaton:fedora.im> Probably
2025-01-29 14:18:55 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> The goland deps would be vendored, no idea if this would fly in EPEL
2025-01-29 14:19:08 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Without vendored deps, it’s going to be much more work potentially
2025-01-29 14:19:08 <@humaton:fedora.im> but if I understand the bundling correctly it will be the same thing
2025-01-29 14:19:15 <@smilner:fedora.im> Carl George Diego Herrera thoughts?
2025-01-29 14:19:32 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> The golang deps would be vendored, no idea if this would fly in EPEL
2025-01-29 14:19:59 <@humaton:fedora.im> People from GO SiG also mentioned they will help
2025-01-29 14:20:11 <@dherrera:fedora.im> As far as i remember, if it works for Fedora there shouldnt be a problem
2025-01-29 14:20:18 <@humaton:fedora.im> so maybe we should provide spec and the package and they can provide feedback
2025-01-29 14:20:27 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> i definitely recommending vendoring go apps in epel
2025-01-29 14:20:30 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> AIUI, it’s only legit from F43 on
2025-01-29 14:20:41 <@humaton:fedora.im> nope its gefault from 43+
2025-01-29 14:20:55 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Aaaaah
2025-01-29 14:20:59 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> TIL
2025-01-29 14:21:05 <@humaton:fedora.im> nope its default from 43+
2025-01-29 14:21:27 <@humaton:fedora.im> The ticket is your nils
2025-01-29 14:21:40 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> That will make so many things so much easier. I remember giving up packaging something goland-based in desperation because of deps hell 😅
2025-01-29 14:22:14 <@carlwgeorge:fedora.im> if you need an example to work off, take a look at fzf, which i recently vendored to build in epel8/epel10
2025-01-29 14:22:34 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Thanks jednorozec Carl George 
2025-01-29 14:23:32 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic forgejo-deployment/issue/5
2025-01-29 14:23:34 <@humaton:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/forgejo-deployment/issue/5
2025-01-29 14:24:04 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> o/ helm is now available on the os-control machines
2025-01-29 14:24:34 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> i've got a playbook/role in the fedora-infra ansible that can successfully call to the machines and call helm..
2025-01-29 14:24:47 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> so good to go with a staging deploy using the usptream oci images maybe ?
2025-01-29 14:24:48 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/c/0ba5409a9f2ca557d26af1e76433610a17ad4b2b?branch=main
2025-01-29 14:25:05 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> I was just having a look at David's PR :)
2025-01-29 14:25:07 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> David Kirwan: so much for my question in the ticket 😁
2025-01-29 14:25:35 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> the systems run rhel, and hmm the helm package is not in epel i dont think
2025-01-29 14:26:39 <@humaton:fedora.im> does openshift cluster need something special to be ablu to run helm deplouyments? David Kirwan 
2025-01-29 14:26:50 <@humaton:fedora.im> other than the binary 
2025-01-29 14:26:55 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> nope not as far as i know
2025-01-29 14:28:00 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> the config to auth with the cluster is on those machines and helm seems to be working so ready to try actually install forgejo in staging using the upstream images id day
2025-01-29 14:28:03 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> id say*
2025-01-29 14:28:22 <@humaton:fedora.im> which brings us to the next ticket
2025-01-29 14:28:34 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic forgejo-deployment/issue/2
2025-01-29 14:28:38 <@humaton:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/forgejo-deployment/issue/2
2025-01-29 14:29:01 <@humaton:fedora.im> So I think running the helm requires one to be in sysadmin-opneshift 
2025-01-29 14:29:12 <@humaton:fedora.im> who wants to try this?
2025-01-29 14:29:56 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> it will involve having helm call the following:  helm install forgejo oci://code.forgejo.org/forgejo-helm/forgejo
2025-01-29 14:30:10 <@humaton:fedora.im> or https://codeberg.org/fedora/forgejo-helm
2025-01-29 14:30:59 <@humaton:fedora.im> but yeah running it its straight forward, It will also require bunch of reasonable changes
2025-01-29 14:31:06 <@humaton:fedora.im> like disbale registration by default
2025-01-29 14:32:16 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> Think to use the fedora-forgejo-helm we need the oci images available already but maybe there is a way to call it after a git checkout locally with helm
2025-01-29 14:32:52 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> I can do it if no one else wants to try 
2025-01-29 14:33:02 <@humaton:fedora.im> well we can always enable the actions that are in the repo they will build the image that is used for the deployment.
