12:04:47 <davemc> #startmeeting
12:04:47 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 19 12:04:47 2014 UTC.  The chair is davemc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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12:05:05 <davemc> community meeting
12:05:19 <davemc> etherpad is at https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-community-meetings
12:05:35 <davemc> which also has the agenda
12:05:42 <lalatenduM> #chair ndevos hchiramm Debloper lalatenduM
12:05:49 <davemc> Roll call
12:05:54 <davemc> who's here
12:05:59 * davemc is here
12:06:01 * overclk is here
12:06:02 * hagarth is here
12:06:03 * ndevos is here
12:06:04 * lalatenduM is here
12:06:05 * Debloper is here
12:06:05 * hchiramm_ is here
12:06:27 <davemc> from th elast meeting
12:06:46 <davemc> #item hagarth to update maintainers file
12:06:51 <hagarth> davemc: still TBD
12:06:58 <hagarth> i hope to complete it this week
12:07:08 <davemc> no problem
12:07:38 <davemc> #item  hagarth to send an email about release maintainer for 3.6
12:07:44 <hagarth> davemc: done
12:08:12 <davemc> cool
12:08:22 <davemc> #item     Humble create a maintainer wiki page
12:08:25 <davemc> looks done
12:08:45 <hchiramm_> page is available ..
12:08:54 <hchiramm_> I will update the content once hagarth's patch is in
12:09:06 <davemc> sounds good
12:09:18 <davemc> #item ndevos, lalatenduM, kkeithley and Humble to propose a long term solution to the packaging problem in CentOS/RHEL
12:09:39 <lalatenduM> davemc, not done till now
12:09:51 <lalatenduM> davemc, sorry abt it
12:10:01 <lalatenduM> lets move it to next week
12:10:10 <lalatenduM> as we time till 3.7 :)
12:10:17 <lalatenduM> s/we/we have/
12:10:21 <davemc> now problem. As a master of the last minute fix myself
12:10:33 <hagarth> agree, we have loads of time for this one :)
12:10:33 <davemc> s/now/no/
12:10:43 <hchiramm_> :)
12:10:50 <davemc> #item JustinClift to create initial GlusterFS Release Checklist page on the wiki
12:10:59 <davemc> didn't see Justin join
12:11:10 <davemc> will ping him later
12:11:32 <davemc> #item davemc to add pointer to wiki from site
12:11:46 <hagarth> ok
12:11:59 <hchiramm_> davemc, as Debloper is here, can we talk abt gluster website revamp ?
12:12:06 <davemc> discussed the web site at length last week
12:12:18 <davemc> with tigert
12:12:30 * Debloper will check the logs
12:12:37 <davemc> I think first step is to just fix things to work
12:12:50 <davemc> and get stuff up to date
12:13:01 <Debloper> davemc: agreed on the important+urgent fixes.
12:13:16 <davemc> longer term is to revamp it and I'd like input
12:13:30 <Debloper> in parallel, we should mobilize working on a full fledged revamp. what's the planned timeline for that?
12:13:56 <davemc> there is a front page revamp at  http://glustermm-tigert.rhcloud.com/
12:14:18 <Debloper> checking that out, I have my feedback. should send a mail, or discuss here/now?
12:14:22 <davemc> we have two OSAS resources to use for the next few months
12:14:32 <Debloper> (now won't be complete/concise)
12:14:43 <davemc> either works.
12:14:53 <Debloper> mail it is, then.
12:15:31 <davemc> tigert will help with design, and a new person is willing to help clean up/ clear out docmentation
12:16:01 <hagarth> davemc: awesome
12:16:09 <hchiramm_> awesome!!
12:16:32 <davemc> we, as community, just need to help get what we want. else we get what they wnt
12:16:33 <Debloper> davemc: I'm focusing on the complete revamp then (or any help/input I can offer on that). the urgent fixes are in good hands, it looks like.
12:16:56 <davemc> if I've misse durgent stuff, please let me know.
