02:14:34 #startmeeting 02:14:34 Meeting started Fri Aug 24 02:14:34 2012 UTC. The chair is johnmark. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:14:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:14:43 #action send note to sampath and hagarth on major site maintenance 02:14:56 Technicool: and then it automagically is included 02:15:19 I've never had a hiccup on a Debian live upgrade :) 02:15:30 let's live dangerously!!!! 02:15:32 or not 02:15:44 #halp 02:15:44 #info johnmark just doom-jinxed us all 02:15:49 teehee 02:16:33 ok, agreed that maintenance is needed, we may want to hold off until next weekend to allow them ample time 02:16:51 otherwise, i know a guy (not me) whose motto is "its just data" 02:16:52 Technicool: sur 02:16:54 sure 02:16:56 so, lets go nuts 02:16:57 haha! 02:17:17 the good news is that I believe we have two servers 02:17:32 so we can upgrade one and then cut over the DNS 02:17:41 we do, but i don't think they are failover 02:17:44 lh: greetings, earthling 02:17:52 Technicool: they're not failover anymore 02:18:00 but only one responds to gluster.org 02:18:08 johnmark, and to thee 02:18:17 so we just switch the CNAME when the upgrade is complete 02:18:17 greeting as well mojavelinux 02:18:26 mojavelinux: howdy, howdy 02:18:27 hey there! 02:18:30 :) 02:18:32 mojavelinux, ^5 02:18:39 I was debugging :/ 02:18:44 mojavelinux: we were just debating the merits of an in-place upgrade of gluster.org 02:18:45 mojavelinux, you missed it but you are going to do a live upgrade on the website tomorrow morning 02:18:50 hahaha 02:19:00 oh, more debugging 02:19:24 well, not really live. Using the backup server - I think they're identical 02:19:27 no, johnmark has given assurances that no issues will arise 02:19:32 Technicool: er, yeah 02:19:35 johnmark, we can confirm 02:19:43 * Technicool begins confirming 02:19:46 Technicool: and we will. 02:20:05 Technicool: can you send a note to hagarth and Sampath? 02:20:31 johnmark, yes thats what i tried to log with the #action above ^ 02:20:43 oh right. that :) 02:20:49 #halp 02:21:10 #action Technicool to run upgrade plans by hagarth and Sampath 02:21:24 I forgot how to grant admin privs to others 02:21:39 Technicool: anyway, anything new in docs? 02:22:20 johnmark, a few more stub entries, on the actual substance front, I was working on the hadoop plugin and UFO 02:22:35 Technicool: awesome. yeah, it's a busy week, and next week, too 02:22:43 the hadoop plugin doc is experiencing technical difficulties as you know 02:22:49 indeed :( 02:23:03 Technicool: did you look at the official red hat docs? they might be slightly better 02:23:11 but I'm guessing probably not 02:23:16 the UFO one is moving in stride, with some good ideas generated from the meetup 02:23:33 johnmark, am i allowed to say in semi-public? ;) 02:23:34 Technicool: that's excellent 02:23:42 haha 02:23:52 Technicool: you can say whatever you want :) 02:24:19 in that case, no doc of any sort enabled me to be successful 02:24:20 ok, and I need unleash teh hounds on community.gluster.org 02:24:30 in the time while we still have it, it needs to get more action 02:24:47 #action johnmark to send unanswered Q's list to gluster-users 02:24:54 ah, yes 02:24:58 Technicool: eek 02:25:04 tres sad 02:25:08 will scour that as well 02:25:20 a direct question last night was "does it work" 02:25:31 haha! 02:25:32 (the hadoop plugin) 02:25:32 i'm starting to get scared of more heartbreak trying to get the hadoop integration setup :0 02:25:35 hillarious 02:25:42 hehehe 02:25:50 to which my answer was to eat my pride in full view of all attending 02:25:54 mojavelinux: Yeah, unfortunately, it's looking like it will need a rebase before it's usable for common folk 02:25:56 I think I like to try everything hard first, but as they say, eat the frog first 02:26:07 :) 02:26:17 I've never been told that, but hey, YMMV 02:26:20 * Technicool ate the frog, his goat friend and what appeared to be a chupacabra 02:26:33 mojavelinux: what have the French ever done to you??? 02:26:36 schmoozing the goat of course 02:26:47 mojavelinux: good luck with the move 02:27:24 and I think we'll defer talk of replacement web parts until next week 02:27:35 mojavelinux: oh, I was supposed to ask you about project management software 02:28:02 #action johnmark to discuss project mgmt software with mojavelinux 02:28:22 * Technicool would like to attend 02:28:57 Technicool: which? project management software discussion? 02:29:00 yes 02:29:08 * johnmark rubs evil hands together. evilly. 