12:01:04 <rafi> #startmeeting
12:01:04 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Jul 28 12:01:04 2015 UTC.  The chair is rafi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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12:01:15 <rafi> #info Agenda https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bug-triage
12:01:22 <rafi> #topic roll call
12:01:32 * rafi is present
12:03:44 <rafi> no one else :(
12:03:59 <rafi> moving into next topic
12:04:06 <rafi> #topic Status of last weeks action items
12:04:30 <rafi> there is no action items pending, so moving to next topic
12:04:44 <rafi> #topic group triage
12:04:53 <rafi> #info 17 new bugs that have not been triaged yet : http://goo.gl/WuDQun
12:05:14 * rafi locks everything ;)
12:11:26 * kdhananjay is here too ;)
12:11:45 * pranithk is here
12:11:51 <pranithk> rafi: what is the URL?
12:12:17 <rafi> http://goo.gl/WuDQun
12:12:26 <pranithk> rafi: thanks
12:12:34 <rafi> pranithk: welcome to the party
12:12:47 <kdhananjay> rafi: So who locks what bugs now?
12:13:18 <kdhananjay> rafi: There seem to be 15 bugs on the list.
12:13:27 * atinm arrives
12:13:30 * pranithk locks 1245380
12:13:42 <rafi> kdhananjay: lock one which you can triage
12:13:49 <kdhananjay> rafi: Ok.
12:13:58 * atinm locks 1246432
12:14:07 <rafi> kdhananjay: to avoid the mid-air collision ;)
12:14:13 <kdhananjay> rafi: Agree!
12:14:55 <rafi> kdhananjay: and refresh the page frequently, that will help to figure out unlocked bug
12:15:05 <rafi> *locked
12:15:19 * rafi locks 1245331
12:15:35 <kdhananjay> rafi: I was just about to lock that too!
12:15:44 <atinm> good to see you kdhananjay :)
12:15:50 <kdhananjay> atinm: :)
12:16:08 * atinm locks 1246024
12:16:12 <rafi> kdhananjay: don't worry , you take this, I will take another one
12:16:13 * kdhananjay locks 1245667
12:16:24 * rafi unlocks 1245331
12:16:25 <kdhananjay> rafi: np. i picked another one.
12:16:35 <rafi> kdhananjay: :)
12:16:46 * rafi again lock 1245331
12:19:26 * rafi locks 1246203
12:19:37 * kdhananjay locks 1246024
12:19:42 <kdhananjay> oops ignore that.
12:20:06 * kdhananjay locks 1246782
12:20:50 * atinm locks 1246544
12:21:33 * rafi locks 1246229
12:24:33 * pranithk locks 1246794
12:24:39 * atinm locks 1245966
12:25:13 * rafi locks 1245775
12:26:28 <kdhananjay> atinm: One quick question.
12:26:45 <kdhananjay> atinm: 1247274 does not need 'Triaged' keyword to be set?
12:27:07 <kdhananjay> atinm: I see that you have asked the user for logs.
12:27:50 <atinm> kdhananjay, I intentionally didn't set the triaged keyword as the information is incomplete
12:28:02 <atinm> kdhananjay, we will keep that open till the reporter gets back
12:28:44 <kdhananjay> atinm: OK. So if the user gets back with the information, we debug it further with 'Triaged' flag added and bug moved to assigned etc. But what happens if he/she does not?
12:29:21 <atinm> kdhananjay, we will keep that bug open for say 3-4 weeks and close it saying insufficient information
12:29:24 <atinm> kdhananjay, :)
12:29:32 <kdhananjay> atinm: Got it. :)
12:29:41 * atinm locks 1246794
12:29:53 <atinm> ahh!!! pranithk has already locked it
12:31:02 <pranithk> atinm: yes, ashiq agreed to look into it
12:31:20 * pranithk locks 1245425
12:34:35 <kdhananjay> rafi: So looks like all bugs on the list have been triaged. Now what?
12:35:14 <rafi> kdhananjay: waiting finish the last bug
12:35:27 <kdhananjay> rafi: Ok.
12:36:02 <rafi> kdhananjay: once pranithk completed it, we will move to the next topic from the agenda list
12:36:14 <kdhananjay> rafi: OK.