12:16:59 <hagarth> I want to get rid of the "Write Once, Read anywhere" theme from the landing page :D
12:17:04 <hchiramm_> +1
12:17:08 <davemc> +1
12:17:18 <hchiramm_> some other caption has to be there :)
12:17:36 <lalatenduM> hagarth, +1 , yes plz
12:17:43 <davemc> a short welcome, or statement of what it is
12:17:58 <hagarth> davemc: +1
12:18:03 <davemc> again, suggestions welcome
12:18:39 <davemc> #action Debloper to send email on web revamp
12:18:39 <hchiramm_> davemc, do we need to pass our thoughts via gluster-infra mailing list ?
12:19:01 <lalatenduM> hchiramm, davemc for caption we can use gluster-users ML
12:19:05 <Debloper> hchiramm_: should be ideal scenario.
12:19:10 <davemc> personal opinion, I'd rather build a target and then pass through infra
12:19:13 <davemc> but that's me
12:19:21 <Debloper> lalatenduM++
12:20:17 <davemc> #action davemc to run a "what should it say?" through users ML
12:20:30 <Debloper> davemc: that leaves a space for non-transparency - in long run.
12:20:33 <hchiramm_> "we, as community, just need to help get what we want. else we get what they wnt" -> where this will go ?
12:20:48 <hchiramm_> is it gluster-infra or users list ?
12:20:58 <Debloper> users
12:21:02 <davemc> caption to users list, revamp to infra
12:21:09 <Debloper> davemc++
12:21:15 <lalatenduM> davemc, +1
12:21:22 <hchiramm_> sounds good
12:21:23 <hchiramm_> +1
12:21:35 <hagarth> davemc: +1
12:21:56 <davemc> okay, we'll revisit this via email, early and often
12:22:16 <davemc> moving to next item
12:22:26 <davemc> #item 3.6
12:22:45 <davemc> any thing to bring up?
12:22:45 <hagarth> few patches were merged over the last week
12:22:54 <hagarth> aiming to have 3.6.2 sometime next week
12:23:04 <davemc> "early and often"
12:23:18 <hagarth> yes, and possibly with full rdma support :)
12:23:24 <lalatenduM> hagarth, http://review.gluster.org/#/c/8988/ is in line to get merged
12:23:30 <davemc> way cool
12:23:38 <hagarth> lalatenduM: yes, will get that in
12:23:40 <lalatenduM> hagarth, should I add the bug to the 3.6.2 tracker
12:23:49 <hagarth> lalatenduM: that would be helpful
12:23:55 <lalatenduM> hagarth, will do
12:24:39 <davemc> any other 3.6 stuff?
12:25:00 <davemc> k, moving on
12:25:18 <davemc> #Item 3.5
12:25:30 <davemc> I got the announcement out yesterday
12:25:41 <davemc> on every channel I could think of
12:26:14 <lalatenduM> davemc++
12:26:23 <hagarth> davemc: awesome, did we get it out on g+ too?
12:26:32 <davemc> sorry for the delay, last week was rather a mess
12:26:37 <davemc> hagarth, yes
12:26:53 <hagarth> davemc: fantastic, we've not been very active there lately.
12:26:58 <davemc> irc, twitter, FB, lN, g+
12:27:08 <davemc> EMAIL
12:27:32 <lalatenduM> blogs
12:27:32 <davemc> if I missed something, let me know
12:27:40 <davemc> I'll add it to the list
12:27:46 <hagarth> that completes it I think
12:27:56 <davemc> lalatenduM, thanks, yeah ther etoo
12:28:02 <lalatenduM> yup
12:28:28 <davemc> so, anything on 3.5  we need to cover?
12:28:50 <davemc> on to 3.4
12:28:55 <davemc> #item 3.4
12:29:03 <davemc> see above announce scenario
12:29:11 <davemc> for 3.4.6
12:29:24 <hagarth> we probably need new trackers for 3.4.7 and 3.5.4
12:29:48 <hchiramm_> Query: how long do we support 3.4 futures? :)
12:30:04 <davemc> one question, how long do we support the 3.4 family? was asked by red hat strage mgmt team last week
12:30:08 <hchiramm_> kkeithley, ^^
12:30:16 <hagarth> hchiramm_: till we stabilize 3.6.0
12:30:19 <davemc> s/strage/storage/
12:30:22 <hagarth> s/3.6.0/3.6/
12:30:36 <hagarth> davemc: longer than what red hat storage intends doing ;)
12:30:40 <ndevos> there is a 3.5.4 tracker already :)
12:30:41 <kkeithley> we support current - 2, right? So 3.4.x until 3.7
12:30:43 <davemc> whew, that was my answer
12:30:47 <hagarth> ndevos++
12:30:58 <hagarth> darn no karma bot here
12:31:45 <davemc> so 3.4 lies till 3.7 release
12:32:00 <davemc> works for me. but I'm not doing the hard stuff
12:32:11 <kkeithley> lies? lives?