02:29:25 #action johnmark to discuss PM software with mojavelinux AND Technicool 02:29:30 im so in 02:29:36 first, i emailed the president 02:29:37 now, this 02:29:40 cool. let's do that tomorrow, since next week is so f'd up 02:29:42 haha 02:29:45 nice. i'm no expert on pm software, but i've got some ideas 02:29:52 mojavelinux: excellelnt 02:30:02 lh: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 02:30:04 if there's one requirement I do think we should stick to, it's that it should be OSS software :) 02:30:16 wrong window 02:30:18 sorry 02:30:21 hahaha 02:30:30 zodbot was like "no" 02:30:31 mojavelinux: werd 02:30:32 lh is using my 1400 baud modem from 1990 02:30:38 lh: ah hahaha 02:30:49 mojavelinux: so yes, agreed. let's stick with FOSS 02:31:00 oops, wrong window i meant...i just assumed it was delayed 02:31:32 Technicool: do you know what quaid refers to when he says "I'm looking for a wiki space where I can use my user area to do something like this: 02:31:35 " 02:31:46 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Quaid/Community_metrics 02:31:54 thats a big chunk of sentence 02:32:01 ah...sort of, not really 02:32:16 afaik he should be able to do that now 02:32:30 i am unclear how the stats and the wiki are integrated 02:32:36 as a friend of mine often says "I can't parse that" 02:32:38 #action johnmark and Technicool to corner quaid on his metrics desires 02:32:45 mojavelinux, that was perfect 02:32:51 heh 02:33:00 johnmark, i think the request is twofold 02:33:01 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Quaid/Community_metrics 02:33:07 ok 02:33:12 on one hand, he wants the metrics tracking 02:33:20 on the other hand, a place to publish them 02:33:21 Technicool: right, that I understand 02:33:26 thats my understanding 02:33:33 then you and i are tied 02:33:39 right. but he can create an account. there's nothing standing in his way :) 02:33:52 correct, that's where i am disconnecting as well 02:34:06 ok. we'll just ask him to 'splain sumtin' lucy 02:34:15 anyhoo 02:34:19 anything else pressing? 02:34:21 even if the request is to do some sort of automation, he has sudo on the server 02:34:31 oh, got it, parser retry success 02:34:31 #agreed 02:35:00 #parser.retry(true) 02:35:03 haha 02:35:06 hagarth: howdy 02:35:29 hagarth: tomorrow, Technicool and I need to gang up on you and Sampath to discuss gluster.org upgrade 02:35:31 why has noone ever seen hagarth and lh in the same room? 02:35:38 it's a mystery :) 02:35:59 johnmark: howdy 02:36:08 johnmark: sure 02:36:09 hagarth: so we need to work out a backup strategy and schedule some downtime 02:36:20 which I'm hoping we could do by next weekend 02:36:37 say September 1 02:36:52 johnmark: ok 02:37:01 hagarth: and I can't get anyone from RHIT to answer my emails now. 02:37:13 that's what Google+ is for 02:37:25 and twitter, you just need some public shaming 02:37:33 Google+ is for something? ;) 02:37:35 mojavelinux: haha. oh yes, never fails 02:38:06 hagarth: so migration is on hold until we can kick them in the shins 02:38:21 hagarth: oh, speaking of. what kind of memory requirements do you need for jenkins + gerritt + git? 02:38:29 and CPU reqs, too 02:38:38 hagarth: that's something I wasn't sure of as we're spec'ing things out 02:38:42 why not use openshift for jenkins (or has that already been discussed?) 02:38:59 johnmark: 8G + 12 cores should do 02:39:03 mojavelinux: haven't discussed it. I have to admit that the prospect scares me :) 02:39:10 hagarth: ok. I'll run with that 02:39:52 they give projects larger resources than the free accounts...so it's like having a full blown hosting...however, that said 02:40:04 #action johnmark so send more server specs to RHIT and other competing hosts 02:40:06 eek! we also need the cpu's to be better than Core 2 Duo... 02:40:14 i'm used to using jenkins to build java projects, not fs tests 02:40:32 :) 02:41:02 Core 2 Quad, my apologies...either way, something built in the last 4 years 02:41:05 hagarth: do you have time to work with Sampath on backup and upgrade plan? one of us can also do it 02:41:46 hagarth: nevermind - I'll send a note to you and Sampath, and we'll work it out in email 02:41:53 johnmark: sounds good 02:42:00 hagarth: cool. thanks :) 02:42:37 ok. those are the hot-button things. many of us are traveling next week, so I'm thinking we'll cancel and pick this back up the following week 02:43:06 i'll really be traveling...I'll be on a 3 day drive out west 02:43:15 ha. please be safe 02:43:16 by the end I may ditch the Prius and come in on horseback 02:43:18 mojavelinux, just did that drive 02:43:19 woooo! 02:43:27 except from east back west 02:43:45 my wife totalled an SUV on the trip out, so yes, be careful 02:43:50 ouch :( 02:43:53 oh, shoot 02:43:58 deer ...not as friendly as they look 02:44:01 #endmeeting