2025-01-29 14:33:29 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Can I be around to learn?
2025-01-29 14:33:44 <@humaton:fedora.im> But using Konflux will hit another target we have on the project roadmap
2025-01-29 14:34:13 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Thanks!David Kirwan David Kirwan 
2025-01-29 14:34:16 <@humaton:fedora.im> I am giving you the ticket David Kirwan  once you are sure help works can you please also close the previous one?
2025-01-29 14:36:33 <@humaton:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2025-01-29 14:37:00 <@humaton:fedora.im> Thats all i had, all other work is blocked on us having staging deployment.
2025-01-29 14:37:20 <@humaton:fedora.im> Any topics for open floor?
2025-01-29 14:39:01 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> Do we have a list of modifications that we know we need to make immediately to the staging install ?
2025-01-29 14:39:34 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> Might be good to spend some time figuring out what they are, and researching how to make the configuration changes? Maybe producing a configuration that can be passed into helm via variables or whatever
2025-01-29 14:41:48 <@smilner:fedora.im> That sounds like a good idea to me David Kirwan! 
2025-01-29 14:42:22 <@humaton:fedora.im> Its actually part of the helm documentation
2025-01-29 14:42:37 <@humaton:fedora.im> it includes links to forgejo templating modding how to
2025-01-29 14:43:20 <@humaton:fedora.im> in the root of the forgejo-helm there is a templates dir
2025-01-29 14:45:25 <@humaton:fedora.im> As it goes for what changes there is a list of them. I will put it into a ticket. But as it goes about how to do it there is nothing like reading the docs :D
2025-01-29 14:45:49 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> Ok so for someone wanting to disasble logins for example by default on a fresh install, could clone that repo, make the ch anges locally, and try install forgejo locally via helm on maybe a code ready containers or minishift openshift install
2025-01-29 14:46:37 <@humaton:fedora.im> Yeah. 
2025-01-29 14:49:15 <@smilner:fedora.im> Do we have a self formed sub team of people who are going to be focusing on these tickets? Or are we doing things more adhoc?
2025-01-29 14:49:52 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> Should maybe look at a subteam if we want this done timely ! ;D
2025-01-29 14:50:47 <@humaton:fedora.im> What do you meant by sub team?
2025-01-29 14:51:04 <@dkirwan:fedora.im> but once helm was called... forgejo appeared pretty quick.. like  minutes from memory when looking over jednorozec 's shoulders one day
2025-01-29 14:51:14 <@humaton:fedora.im> why? We should track all the work in that tracker so everyone willing to work on something should have one assigned
2025-01-29 14:53:12 <@smilner:fedora.im> There isn't a right or wrong answer, just curious :-) 
2025-01-29 14:53:12 <@smilner:fedora.im> The subteam idea just means people who are responsible and accountable to move the Gitforge work forward from the technical standpoint, together. Others can absolutely join or pick up tickets, but there would be a group of people who are focusing on this.
2025-01-29 14:53:12 <@smilner:fedora.im> 
2025-01-29 14:54:00 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> It helps if someone is around with a license to nag 😉
2025-01-29 14:54:29 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Speaking as someone on the receiving end of being nagged
2025-01-29 14:55:36 <@humaton:fedora.im> I may be missing something but the people who are present are those responsible for implementation. 
2025-01-29 14:55:37 <@smilner:fedora.im> We don't need an answer to this right this moment, just something to think about!
2025-01-29 14:56:15 <@humaton:fedora.im> I am trying to understand the question because in my mind it does not make sense. 
2025-01-29 14:56:16 <@smilner:fedora.im> If that's the expectation, that works too!
2025-01-29 14:56:20 <@humaton:fedora.im> But my mind is blind...
2025-01-29 14:56:30 <@smilner:fedora.im> "If everyone owns it, no one owns it"
2025-01-29 14:56:39 <@smilner:fedora.im> That's where my question stems from
2025-01-29 14:56:48 <@humaton:fedora.im> Ok I own it ;D
2025-01-29 14:57:04 <@humaton:fedora.im> I will be pinging YOU guys present here and demanding answers!
2025-01-29 14:57:05 <@humaton:fedora.im> :D
2025-01-29 14:57:14 <@smilner:fedora.im> That works!
2025-01-29 14:57:42 <@humaton:fedora.im> !endmeeting