12:32:16 <lalatenduM> hagarth++
12:32:21 <davemc> yes lives
12:32:35 <davemc> keyboard is giving me fits today
12:32:45 <hchiramm_> still users report issues on v3.2 and v3.3
12:32:48 <davemc> anything more on 3.4?
12:33:01 <hagarth> hchiramm_: we need to encourage them to upgrade me thinks
12:33:09 <hchiramm_> may be we need an announcement about these releases and its EOL
12:33:11 <lalatenduM> BUt we shoudl reduce the frequency of builds in 3.4.X
12:33:12 <hchiramm_> hagarth, true
12:33:22 <hchiramm_> lalatenduM, +1
12:33:25 <hagarth> lalatenduM: +1
12:33:27 <davemc> hchiramm, agreed
12:33:33 <lalatenduM> kkeithley, ^^
12:33:38 <kkeithley> yes
12:33:56 <lalatenduM> ndevos, ^^ :)
12:34:20 <kkeithley> for 3.4.7 I only have memory leak, libgfapi symbol versions, and I think there is one more BZ open
12:34:28 <kkeithley> at least in the tracker
12:35:03 <davemc> sounds good
12:35:14 <davemc> any more 3.4?
12:35:27 <davemc> #item gluster.next
12:35:46 <davemc> #item      jdarcy to convene a meeting to discuss improvements in small file performance
12:36:14 <hagarth> not sure if Jeff is around today but we need this
12:36:29 <hagarth> as we plan to address a bunch of small file performance problems in 3.7
12:37:01 <davemc> we need to ping Jeff
12:37:35 <davemc> moving on
12:37:37 <hchiramm_> #action davemc  Announcement about GlusterFS releases and its EOL :)
12:38:19 <davemc> #item planning pages
12:38:34 <davemc> thanks for getting these up
12:38:54 <hagarth> yeah, we expect to get more there
12:39:42 <davemc> much easier to promote community involvement when we can point at them
12:39:51 <jdarcy> Sorry about that.  Had to get my daughter's breakfast.
12:40:03 <davemc> no problem jdarcy
12:40:28 <jdarcy> Everybody: please read/comment on the GlusterFS 4.0 feature pages - http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Planning40
12:40:34 <davemc> I've got three kittns who think they should get fed now, because, hey, I'm up
12:41:08 <ndevos> davemc: can I have one too?
12:41:08 <davemc> jdarcy, +1
12:41:40 <jdarcy> Lots of exciting stuff, where "exciting" is pretty close to "scary"
12:42:09 <davemc> ready to move to "other"?
12:42:18 <jdarcy> +1
12:42:21 <davemc> #item other agenda
12:42:45 <davemc> #item gluster into ubuntu issue?
12:42:52 <hagarth> davemc: yes, please
12:43:12 <davemc> as an aside, ubuntu is the top distro from the survey
12:43:41 <ndevos> we need this one merged: http://review.gluster.org/8064
12:44:15 <ndevos> backports are waiting for that... blocking inclusion in Ubuntu proper
12:44:22 <lalatenduM> ndevos, +1
12:44:33 <kkeithley> indeed
12:44:48 <lalatenduM> kkeithley, you have some new comments thr by kshlm
12:44:54 <jdarcy> Where are the full survey results?
12:44:58 <kkeithley> oh, okay
12:45:18 <hagarth> davemc: I think we need to open a conversation with Ubuntu folks to make their criterion for package acceptance public
12:45:23 <davemc> jdarcy, I'll be finalizing them and setting up a separate meeting
12:45:34 <hagarth> I honestly feel that we are being snubbed
12:45:45 <kkeithley> in the BZ I think, and in the nightly static analyses
12:46:06 <davemc> hagarth, will try to figure that out.
12:46:07 <kkeithley> http://download.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/static-analysis/
12:47:12 <hchiramm_> kkeithley, does this ^^^ qualify for some space in gluster.org ?