12:36:48 <rafi> #info #info Agenda https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bug-triage
12:39:40 <rafi> we are done with group triage
12:39:53 <rafi> moving into next topic
12:39:59 <rafi> #open floor
12:40:06 <rafi> #topic open floor
12:41:25 <rafi> pranithk: kdhananjay ; atinm :please bring your own topic here
12:41:55 <kdhananjay> rafi: Well, nothing much, really. :P
12:42:03 <atinm> so who all are working on automating the bug workflow :)
12:42:26 <atinm> I really want it to see in effect, but unfortunately don't find time to contribute there :(
12:42:45 <rafi> atinm: pranithk is our leader , ndevos and me is intrested too
12:43:03 <atinm> rafi, awesome, so its in right hands :)
12:43:09 <pranithk> atinm: we are waiting for ndevos to come to Bangalore...
12:43:22 <pranithk> atinm: we are going to close on it by end of August. At least that is the plan
12:43:22 <rafi> planning to send one more invite to gluster-devel
12:45:16 <rafi> #action rafi need to send a final reminder for automated bug workflow
12:45:46 <rafi> kdhananjay: do you have any thing to say about improving the meeting ;)
12:46:37 <kdhananjay> rafi: Ok the only trouble I had was to look at two places before locking a bug: 1) the URL provided, and 2) keep a constant watch on the channel to see who locks what.
12:49:13 <rafi> kdhananjay: OK, we need to find better locking mechanism, right :)
12:49:21 <kdhananjay> rafi: Was wondering if locking can be done by moving this list to etherpad or something.
12:49:33 <kdhananjay> rafi: And each lockee strikes out his choice.
12:49:38 <kdhananjay> his/her
12:49:50 <kdhananjay> ;)
12:50:15 <kdhananjay> rafi: That way, I only have one place to look at: the etherpad.
12:50:32 <rafi> kdhananjay: so, just before starting the bug triage meeting, make a list of bugs that need to be triaged in a etherpad
12:50:37 <rafi> kdhananjay: right ?
12:50:40 <kdhananjay> rafi: Not saying that approach is free of race conditions, but probably works better,
12:50:50 <kdhananjay> rafi: Yeah.
12:51:02 <atinm> kdhananjay, you are adding burden on the host ;)
12:52:02 <kdhananjay> rafi: So how is this list made?
12:52:20 <kdhananjay> rafi: are these 15 bugs the only ones that needed triage in whole of glusterfs?
12:52:41 <rafi> kdhananjay: it is bugzilla query,
12:52:56 <rafi> kdhananjay: it will pick bugs that filed from past 4 week
12:53:09 <rafi> and not having triaged keyword
12:53:22 <kdhananjay> rafi: Ah! Ok.
12:53:29 <rafi> and the status should be in NEW
12:53:48 <rafi> kdhananjay: I think it is good suggetion
12:54:14 <kdhananjay> atinm: rafi: One problem with the approach i suggested is that we would miss out on bugs that are filed _while_ the triage is in progress.
12:54:27 <rafi> kdhananjay: I will put this as an action item and we will discuss this idea on next meeting
12:54:39 <rafi> kdhananjay: that fine,
12:54:44 <kdhananjay> rafi: atinm But maybe it will be picked up in the following week.
12:55:12 <rafi> kdhananjay: yes, he failed to acquire a lock
12:55:15 <rafi> ;)
12:55:25 <kdhananjay> rafi: hehe :)
12:56:08 <rafi> #info kdhananjay suggested an etherpad based locking system
12:56:46 <rafi> #action need to discuss about a new locking mechanism
12:57:03 <rafi> kdhananjay: i have added this as action item for the next meeting
12:57:10 <kdhananjay> rafi: Sure.
12:57:34 <rafi> kdhananjay: let's discuss this with others also
12:57:39 <kdhananjay> rafi: Yep.
12:57:56 <rafi> guys, any thing more ?
12:58:02 <kdhananjay> rafi: Nothing from my end.
12:58:11 <kdhananjay> pranithk: ^^
12:58:36 <rafi> great , I'm ending the meeting. Thanks to everyone who attended!
12:58:53 <rafi> see you on next Tuesday
12:59:00 <rafi> #endmeeting