12:47:51 <davemc> I think it deserves some level of exposure
12:47:57 <hchiramm_> indeed
12:48:33 <lalatenduM> hchiramm, it is present somewhere in wiki
12:48:34 <hchiramm_> may be an easy bug fix section or something similar ?
12:49:01 <lalatenduM> http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Fixing_Issues_Reported_By_Tools_For_Static_Code_Analysis
12:49:14 <hchiramm_> lalatenduM, yep .. but if we can attract new comers who land in gluster.org ,  its awesome..
12:49:46 <lalatenduM> hchiramm, agree
12:50:10 <jdarcy> BTW, did anyone else see that Suse is going to package their own version of Ceph?
12:50:11 <davemc> might be useful to consider "attracting newcomers" during revamp of site
12:50:19 <davemc> yep
12:50:22 <hchiramm_> davemc, +3
12:50:30 <davemc> jdarcy, yep
12:50:45 <lalatenduM> jdarcy, ohh , any link for details news
12:50:56 <kkeithley> package their own version, as in Supported Product?
12:51:20 <jdarcy> lalatenduM: Thin on detail, but http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/19/susecon_suse_storage_announcement/
12:51:39 <lalatenduM> jdarcy, yup just got it , thanks
12:51:45 <davemc> SUSE Cloud 4, the newest version of SUSE's OpenStack distribution for building Infrastructure-as-a-Service private clouds, is now available. SUSE Cloud 4 is based on the latest OpenStack release (Icehouse) and features full support for the Ceph distributed storage system. Along with Ceph support, the latest SUSE Cloud platform includes advanced VMware capabilities and enhanced scalability, automation and availability features
12:51:45 <davemc> to ease enterprise adoption of OpenStack and help organizations maximize current IT investments.
12:52:06 <davemc> https://www.suse.com/company/press/2014/8/suse-cloud-4-now-available-featuring-ceph-distributed-storage.html
12:52:07 <jdarcy> Are we in Suse?
12:52:09 <kkeithley> speaking of which, anyone have a contact at SuSE that can tell me why my requests for a SLES12 eval license have not had a response? (They gave me one for SLES11sp3.)
12:52:41 <kkeithley> we have OpenSuSE and SLES rpms on d.g.o
12:52:49 <davemc> kkeithley, not sure my contacts are still there, but can check
12:53:09 <hagarth> jdarcy: Suse has been using Ceph for a while
12:53:18 <kkeithley> even an unambiguous "no" would be preferable to the dead air I've been getting
12:53:18 <hagarth> jdarcy: don't think we are in Suse
12:53:32 <davemc> jdarcy, I can't find any Gluster stuff from suse
12:53:51 <hagarth> Being in Suse will help us get adoption in Europe
12:54:23 <davemc> unlike Ceph-openstack love affair, we don't have a market pull to be included
12:54:40 <hagarth> davemc: we are the third most sought after cinder driver in OpenStack ;)
12:54:48 <davemc> <grin>
12:55:14 <davemc> glusterFS is 3rd most popular block storage for openstack,
12:55:16 <jdarcy> Is that like being the third most sought after candidate for president?
12:55:25 * lalatenduM waiting for a truth happens moment for GlusterFS :)
12:55:26 <davemc> note the "block"
12:56:06 <hagarth> I think our adoption percentage has increased from the last OpenStack summit survey
12:56:16 <davemc> I think we're drifting here
12:56:23 <davemc> 4 minutes to go
12:56:57 <jdarcy> I'm all out of random digressions.
12:56:59 <davemc> my last thing is just to mention we still would like to get some folks to talk about gluster
12:57:06 <davemc> on a short video
12:57:15 <davemc> on topic of your choice
12:57:26 <davemc> or I start drafting people.
12:57:47 <hagarth> davemc: send out a note on devel?
12:57:58 <davemc> actually, I think I may hit up the users and devel ML for this as well
12:58:03 <hagarth> davemc: cool
12:58:16 <davemc> anything else to cover?
12:58:32 <davemc> if not, lets end 2 minutes early
12:58:40 <davemc> GOING
12:58:44 <davemc> going
12:58:47 <davemc> and
12:58:51 <davemc> #endmeeting